Another Damn Hurricane

majorloser

majorloser

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Can you believe it? Another damn hurricane headed to Florida!:mad:

It's bad enough the insurance companies started cancelling policies this year, now a little more salt in the wounds.:mad: :mad: :mad:

THAT'S IT, I'VE HAD ENOUGH! I'M MOVING TO OREGON WITH rjbudz!!!!!!!
I'll take a volcano over this crap anyday.

Oh, and by the way, we ran out of names for hurricanes. The next storm will be named Alpha. NOAA will switch to the Greek alphabet till next year.
 
racquetman

racquetman

Audioholic Chief
Michigan isn't bad if you don't mind a little snow and a lot of weather variation from day to day :)

You couldn't pay me to live in Florida.
 
Rock&Roll Ninja

Rock&Roll Ninja

Audioholic Field Marshall
Snow sucks but I'd still rather live here in NY state.

NY: Hurricane free since inception.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
majorloser said:
Can you believe it? Another damn hurricane headed to Florida!:mad:

It's bad enough the insurance companies started cancelling policies this year, now a little more salt in the wounds.:mad: :mad: :mad:

THAT'S IT, I'VE HAD ENOUGH! I'M MOVING TO OREGON WITH rjbudz!!!!!!!
I'll take a volcano over this crap anyday.

Oh, and by the way, we ran out of names for hurricanes. The next storm will be named Alpha. NOAA will switch to the Greek alphabet till next year.
We have a warm and safe spot under our magnicent Sequoia (tree) in the backyard, Major.

Strap it down buddy. This one is gaining some beefy winds.
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
Ouch

I was in Miami for Rita and got my first taste of a hurricane for a California boy. But don't move out here as there are already too many people enjoying the best weather on the planet. Besides the earthquakes will scare the crap out of ya. :eek:
 
Tom Andry

Tom Andry

Speaker of the House
Duffinator said:
I was in Miami for Rita and got my first taste of a hurricane for a California boy. But don't move out here as there are already too many people enjoying the best weather on the planet. Besides the earthquakes will scare the crap out of ya. :eek:
I'll take earthquakes over hurricanes any day. There is really not much you can do to prepare for an earthquake and by the time you realize it's happening, it's usually over (if you notice it at all). All this tracking and worrying, and agonizing over where Hurricane SlapYouSilly is going to land is maddening.
 

Buckle-meister

Audioholic Field Marshall
alandamp said:
Michigan isn't bad if you don't mind a little snow and a lot of weather variation from day to day :) .
Scotland isn't bad if you don't mind a lot of snow and a lot of weather variation from day to day :D

Regards
 
Duffinator

Duffinator

Audioholic Field Marshall
Buckle-meister said:
Scotland isn't bad if you don't mind a lot of snow and a lot of weather variation from day to day :D

Regards
Does Scotland get that much snow? I thought it just rained EVERYDAY. ;)

Earthquakes are fun, for me at least. But it really scares some people. That's what's nice about them, they happen and then you just pick up the pieces. I was in a tornado warning once, the hotel told me to get into the bath tub and pull the mattress over me. :rolleyes: No thanks, I'll stick with earthquakes.

Seriously, I hope that hurricane drops to a cat 1 or lower before it hits any land.
 

Buckle-meister

Audioholic Field Marshall
Duffinator said:
Does Scotland get that much snow? I thought it just rained EVERYDAY. ;).
Not as much as it used to (snow, that is).

There's a saying about Shetland (though no Shetlander would ever thank me for referring to them as Scottish) that it's weather consists of "nine months of winter and three months of bad weather".

I always rather liked that! :)

Regards
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
RJB said:
Long live the Pacific Northwest & "Cascadia"....
Oh my...you wouldn't be referring to the Cascadia Subduction Zone, would you? :eek: :eek: :eek:

A 9.0 is expected to occur within the next 50 years in this zone. It's where the North American, Pacific, and Juan de Fuca plates intersect. Up to a 70 foot tsunami is expected to result. This site is 150 miles due west of me on the central Oregon coast.

But the news is good. We're at 150' elevation. So...if the ground under us doesn't liquify...which it might...we're high and dry and own ocean-front property! :rolleyes:
 
RJB

RJB

Audioholic
The Cascadia I was referring to is the hypothetical country created by Oregon, Washington state, Idaho, Montana, British Columbia & Alberta.

We here in the general area of the Pacific Northwest seem to have a lot more in common with each other than we do with most of our fellow country men. This usually stems from the fact that our respective "feds" all seem to be eastern types...;)

It's an interesting premise that's been kicking around for quite a few years as far as I know.
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Snow storms and the occasional tornado here. But as we all know, tornados ONLY hit trailer parks, so just make sure you don't live there (no offense to those in a park). Sure the snow sucks, but I can shovel snow. I don't wanna have to shovel my house.
 
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mustang_steve

Senior Audioholic
Yeah, i got my little rubber inflatable boat, oars, and a fully charged nomad zen and plenty of lantern batteries to keep it powered ready to go!

It will be like "cast away", but I'll be talking to a lantern battery named "Axel" :D
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....I've heard it said Global Warming has changed the Jetstreams of the World to promote more tropical storms and it will only get worse in their seasons....anybody hear that?....it may come to where you can't get a home insured on the Gulf Coast....
 
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Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
RJB said:
The Cascadia I was referring to is the hypothetical country created by Oregon, Washington state, Idaho, Montana, British Columbia & Alberta.

