Advice for $4000 5.1 system for Yamaha RX-Z7

[fredk]

If I had to choose a subjective audiophile word for the sound, for me "revealing" is the most apt.

Exactly. These speakers are capable of producing everything that is in a recording. This is a good thing!! Most of those who repeat the bright/harsh mantra have never heard the speakers.

I have been avoiding moving my speakers inch by inch to get the best out of them because it takes so much time. I need to improve my soundtage though.

 

[skalathi]

Think of it like putting red wheels on a red car.

Idk, speakers with a finish exactly matching your flooring may not be as apealing as you think. As long as they are in the same color pallet but slightly lighter/darker or contrasting color pallet, they will be asthetic, yet not look like your flooring is coming up to become speakers.

For absolute SAF go in-wall.

The high gloss cherry that I plan to use is slightly lighter and definitely more glossy than the cherry in the room. But, it still looks good. I ordered a sample from Axiom which I personally verified in the room itself. As you said, a perfect match is not necessary.

The rosewood in the SVS and HSU subs (and the Quad speakers) is A LOT MORE RED than than the wood in the room. Moreover, I don't like the idea of the subwoofer looking much different than all of the other speakers in our system. When I meant a "harmonious whole", I meant the subwoofer and speakers sharing a similar design aesthetic.

Your point about in-wall speakers and SAF is absolutely right. As the room is completely finished, it would be a major undertaking putting in-wall speakers.

Lastly, I think red tires would look bad on any car

 

[agarwalro]

I have been avoiding moving my speakers inch by inch to get the best out of them because it takes so much time. I need to improve my soundtage though.

I was amazed at how much difference the toe in angle made. For me the front soundstage went from being somewhat nebulous (in concept and in listening) to existing. It was almost like an epiphany. For now just play around with that, considerably less back breaking... Once you have the optimal toe in angle figured out, play around with placement in context with this angle, which is considerably more difficult since for every new placement, you have to verify that the toe in angle has not changed. But the result is well worth the time and effort. Made me realise how good the M60s are.

Lastly, I think red tires would look bad on any car

LOL! I had meant wheels, but this is a funny thought.

 

[fredk]

I've played with toe in and it does not make any difference. I think my problem is too many reflections. I live in a concrete box... er, apartment.

 

[agarwalro]

I've played with toe in and it does not make any difference. I think my problem is too many reflections. I live in a concrete box... er, apartment.

That sucks. If your main seat can be at the apex of the equilateral triangle where the speakers are on the points at the base, maybe, the toe in situation can be improved...

 

[fredk]

Done that, nope. My room REALLY sucks.

 

[rcw]

I'm researching a 5.1 system for my mom. After some info supplied on this forum, the Aperion T6 towers (piano black) and matching 6C center look awesome and with free delivery both ways if necessary as you have a 30 day free trial. SVS sub will accompany the system as I'm partial to their customer service and quality stuff. Add some surrounds and I think it will fit into your budget. Good luck.