Alice In Chains!!!!

[j_garcia]

John, I have that one on CD. I agree in that it is just awesome. Listen to it all the time. Oh btw, good luck to you on your presentation. I assume your presentation has something to do with CAD? Am I right?

Yep, Inventor 2010 just came out a few weeks ago and I have to show it at our local user's group meeting (free). There's an absolute ton of new stuff. I've been playing with the beta for a while, but there's more than an hour of stuff to show, so I have to pare it down to what I think they really will want to see (so they will all buy it ). It is basically a "What's New", since we didn't have a formal launch event this year due to cost reduction.

I have a lot of favorites from Godsmack: I Stand Alone, Serenity, Hollow, Awake, Voodoo, Keep Away, Forgive Me, etc... I have Serenity as my ringtone and one of my tattoos uses the sun from their logo

 

[sploo]

Wow-appreciate you taking the time to write this. Lots of interesting info there. I will check some of your recoomendations out when I have the time. Happy Easter!

You're welcome. Of those, my favourites are Mother Love Bone, the Temple of the Dog album, and Brad (especially the first album 'Shame').

There's also the Sub Pop album, and "The Grunge Years" disc to check out.

I agree, he sounds a lot like Scott Weiland or vice versa... Another duo I have a hard time telling apart are Eddie Vedder & Chris Cornell.

PS: *Hungry Strike by Temple of the dog is a great example... Bill

It's not obvious at first, but listen to the vocals on Hunger Strike - Cornell's always had a slightly stressed edge to his voice (sounds amazing on "Bad Motor Finger"), whereas Vedder's voice (in those days anyway) was a really smooth deep baritone. It's how I always imagined I'd be able to sing. At least it would've been, had it not turned out I sound like an asthmatic cat being throttled an amp cable.

 

[speakerman39]

Yep, Inventor 2010 just came out a few weeks ago and I have to show it at our local user's group meeting (free). There's an absolute ton of new stuff. I've been playing with the beta for a while, but there's more than an hour of stuff to show, so I have to pare it down to what I think they really will want to see (so they will all buy it ). It is basically a "What's New", since we didn't have a formal launch event this year due to cost reduction.

I have a lot of favorites from Godsmack: I Stand Alone, Serenity, Hollow, Awake, Voodoo, Keep Away, Forgive Me, etc... I have Serenity as my ringtone and one of my tattoos uses the sun from their logo

I figured that John. Hope it went well buddy. I also like several of the Godsmack songs you listed. BTW, I suppose Nirvana would also fall under the "grunge" category. I seem to appreciate them more and more every time I hear them. Just wished Kurt Cobain was still among us. Thanks for posting yet again.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

You're welcome. Of those, my favourites are Mother Love Bone, the Temple of the Dog album, and Brad (especially the first album 'Shame').

There's also the Sub Pop album, and "The Grunge Years" disc to check out.




It's not obvious at first, but listen to the vocals on Hunger Strike - Cornell's always had a slightly stressed edge to his voice (sounds amazing on "Bad Motor Finger"), whereas Vedder's voice (in those days anyway) was a really smooth deep baritone. It's how I always imagined I'd be able to sing. At least it would've been, had it not turned out I sound like an asthmatic cat being throttled an amp cable.

That is why I was always in band as opposed to choir. Lets just say my talent for singing never took off.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[j_garcia]

I liked the Temple of the Dog album, but I personally like Soundgarden better. Of the Seattle bands, I would say they are my favorite. Badmotorfinger is on hell of an album.

If you want a good sampler of music of that period, pick up the Singles Soundtrack. Some very good stuff on it, Pearl Jam, Chris, AIC, Mother Love Bone, Screaming Trees, etc... It is heavy on the Seattle bands since that is where it was filmed and more than a few are in the film playing. Vedder and a few of the other guys from PJ actually have a few lines in the film, which was quite funny. There is one of my favorite Cornell tracks on there "Seasons".

There is also a track from another fav of mine, Smashing Pumpkins. Their early stuff is best IMO (Gish, Siamese Dream), but they were good right up to Mellon Collie.

I have the first two albums from Candlebox and I really like them both.

I have Staind's first album, Tormented, which was done prior to them having a lable, and I have to say I think they were probably better before they got signed. This album is so raw and harshly emotional. Wow.

 

[sploo]

I suppose Nirvana would also fall under the "grunge" category.