We here in the general area of the Pacific Northwest seem to have a lot more in common with each other than we do with most of our fellow country men. This usually stems from the fact that our respective "feds" all seem to be eastern types...;)

It's an interesting premise that's been kicking around for quite a few years as far as I know.
Gotcha! And it's seemingly a genuine fellowship. Wanna secede? I'm sure for it. And when we build the new Cascadia...no politicians are allowed! :)
 
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mustang_steve

Senior Audioholic
I think hurricane insurance will be a thing of the past.

Pretty much insurance is supposed to be a blanket to cover random acidents.

Something as frequent as a hurricane is down here seems to be more of a common occurance, so it should be considered part of the cost of ownership.

...pretty much I have no idea why the heck I moved down here....well job, but in retrospect I should have stayed in california...I was far happier there.
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
mustang_steve said:
I think hurricane insurance will be a thing of the past.

Pretty much insurance is supposed to be a blanket to cover random acidents.

Something as frequent as a hurricane is down here seems to be more of a common occurance, so it should be considered part of the cost of ownership.

...pretty much I have no idea why the heck I moved down here....well job, but in retrospect I should have stayed in california...I was far happier there.
Well, not long ago after hurricane Andrew the insurance companies tried to pull out of Florida and leave us hanging. The state insurance commisioner placed a 10 year moratorium on them. Guess what, it expired a couple of years ago:(

After the latest storms they are talking about pulling out of the entire Gulf region. As it is they added a 2% or 5% "insured value deductible" depending on your policy for wind storm damage. That means we would pay $4,000 or $10,000 for a $200K home of just wind damage deductible on top of your regular deductibles. And of course, EVERYTHING is caused by wind damage during a hurricane.

WELCOME TO FLORIDA - The Sunshine State :mad:
(yes, I've lived here my whole life)
 
Even a moderate rate hike around the country will quickly pile in enough cash to cover the gulf coast - then rates will simply go up in that region. Believe me, the insurance companies will do just fine.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
I've heard it said Global Warming has changed the Jetstreams of the World to promote more tropical storms and it will only get worse in their seasons....anybody hear that?....
There is a lot of scientific data that supports this and a panel of 99 Nobel Prize winner scientists have already submitted papers on Global Warming to the White House. The problem is, our government, as well as other countries politicians are taking an approach of adaptation to Global Warming rather than reducing or combating it through refocusing our energy usage, and using alternative means.

Here is some info to whet your whistle on this topic:


1) National Academy of Sciences 2001 Report, “Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions”, commissioned by President George W. Bush.

Specifically, the report “originated from a White House request to help inform the Administration's ongoing review of U.S. climate change policy. In particular, the written request ( Appendix A) asked for the National Academies' “assistance in identifying the areas in the science of climate change where there are the greatest certainties and uncertainties,” and “views on whether there are any substantive differences between the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] Reports and the IPCC summaries.”

http://books.nap.edu/books/0309075742/html/

2) US EPA website, some great, general information on climate change.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/index.html

3) USGS website, more general information on climate change.

http://geochange.er.usgs.gov/

4) NASA website, more information on climate change.

http://gcmd.gsfc.nasa.gov/

5) NOAA website, even more information on climate change.

http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html

6) US Global Change Research Program

http://www.usgcrp.gov/

7) Senator Bingaman’s climate legislation link:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00149



SEC. 16__. SENSE OF THE SENATE ON CLIMATE CHANGE.

(a) Findings.—Congress finds that—

(1) greenhouse gases accumulating in the atmosphere are causing average temperatures to rise at a rate outside the range of natural variability and are posing a substantial risk of rising sea-levels, altered patterns of atmospheric and oceanic circulation, and increased frequency and severity of floods and droughts;

(2) there is a growing scientific consensus that human activity is a substantial cause of greenhouse gas accumulation in the atmosphere; and

(3) mandatory steps will be required to slow or stop the growth of greenhouse gas emissions into the atmosphere.

(b) Sense of the Senate.—It is the sense of the Senate that Congress should enact a comprehensive and effective national program of mandatory, market-based limits and incentives on emissions of greenhouse gases that slow, stop, and reverse the growth of such emissions at a rate and in a manner that—

(1) will not significantly harm the United States economy; and

(2) will encourage comparable action by other nations that are major trading partners and key contributors to global emissions.



For draft legislative text supplied to us by Bingaman's staff see:

http://www.climatenetwork.org/uscanweb/Bingamandiscdraft.PDF

http://www.climatenetwork.org/uscanweb/Bingamansectionbysection.doc

This one is very revealing. Especially since it shows both the USA and Australia are the largest emitters of greenhouse gases. Click on Emissions “How Much we Emit”. I had no idea about Australia. I figured China but they aren’t even on here! Note how European countries are much lower, likely do to their superior infrastructure of mass transit.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/index.html

Regarding Ocean Currents

http://www.whoi.edu/mr/pr.do?id=5098

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/0627_050627_oceancurrent.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1602579,00.html

add to the list - increased duration and intensity of fires in drought prone areas - its already happening - shifts in species distributions with high elevation, high latitude species vulnerable to extirpations - potential shut down of the marine currents (the oceanic conveyor belt) by warming and loss of oceanic current mixing - catastrophic on a global scale - melting of polar ice caps and high elevation glaciers and associated increases in sea levels potentially affecting 2/3 of the world's population which is coastal - in Oregon economists are projecting $365 million annual losses attributed to global warming related to increased fire events - need I go on?
 

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