Aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!

[CraigV]

Bleepin bleepity blankin stupid _____#$%!*bleepity bleep bleep dumb bleepin blankin…..

>deep breath<

For the love of all that’s great and good in this universe, we’re talking about common sense here people!
If the circumstances in your life dictate that you have to move to a foreign country in which the predominant language spoken is different than the language you currently speak - LEARN THE OTHER LANGUAGE!!
No one expects you to become fluent overnight, but for crying out loud, make an effort!!
Expecting to flourish in your new surroundings is dependent on your ability to communicate effectively with the people you encounter on a regular basis. You can NOT expect other people to know 15 different languages including yours! Likewise, I should not have to rely on an interpreter to order my lunch at McDonalds!!

ALSO - when you move to a foreign country you have to be prepared to assimilate to a large degree. Learn the local laws, customs, rules (written and un-written) and accept that you will be expected to follow along. No one is telling you to give up your native language, culture, religious beliefs or your identity - BUT - If you want to get along well with those you will be going to school with, working with, living near, dealing with…get with the program!!
And yes, this means if you come from a country where it is customary to be loud, pushy, rude and self important and you move to an area where the people are more laid back and considerate of each other, don’t cop an attitude when these “new” people don’t react to you the way you want them to.

Now, before anyone starts throwing around the “arrogant American” epithets, I would Tell anyone from this country moving to a foreign country the same thing - Have the respect, decency, responsibility & common sense to learn the language of where you’re moving and the laws, customs…etc. BEFORE going, and count on continually learning once you get there. Otherwise, you’ll move…but you won’t go anywhere

 

[rnatalli]

I can't say I disagree and the country should declare official languages already. However, I do find it funny how Americans will call the French rude because they refuse to speak English to Americans in their country.

 

[Tarub]

 

[adwilk]

El punto bueno, CraigV. Yo no podría concordar más

 

[MatthewB.]

Try living in AZ which borders Mexico. Half our billboards are in Spanish and working in a hospital, I see daily people who come in with emergencies who don't speak a word of English who have lived here for decades and get upset when the doctor or nurse don't speak english and can't understand basic questions. I agree if I move to Mexico, I'm gonna learn the dang language, but there is no excuse for people who have lived here for years not to speak one lick of English. Here in Phoenix, it is a huge contraversy with our local sherriff (Joe Arpaio) who is nationwide for his crackdown on illegals and deporting them. Then the illegals protest (which makes me wonder why the sherriff doesnt just pull up the vans and deport the whole lot. And this is coming from a man who is half Mexican. I find this state odd that the illegals will bleed this state dry (we already have had 3 hospitals close due to illegals not paying their bills) and then demand all these rights when they havent paid one red cent in taxes. I also find it sickening when citizens have to jump through hoops to get "benefits" while illegals get them just for asking.

 

[CraigV]

Try living in AZ which borders Mexico. Half our billboards are in Spanish and working in a hospital, I see daily people who come in with emergencies who don't speak a word of English who have lived here for decades and get upset when the doctor or nurse don't speak english and can't understand basic questions. I agree if I move to Mexico, I'm gonna learn the dang language, but there is no excuse for people who have lived here for years not to speak one lick of English. Here in Phoenix, it is a huge contraversy with our local sherriff (Joe Arpaio) who is nationwide for his crackdown on illegals and deporting them. Then the illegals protest (which makes me wonder why the sherriff doesnt just pull up the vans and deport the whole lot. And this is coming from a man who is half Mexican. I find this state odd that the illegals will bleed this state dry (we already have had 3 hospitals close due to illegals not paying their bills) and then demand all these rights when they havent paid one red cent in taxes. I also find it sickening when citizens have to jump through hoops to get "benefits" while illegals get them just for asking.

