4 wire speaker cable

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Mac101623

Audiophyte
What kind of connector is needed to connect 4 wire audio Cable to a tv or other device. Wires are already run through wall.
 
-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic Chief
Hi @Mac101623 , welcome to the Forum.

Please advise us what exactly (with manufacturers and model numbers of the devices involved) you are trying to accomplish. Typically you cannot connect a TV to external speakers. That wire would typically be used for shorter speaker runs from a Receiver / Amplifier to speakers.

I hope this is helpful.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
What points do those wires run between in the house? What are you trying to accomplish?
Those are speaker wires usually from a receiver to speakers in a room or other rooms in a house.

Need a bit more information, maybe a lot more.
 
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Mac101623

Audiophyte
Sorry for lack of information,I have the Honeywell genesis 5251 wire (posted above) running throughout the house to in ceiling speakers. I bought this house like this. The room I’m speaking about right now has one of these wires running to the location where a tv was mounted and 3 coming out of the wall near where a cable box would be.
Basically question would be how do I make the ceiling speakers play sound LOL.
What does the one near the tv need to be connected to? What do the other 3 need to be connected to?
 
-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic Chief
Without photos and / or labels identifying the cables (or you "ringing out" the cables) I'll take a few guesses for now.

I'm assuming the cable by the TV was for a center channel speaker, with the other end being one of the 3 cables coming out of the wall where you think a cable box was. I'm thinking the previous owner had a receiver there. The other 2 cables could possibly be to the (2?) ceiling speakers. How many ceiling speakers are there?

I expect you'll need a receiver to make this all work at all.
 
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Mac101623

Audiophyte
@jim
Thank you that was very helpful. Upon further exploration all of the wires run to the basement. So correct if I’m wrong. I would need the “big” receiver down there with amps to connect to each rooms seperate ceiling speakers?

also the cables you identified; how would I go about “connecting” them to what I want the sound played from(tv, stereo etc). They all look like they were just cut at the ends
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
@jim
Thank you that was very helpful. Upon further exploration all of the wires run to the basement. So correct if I’m wrong. I would need the “big” receiver down there with amps to connect to each rooms seperate ceiling speakers?

also the cables you identified; how would I go about “connecting” them to what I want the sound played from(tv, stereo etc). They all look like they were just cut at the ends
With speakers and amps you generally don't need a particular connector, bare wire ends can be connected to most terminals on speakers/amps. Many will use banana plugs added to basic speaker wire for convenience, tho. 4 wire cable can be used to connect a pair of speakers or wired together to effectively increase gauge for a single speaker. Lots of good info here on things speaker wire http://roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

A receiver in another room can present control problems for volume, input, etc. There are various ways to deal with extra zones (assume that's somewhat along the lines of your ceiling speakers), some receivers may be suitable but also depends somewhat on what controls you want to utilize.
 
-Jim-

-Jim-

Audioholic Chief
@Mac101623 post us some photos of the Cables, speakers, and where they are located, and what those rooms are going to be used for. Do you have a multimeter or can you borrow / buy one? A cheap one will be fine for our purposes. If so I can walk you through on how to figure out which cable is which, so you can label them for connection to a Receiver / Amplifier. (Alternately if you have a small speaker and a 9 volt battery that can work as well although a bit clumsy to use.

Please advise us what exactly (with manufacturers and model numbers of the devices involved) you are trying to accomplish. Or do you even know at this time?

I hope this is helpful.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
@jim
Thank you that was very helpful. Upon further exploration all of the wires run to the basement. So correct if I’m wrong. I would need the “big” receiver down there with amps to connect to each rooms seperate ceiling speakers?
For any rooms that have surround sound (more than a pair of stereo speakers), you would typically use a surround sound AV receiver. The top recommendations for a quality product for a reasonable amount of money are Denon, Yamaha, and Marantz.

If you have rooms with in-ceiling or in-wall speakers which will be used for music playback, then you have a number of options. You can use a single amplifier and a speaker selector. They have models from Sonance, Speakercraft, Niles, and others with integrated volume control that can do six rooms.
For example: https://www.crutchfield.com/S-ErhyoFZFII3/p_190SSVC6/Niles-SSVC-6.html

When this product says '6', it is referring to 6 stereo speaker pairs, so actually it deals with 12 speakers. This is different than a 2-channel amplifier. When a amplifier talks about being two channels, it means it handles ONE pair of stereo speakers. Two total speakers. One channel of amplification is required per speaker.

Another option is a multi-channel amplifier so each stereo speaker pair receives it's own dedicated power source.

Then you need a source for all those speakers. Depending on what you want to listen to and how you want to listen, things can be complex, or easy.

The entire concept of distributed whole-house audio can be quite a mess for some people, but if you ask questions, post photos, and keep asking questions, you can figure it out on your own, or you can hire someone locally to come in and take care of things for you.

also the cables you identified; how would I go about “connecting” them to what I want the sound played from(tv, stereo etc). They all look like they were just cut at the ends
Speaker wire is sold by the roll and is not typically terminated with anything at the ends before final installation. At final installation, the installer may choose to terminate the ends, or they may work with the bare wire directly into the amplifier and speakers. If they do choose to terminate the ends, one of the most common terminations is the banana plug. A decent banana plug holds the wire firmly and will ensure good audio quality to the speakers.

There are a number of videos online about terminating speaker cable to a banana plug.
This is a good one and shows several different types of banana plugs. I agree with the assessment made about their favorite brand (about 6 minutes in)...
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
The process I would go through on a client site where they are in a similar situation as you.

Step 1: Figure out where all the wires go if they are not properly labeled. This requires a fox and hound testing set (a toner and a wand). I would put a ton on the wires then go to each room until I found out where they are.

Step 2: Label the wires so I don't have to figure them out again.

Step 3: Put in speakers of the appropriate style/size/type if they are not already installed.

Step 4: Install equipment according to client needs.

Step 5: Test.

If things are already labeled and if speakers are installed...
Step 1 would be to put a tone on the speaker wires then go to the room associated with the label and ensure that the speakers are working properly and that things are labeled accurately, then I'd skip to Step 4.

It is a process to get it all setup and it takes some time, but the end result can work really well when listening to music throughout a home.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
OP, if you have ceiling speakers in most rooms, kitchen DR, etc. it seems that part at least could have been an intercom system or just a place where music could be routed to from a receiver. Certainly not for Atmos in those rooms.
Do the other rooms or some of them have a volume control on a wall in there?
May need to trace which wire goes where and that wire behind the TV location.
Any way to ask the previous owner, perhaps through the realtors how was it set up?
 

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