Another Disgrace from Gestapo USA.

[Trell]

Let's just say, the VOTERS elected Trump or for a Dictatorship.

I don't think that most Trump voters had the current outcome in mind, that is, they believed "those others" would be targetted. But oh boy, aren’t the MAGA bitches inhabitants of West Virginia whining concerned when they found out that elections actually have consequences.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Let's just say, the VOTERS elected Trump or for a Dictatorship.

Yes, thanks.

 

[Mr._Clark]

I don't think that most Trump voters had the current outcome in mind, that is, they believed "those others" would be targetted. But oh boy, aren’t the MAGA bitches inhabitants of West Virginia whining concerned when they found out that elections actually have consequences.

Based on the polls I've seen, most Trump voters seem to be okay with Trump.

>>>. . . . some polls show very few Trump voters actually feel regret over their vote last time. A particularly viral recent cable news clip is illustrative: CNN's Harry Enten recently used a poll conducted by the University of Massachusetts-Amherst in April to show that "very few” Trump voters “regret what they did back in 2024." In that poll, when asked directly if they regretted their vote, just 4% of self-described Trump voters say they would have voted for someone else or not at all, with 93% saying they feel confident about their vote.<<<

Do any Trump voters regret their choice?

It's a hard question to answer. Our poll suggests many do.

www.gelliottmorris.com

I can't help but wonder if there's some cognitive dissonance at play in the answers to the poll questions. It seems to me that if a person was "all in" on Trump emotionally, it would be difficult to admit, even to a person conducting a poll, that they made a dumb choice.

My (admittedly amateur) impression of Trump's appeal is that it's based largely on negativity, not a positive vision. I would guess that almost everyone disliked at least a couple things about the government prior to the election. Trump attacked almost everything, and it appears to me that a reasonably high percentage of voters agreed on at least a couple items. Provided the attacks are not too specific, the "misses" won't turn off too many voters that agreed on a couple issues ("hits"). My impression is that a lot of voters saw what they wanted in Trump based on a few "hits" and they didn't take him seriously when said he would enact crushing tariffs, etc. as solutions.

Having said that, I still find it odd that 93% of Trump voters say they feel confident about their vote.

 

[lovinthehd]

Trump only got a plurality of the votes cast for US President, and not a majority.

Yeah I wasn't accurately using the term, meant more a majority of the democrat/republican votes as other candidates just aren't in the running really. The 1.9% cast for other candidates mean little unfortunately.

 

[trochetier]

This seems to confirm my suspicions:

>>>Stephen Miller, the main architect of Mr. Trump’s domestic agenda, had a message for other advisers inside the presidential transition offices in West Palm Beach, Fla.: Be bold. Do not worry about potential litigation, especially when drafting Mr. Trump’s immigration actions. . . .

Mr. Miller had long been interested in the Alien Enemies Act, a law passed in 1798 that allows the U.S. government to swiftly deport citizens of an invading nation. . . .He saw it as a powerful weapon to apply to immigration enforcement.

The law “allows you to instantaneously remove any noncitizen foreigner from an invading country, aged 14 or older,” Mr. Miller told the right-wing podcaster Charlie Kirk in a September 2023 interview, adding: “That allows you to suspend the due process that normally applies to a removal proceeding.”<<< (emphasis added)

Behind Trump’s Deal to Deport Venezuelans to El Salvador’s Most Feared Prison

New details deepen questions about the deportations, showing that El Salvador’s president pressed for assurances that the migrants were really members of the Tren de Aragua gang.

www.nytimes.com

Mr Miller: Please read the United States Constitution, including the 5th amendment.

It's mind-boggling that Trump is apparently relying on legal advice from someone with no knowledge of the law.

In terms of the MS-13 gang members, this provides some insight:

>>>Mr. Bukele had his own request: a list of MS-13 leaders that he wanted released from U.S. custody and sent to El Salvador, where he said they could be interrogated by his security officers. . . .

