5.1 Setup with receiver under $1000

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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
I don't know what 4:4:4 chroma pixel formatting is or how important it is to you. I just use an hdmi cable from my vidcard to my tv (in your case, your receiver) and it works fine.
Thanks,

Here's an explanation of the pixel formatting.http://5dfilmmaking.com/tut_444.htm

It is important to me and one of the reasons I've got the TV along with its IPS panel. All movies are scaled down to 4:2:2 i believe, but for monitor use it's excellent.

Is there an audio cable that I can plug from my computer to the Receiver that will produce the same sound as audio over HDMI would?
 
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its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
No, hdmi or multichannel analog out is the only way to get dolby true hd or dts hd master audio. If you are fine with lossy audio like dolby digital or regular dts you can just use an optical cable or whatever.

Of course, if you aren't watching anything with dts hd ma or dolby true hd on your htpc, then it's a moot point and you can just stick with an optical cable.
 
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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
No, hdmi or multichannel analog out is the only way to get dolby true hd or dts hd master audio. If you are fine with lossy audio like dolby digital or regular dts you can just use an optical cable or whatever.

Of course, if you aren't watching anything with dts hd ma or dolby true hd on your htpc, then it's a moot point and you can just stick with an optical cable.
Okay thanks you very much Phillip for clearing up those questions. I will use HDMI.

Will it be a problem having the rear p153's sitting on a ledge (back close to wall) and having it roughly 2 feet lower than ear level when laying down to watch movies as opposed to sitting up?
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
2 feet below ear level might be a problem, but you can just give it a shot and see how it sounds. Them being close to a wall shouldn't matter since they are front ported (at least i think they are, i forget).
 
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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
2 feet below ear level might be a problem, but you can just give it a shot and see how it sounds. Them being close to a wall shouldn't matter since they are front ported (at least i think they are, i forget).
Sorry if i mentioned incorrectly, but the speakers would be about 2 feet ABOVE ear listening level. The speakers are front ported. Also I have the opportunity to position them at my sides facing at me at a lower height. Is that better positioning?

Can I power the p163's with a Pioneer SX-2700 @65w per channel til' my receiver comes in tomorrow? Or does that risk harm to the speakers.
 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
2 feet above is much better than 2 feet below!

I personally prefer having the surround speakers slightly above rather than at ear level, but you need to angle them down towards the listening area. You can try both and see what works for you.

As for the receiver, you can definitely use the Pioneer for now. Just don't turn the volume very loud or you risk clipping as the amp runs out of juice, and that can damage the speakers.
 
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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
2 feet above is much better than 2 feet below!

I personally prefer having the surround speakers slightly above rather than at ear level, but you need to angle them down towards the listening area. You can try both and see what works for you.

As for the receiver, you can definitely use the Pioneer for now. Just don't turn the volume very loud or you risk clipping as the amp runs out of juice, and that can damage the speakers.
Thank you I will do that until my receiver arrives tomorrow.

I do not believe it will be possible to angle the speakers down due to it being placed on a shelf that runs along the back wall and the p153 just sitting on them at an oblique angle. I also could place them on coffee tables horizontal and at equal height to where I will be sitting on the back couch.

I also have some questions as far as subwoofer placement. From what I've read in most circumstances they are best placed in the corner 8'' to 10'' inches from the wall on all sides. Now please refer to the diagram below for the following issues I'm concerned with.

In the front left of the diagram there is an attached corner cabinet thing that sits about 18'' high and is a one foot square in area that is in the corner (grey). Also a couch that would be directly in front of the sub (grey), The sub (labeled green) would most conveniently be placed in that corner. Basically surrounded by a computer desk, that corner cabinet, and the couch. All with 8'' to 10'' of course. Does this pose a problem?

I've read of the subwoofer crawl, but in my case the room sort of dictates placement. I could also try the back left corner and back right all of which are least from diagonally across the room. What are your guys' thoughts on this?

Thank you!