Amen brother

 

[Tarub]

Try living in AZ which borders Mexico. Half our billboards are in Spanish and working in a hospital, I see daily people who come in with emergencies who don't speak a word of English who have lived here for decades and get upset when the doctor or nurse don't speak english and can't understand basic questions. I agree if I move to Mexico, I'm gonna learn the dang language, but there is no excuse for people who have lived here for years not to speak one lick of English. Here in Phoenix, it is a huge contraversy with our local sherriff (Joe Arpaio) who is nationwide for his crackdown on illegals and deporting them. Then the illegals protest (which makes me wonder why the sherriff doesnt just pull up the vans and deport the whole lot. And this is coming from a man who is half Mexican. I find this state odd that the illegals will bleed this state dry (we already have had 3 hospitals close due to illegals not paying their bills) and then demand all these rights when they havent paid one red cent in taxes. I also find it sickening when citizens have to jump through hoops to get "benefits" while illegals get them just for asking.

 

[aarond]

Question: what is the official language of the USA?
Answer: none, we don't have one

therefore if i learn some abstract language i could ask for an interpretor at court and get trial postponed until they find and hire one.

 

[highfigh]

Question: what is the official language of the USA?
Answer: none, we don't have one

therefore if i learn some abstract language i could ask for an interpretor at court and get trial postponed until they find and hire one.

Since you want to post this kind of stuff, would you prefer that 'predominant language' be used? He never said 'official language', anyway.

I have to agree- if someone emigrates to another country, they should suck it up and learn to communicate with the locals. The locals shouldn't have to bend over backward to accommodate the immigrants. The illegals are placing a huge burden on this country and they seem to think that tehy should be welcomed with open arms.

 

[CraigV]

Since you want to post this kind of stuff, would you prefer that 'predominant language' be used? He never said 'official language', anyway.

I have to agree- if someone emigrates to another country, they should suck it up and learn to communicate with the locals. The locals shouldn't have to bend over backward to accommodate the immigrants. The illegals are placing a huge burden on this country and they seem to think that tehy should be welcomed with open arms.

I believe he was being facetious

 

[aarond]

we coddle to non English speaking immigrants. you don't need to speak a word of English to be naturalized, the government will get you forms in whatever language you speak, you can have an interpreter in any language you need for government business you are conducting. there is no reason whatsoever for an immigrant to learn English in this country. every congress in the last 25 years has brought up some sort of English as the official language bill and they are always shot down. so if you think that English should be the official language of the USA send an email to your senator.

 

[annunaki]

we coddle to non English speaking immigrants. you don't need to speak a word of English to be naturalized, the government will get you forms in whatever language you speak, you can have an interpreter in any language you need for government business you are conducting. there is no reason whatsoever for an immigrant to learn English in this country. every congress in the last 25 years has brought up some sort of English as the official language bill and they are always shot down. so if you think that English should be the official language of the USA send an email to your senator.

A lot of good that does when they rely on them (illegal immigrants) to keep getting re-elected year after year. They help to dumb down the population making them easier to control.

If one does not think there is voter fraud going on with illegals one prefers living in bliss.

 

[highfigh]

I believe he was being facetious

And that would have come across in what way?

 

[highfigh]

we coddle to non English speaking immigrants. you don't need to speak a word of English to be naturalized, the government will get you forms in whatever language you speak, you can have an interpreter in any language you need for government business you are conducting. there is no reason whatsoever for an immigrant to learn English in this country. every congress in the last 25 years has brought up some sort of English as the official language bill and they are always shot down. so if you think that English should be the official language of the USA send an email to your senator.

I agree.

C'mon- let people know if you're kidding, being facetious or something like that. I have seen the same comments made before but the person was serious. If I had known....

 

[CraigV]

And that would have come across in what way?

Sarcastically

 

[lsiberian]

Breaking News to Craig

We don't speak English. We speak American. One trip to England should Dispell this myth.

Some questions to think about.

How many languages do you speak?

What country was California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico in first?

Who discovered the new world?

Who moves your furniture, builds your homes, picks your food, and cleans?

How many immigrants do you personally know?

Why can't we do for the Mexicans what their own country won't do for them?

 

[CraigV]

We don't speak English. We speak American. One trip to England should Dispell this myth. I won’t debate that
Some questions to think about.

How many languages do you speak? One, that's all I need

What country was California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico in first? Was

Who discovered the new world? Whatever group of people originally traversed the land bridge between the Asian/European continents first.