Just slightly. Many would claim they were the pioneers of grunge (or at least brought it to the mainstream). Obviously, there were many others before them (some listed in this thread), and I'm always amazed by how much Green River sound like Nirvana to me... which is ironic, as there was always needle about Pearl Jam jumping on Nirvana's bandwagon... when two of PJ's members had been in a band that sounded like Nirvana some years before Nirvana

Talking about 'grunge godfathers', I can't believe I forgot Sonic Youth. Their last few albums have been great. Well worth checking out also.

EDIT: I also forgot "Bayleaf", which is a side project album by Stone Gossard!

That is why I was always in band as opposed to choir. Lets just say my talent for singing never took off.

*LOL*. I've usually been relegated to the audience. Yeah. That bad

 

[sploo]

I liked the Temple of the Dog album, but I personally like Soundgarden better. Of the Seattle bands, I would say they are my favorite. Badmotorfinger is on hell of an album.

If you want a good sampler of music of that period, pick up the Singles Soundtrack. Some very good stuff on it, Pearl Jam, Chris, AIC, Mother Love Bone, Screaming Trees, etc... It is heavy on the Seattle bands since that is where it was filmed and more than a few are in the film playing. Vedder and a few of the other guys from PJ actually have a few lines in the film, which was quite funny. There is one of my favorite Cornell tracks on there "Seasons".

There is also a track from another fav of mine, Smashing Pumpkins. Their early stuff is best IMO (Gish, Siamese Dream), but they were good right up to Mellon Collie.

Yea. Badmotorfinger is amazing. Also produced by Terry Date in that year was the Dropped album by Mindfunk I mentioned. Also very bassy.

Never got into the Superunknown album when it was released, but it's now probably my favourite - though Screaming Life/Fopp and Louder Than Love are great too.

The Singles soundtrack is great. I must admit it was my first introduction to the Smashing Pumpkins, who passed me by initially - much to my loss. They're also well worth checking out. Agree though that the early stuff is the best.

 

[speakerman39]

Just slightly. Many would claim they were the pioneers of grunge (or at least brought it to the mainstream). Obviously, there were many others before them (some listed in this thread), and I'm always amazed by how much Green River sound like Nirvana to me... which is ironic, as there was always needle about Pearl Jam jumping on Nirvana's bandwagon... when two of PJ's members had been in a band that sounded like Nirvana some years before Nirvana

Talking about 'grunge godfathers', I can't believe I forgot Sonic Youth. Their last few albums have been great. Well worth checking out also.




*LOL*. I've usually been relegated to the audience. Yeah. That bad

Interesting, I will keep all of this info in mind. I do plan to check out all of the bands mentioned in this thread. It is going to take a while given that I have been so busy with my Mom as of late. Appreciate the info.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[j_garcia]

I do enjoy me some Sonic Youth, though I haven't listened to any of their recent stuff.

I was in band and choir, but I got choir because they didn't have anything else to put me in! I hated that class and it hated me...I can't sing for crap, but I have a deep voice and I can project. Singing is a skill I just don't posess.

I'd also recommend you check out Flyleaf. We saw them open for Staind a few years back and I was blown away by the power with which this tiny chick was able to belt those songs out.

 

[strube]

I have been relatively absent from the forums as of late as I am busier than I want to be with things, but I thought I would just chime in here .

Alice in Chains was at one time my absolute favorite band, and I have lots of lore to share, if I have the time. For now I will give what is essentially an update on them.

Alice in Chains is essentially all back together, minus Layne, of course. I saw them live with Velvet Revolver in October 2007. Their new singer is William Duvall (I believe), who was originally discovered by Jerry Cantrell when he was singing for a band called Comes With The Fall, and he sounds creepily like Layne Staley. They played all classic songs at the time, but are rumored to currently be in the process of recording a new album.

Jerry Cantrell, a very nice and intelligent man whom I met and had a fairly long conversation with a few years back before a solo show in Denver (just about week after Layne died, actually...), was really the brains of the group anyway. If you look in their albums, he wrote most of the lyrics in addition to the music. I mean no disrespect to Layne, but Jerry is the core of the group. You could literally not tell Layne wasn't on stage singing when Duvall was giving it a go. I have mixed feelings about replacing a lead singer either way (ahem, Led Zeppelin and Velvet Revolver, you two best be careful...), but he did a good job.