“What Bukele is desperate for is to get these guys back in El Salvador before they talk in U.S. court,” said Douglas Farah, an El Salvador expert who between 2018 and 2022 collaborated with the Justice Department “Vulcan” task force, which targeted MS-13, as a U.S. military contractor.<<< (emphasis added)

I strongly suspect the administration invoked the state secrets doctrine in an effort to keep embarrassing facts hidden, not for legitimate reasons related to national security. It smells like desperation born from the realization that "Oh sh*t, we F'd up, now what?!?"

Perhaps Bukele has other reasons for the MS13 leaders - https://www.democracynow.org/2025/5/14/nayib_bukele_journalism_crackdown_el_faro

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yeah I wasn't accurately using the term, meant more a majority of the democrat/republican votes as other candidates just aren't in the running really. The 1.9% cast for other candidates mean little unfortunately.

Well, if they all voted for democrats, Trump would be in jail now for his felony convictions.

 

[lovinthehd]

Well, if they all voted for democrats, Trump would be in jail now for his felony convictions.

Yeah but they didn't. Our voting population is weak.

 

[lovinthehd]

Well, if they all voted for democrats, Trump would be in jail now for his felony convictions.

But they voted for other than democrats....for our miniscule independent/green/etc entities.

 

[lovinthehd]

Well, if they all voted for democrats, Trump would be in jail now for his felony convictions.

The presidential election doesn't mean that....he has the support of both houses as well as tweakery from the shitty SCOTUS

 

[Mr._Clark]

Interesting. Dropping charges against an alleged MS-13 leader certainly looks suspicious:

>>>As part of the deportation flights of alleged terrorists at the center of a legal and political storm, the US quietly dropped charges against a key alleged MS-13 leader and returned him to the pro-Trump leader of El Salvador.

César Humberto López-Larios, an alleged top leader of the MS-13 gang who US investigators believe has information that could implicate top Salvadoran government officials in possibly corrupt deals with the violent gang, was deported on one of the controversial flights, according to current and former US officials and court documents. . . .

But bringing MS-13 leaders to face charges in the US has been a top priority for the Justice Department, and the transfer is a major loss of potential intelligence for investigators who helped track down López-Larios for his arrest in Mexico last year, current and former officials say.<<< (emphasis added)

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/24/politics/ms-13-leader-deported-el-salvador-boasberg-order/index.html

It could explain why the administration has invoked the state secrets doctrine.

>>>The Justice Department said in a court filing Monday that it was exercising what's commonly called the "state secrets privilege" in the case because sharing the information would harm diplomatic relations and national security.<<<

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/nx-s1-5339507/what-is-state-secrets-privilege-trump-administration

Invoking the state secrets doctrine in this situation struck me as being odd. There really shouldn't be any need for it if the "deal" with El Salvador is above board.

It might also explain why the administration decided to invoke the Alien Enemies Act and get them out of the country quick without any court hearings.

This is highly speculative on my part, but I can't help but wonder if there was a dirty deal (done dirt cheap) to get the prisoners out of the U.S. so they couldn't testify in court, which might have been damaging in some way.

I'm curious what the h*ll is actually going on.

It looks like this issue is getting more news coverage.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5660932-democrats-rubio-ms-13-el-salvador-deportation/

From a prior interview:

>>>But Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele also wanted something else - the return of nine MS-13 gang leaders in U.S. custody. Secretary of State Marco Rubio agreed, even though some of these gang members were informants under the protection of the Justice Department. Now, this is according to a new investigation from The Washington Post.<<<

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/21/nx-s1-5580555/why-the-state-department-handed-u-s-informants-over-to-el-salvador

It will be interesting to see if more information comes out.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Boy, what a mess. Wonder why this is happening. Is there $$$$ involved? How much? I guess justice is very selective.

 

[Teetertotter?]

Nothing new with Trump, Staff, Cabinet, and Mega in Congress. They just don't care for the well being of Americans, as a whole. The GOP as a whole, are non sympathetic/non caring and hope they don't start WWIII. The KING and his band are in control..........sadly. Perhaps there is some hope, mid terms 2026, with replacing both house with Democrat majority. Perhaps there is some hope.