unfortunatly these subs are massive and i can't really put them any where else. Im waiting for my roll of speaker wire to come in, as my centre channel isn't hooked up yet, I ran ARC today for all the other channels, they didn't turn out too bad, the sub didn't need to correct too much, I also have a mini dsp, i have the subs boosted a little bit from 17hz to about 25-30hz. I need to learn how to use the mini dsp some more and set it up with a mic to see if i can get the subs to sound better.