Who moves your furniture, builds your homes, picks your food, and cleans? Don’t know, but they should have assimilated by now

How many immigrants do you personally know? More than 25, and I enjoy their company,and the knowledge they impart to me, as this is the way I find out about different cultures

Why can't we do for the Mexicans what their own country won't do for them?

When did it become our responsibility? Why should we give them more consideration than for those who have been here all their lives?

As stated in my original post, this isn’t about bending to my will, it’s about having respect for the people you’re integrating with, as well as doing for yourself something that will make you new life easier and more prosperous.

 

[MatthewB.]

Being half Mexican, I see first hand how Mexicans behave. They trash talk our country all the time, think our government is a joke and have no shame in boasting that the use our resources and actually laugh about it. Most are short timers who want to work, send the money home then go back and retire living the life of a millionaire back home. For every dollar they make here is like 14 over there. Here in AZ, working in healthcare, they know the ways to get free heatlcare and will come in when their child has the sniffles knwoing full well, they won't be paying. Well what does this do for you, it closes another hopsital that can't afford to hand out free heathcare to tens of thousands. Phoenix is comprised of many mini cities (suburbs) like Mesa, Chandler, Scottsdale and so on, well each suburb is about 10 miles big and Mesa which used to have three hospitals now has none. Why, because Mesa is filled with illegals who used the services so much, that the hospitals could no longer afford to run. So now the legal citizens of Mesa in an emergency have to travel more than 10 miles to find the closest hospital.

 

[MatthewB.]

So, now what are the illegals doing, they are now heading outward to other hospitals and guess what will happen there? My sister and I both work in healthcare (she in Tucson) and she was telling me how a nurse of hers ruptured a tendon in her leg and had to wait a month in pain, to see a specialist. Had to jump through hoops with her insurance carrier and worked in severe pain till she could see a doctor. What makes this story interesting? This same nurse was caring for 10 illegals who while being chased and shooting at border agents, crashed their car. They were immediatly taken to a hospital, saw a doctor immediatly and are now laying in a hospital bed getting free pain medication, free service and a free hopsital stay, while this nurse has to struggle to pay her deductable, work a month in agony because she can't see a doctor right away, while caring for these free loaders. And this is just one case, think of the millions of illegals here and you kinda get the perspective of how they are going to turn us into a third world country and they just laugh about it.

 

[highfigh]

We don't speak English. We speak American. One trip to England should Dispell this myth.

Some questions to think about.

How many languages do you speak?

What country was California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico in first?

Who discovered the new world?

Who moves your furniture, builds your homes, picks your food, and cleans?

How many immigrants do you personally know?

Why can't we do for the Mexicans what their own country won't do for them?

As George Bernard Shaw said, America and England are two countries, separated by a common language.

California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico were only part of Mexico after the Spaniards came to this continent and decimated the native people. Before that, they obviously didn't speak Spanish. Why don't you have a problem with other countries that have had their borders altered by invading countries during war? That's how the US got those states. Part of TX came with The Louisiana Purchase, IIRC.

Who discovered the New World? You mean when the Native Americans were already here or the before people came to this continent via the land bridge from what's now Russia?

I move my furniture and clean my house. Why does it matter who picks my food? If they're here legally, I have no problem with them but if they come here, get benefits a US citizen can't, use services without paying for them, commit crimes in great numbers and cause deaths, illness, injury, rob, bring gangs (MS-13 and Mexican Mafia, among others), drive insurance prices up and create the need for more law enforcement, I care a lot. On top of this, until recently, many were sending tens of billions of dollars to family members in other countries- I fail to see how them working here has helped our economy when they sent well over a hundred billion dollars out.

Immigrants, from where? I know several, including some from Mexico. They came here legally, which means they entered according to the laws of the prevailing government, which is also what a US citizen would have to do if they wanted to move to Mexico.

"Why can't we do for the Mexicans what their own country won't do for them?"

You want this, you pay for it. I'm tired of my taxes shooting through the roof because people want to pay for everyone else. If the last few Mexican Presidents had any balls, they would have helped but the Mexican government is almost totally impotent. There's so much corruption it's disgusting and even with the long history of US (and other) companies manufacturing in Mexico, they still haven't seen fit to do much for the people in that country.