 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
Put the sub on the main seat and do the sub crawl. Compare how it sounds at the various possible placements.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
I didn't do a sub crawl at all, I just stuck the sub in the only place that I had room :D
 
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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
So all my speakers arrived and I realized that I received 3 p163's and 1 p153. Instead of 2x p163 and 2x 153. Can I use p163 and p153 for my rears. I really don't want to have to wait or pay to ship back the 163 and get a 153.

Is spending another 160 worthwhile to go 7.1 to match all the speakers?

Thanks
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
So all my speakers arrived and I realized that I received 3 p163's and 1 p153. Instead of 2x p163 and 2x 153. Can I use p163 and p153 for my rears. I really don't want to have to wait or pay to ship back the 163 and get a 153.

Is spending another 160 worthwhile to go 7.1 to match all the speakers?

Thanks
The seller should pay return shipping for their mistake.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
So all my speakers arrived and I realized that I received 3 p163's and 1 p153. Instead of 2x p163 and 2x 153. Can I use p163 and p153 for my rears. I really don't want to have to wait or pay to ship back the 163 and get a 153.

Is spending another 160 worthwhile to go 7.1 to match all the speakers?

Thanks
Where did you buy them?
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I bought them from world wide stereo through amazon.
Since they were sold by World Wide Stereo and Fullfilled by Amazon, just return the P153 for FREE RETURN and get another P163.:D

The one reason I buy just about EVERYTHING (fullfilled) from Amazon is because of their #1 awesome customer service.

All you have to do is go to your account, then on your order, click the RETURN ITEM button. Then specify which speaker you are returning. In this case, for example, I would return ONE P153 speaker. The reason is "Not as described" or something like that. Then print the Pre-Paid UPS label. Return it to Amazon with free pre-paid shipping. Order another P163 now while it's on sale. Track your return of the P153. Once amazon receives the P153, they will credit your credit card.

Or just contact Amazon if you don't want to do it yourself. You will still have to print out the pre-paid UPS label yourself.
 
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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
Since they were sold by World Wide Stereo and Fullfilled by Amazon, just return the P153 for FREE RETURN and get another P163.:D

The one reason I buy just about EVERYTHING (fullfilled) from Amazon is because of their #1 awesome customer service.

All you have to do is go to your account, then on your order, click the RETURN ITEM button. Then specify which speaker you are returning. In this case, for example, I would return ONE P153 speaker. The reason is "Not as described" or something like that. Then print the Pre-Paid UPS label. Return it to Amazon with free pre-paid shipping. Order another P163 now while it's on sale. Track your return of the P153. Once amazon receives the P153, they will credit your credit card.

Or just contact Amazon if you don't want to do it yourself. You will still have to print out the pre-paid UPS label yourself.
The only thing is am I going to have to pay for the return shipping? I know you said pre-paid, but I am just making sure. Also, I have not opened it and it is in its original box. Can I just ship it back like that or am I going to have to get another box for it?

Thank you!!!
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
No, you'd get your money back for the P153 (not paying for shipping either, amazon should give you a prepaid shipping label) and would be buying a P163.
 
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skeletor6

Audioholic Intern
No, you'd get your money back for the P153 (not paying for shipping either, amazon should give you a prepaid shipping label) and would be buying a P163.
Okay cool and thanks looks like their mistake will lead to a p163 upgrade.

Thanks everybody
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
The only thing is am I going to have to pay for the return shipping? I know you said pre-paid, but I am just making sure. Also, I have not opened it and it is in its original box. Can I just ship it back like that or am I going to have to get another box for it?

Thank you!!!
You don't have to pay a dime!

Amazon will pay for the return shipping.

You return the P153 in the same boxes they sent you.

Open the P153's box to prove that you have looked at them and all that and you are not happy with it.

Then put the P153 back in it's original boxes. Then print the UPS label (paid by Amazon) and clear tape the UPS label on the box. Then take it to UPS and get a receipt just in case.
 
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