P.S. That Flyleaf girl's vicious growly scream scares the hell out of me...

 

[speakerman39]

I have been relatively absent from the forums as of late as I am busier than I want to be with things, but I thought I would just chime in here .

Alice in Chains was at one time my absolute favorite band, and I have lots of lore to share, if I have the time. For now I will give what is essentially an update on them.

Alice in Chains is essentially all back together, minus Layne, of course. I saw them live with Velvet Revolver in October 2007. Their new singer is William Duvall (I believe), who was originally discovered by Jerry Cantrell when he was singing for a band called Comes With The Fall, and he sounds creepily like Layne Staley. They played all classic songs at the time, but are rumored to currently be in the process of recording a new album.

Jerry Cantrell, a very nice and intelligent man whom I met and had a fairly long conversation with a few years back before a solo show in Denver (just about week after Layne died, actually...), was really the brains of the group anyway. If you look in their albums, he wrote most of the lyrics in addition to the music. I mean no disrespect to Layne, but Jerry is the core of the group. You could literally not tell Layne wasn't on stage singing when Duvall was giving it a go. I have mixed feelings about replacing a lead singer either way (ahem, Led Zeppelin and Velvet Revolver, you two best be careful...), but he did a good job.


P.S. That Flyleaf girl's vicious growly scream scares the hell out of me...

Wow, thinks for all of this useful info. Both you and John have been a big help. There are several others that have contributed to this thread. Let me be the first to say THANK YOU to each and every one of you!!!! Kudios to you guys!!!!! Lots of bands I need to check out. I now have a better understanding of the "grunge" movement. What more could I ask for?

Cheers,

Phil

 

[just-some-guy]

(didn't read this thread)

i have been listening to "Chains" for years, since they came out, 15 years ago ?

 

[strube]

(didn't read this thread)

i have been listening to "Chains" for years, since they came out, 15 years ago ?

21 years ago actually. I was only 4 years old, so I sure wasn't listening to them then!


Oh yeah, just a quick update from what I said before, AiC have recorded a new album and are currently mixing it and planning on a September release. Cool.

 

[speakerman39]

(didn't read this thread)

i have been listening to "Chains" for years, since they came out, 15 years ago ?

I have too. However, lately I have grown to really appreciate their music more. The same holds true for Nirvana. Alice In Chains is the bomb so to speak imho. Thanks for posting.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

21 years ago actually. I was only 4 years old, so I sure wasn't listening to them then!


Oh yeah, just a quick update from what I said before, AiC have recorded a new album and are currently mixing it and planning on a September release. Cool.

I am curious to see how it turns out for them. Hopefully, the new album will be quite successful. Only time will tell. Thanks once again for all of the info. It is most appreciated.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[Mike19]

I love most of the "grunge" bands. Especially, Pearl Jam and AIC.

But, could someone explain to me what the "grunge" sound is? These bands all sound different to me. I don't see the common thread.

Also, is "grundge" the same as "The Seattle Sound"?

 

[speakerman39]

I love most of the "grunge" bands. Especially, Pearl Jam and AIC.

But, could someone explain to me what the "grunge" sound is? These bands all sound different to me. I don't see the common thread.

Also, is "grundge" the same as "The Seattle Sound"?

One thing I have noticed about the "grunge"movement is that the lyrics seem to have a dark side to it. It is also my understanding that this movement originated in the Seattle area. However, I am by no means an expert nor do I act as one on this forum. In other words, this post is NOT an end all to the "grunge" style.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[jamie2112]

One thing I have noticed about the "grunge"movement is that the lyrics seem to have a dark side to it. It is also my understanding that this movement originated in the Seattle area. However, I am by no means an expert nor do I act as one on this forum. In other words, this post is NOT an end all to the "grunge" style.

Cheers,

Phil

Well most of the guys in those bands had problems with heroin and what not so I can see the dark lyric thing......hi Phil...

 

[speakerman39]

Well most of the guys in those bands had problems with heroin and what not so I can see the dark lyric thing......hi Phil...

Yeah, the addictions are quite obvious. Just wished Stayley was still among us. Really liked how he belted out the lyrics. Just an amazing talent. Hello to you too sir. Hope things are swell your way my friend.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[jamie2112]

That being said: some of the best music in history came from heroin addicted musicians.......I am not EVEN going to attempt to start a list but if ya think about it for a sec I'm sure you will start gettin the picture........