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  1. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    They look nice, but I can't even find a website for them. The products have to be from established companies with a website and distribution to at least USA and Canada (our biggest readership).
  2. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    The problem is physics. Small subs will have limited output. The other problem is manufacturers. They want nearly identical products from each company to be compared which is at best a lofty goal. Our shootout consists of subs between $1299 to $2700 and box sizes between 4 to 5 ft^3...
  3. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    His sub is only about 3.1 ft^3 (14" x 16" x 24") so its smaller than the others. I will discuss with him if he still wants to participate but I am trying to keep size nearly the same for all products.
  4. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    I just looked over the Klipsch specs of their new sub. Although its looks like a really nice sub, its much smaller than the other 4 in this comparison. Thus I decided to hold off on that product in this comparison. Earthquake emailed me that they are interested in being in this shootout but...
  5. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    I didn't even consider them but that sub looks nice. I can't figure out the dimensions or pricing though...
  6. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Thanks Ed as I enjoyed our dialogue. I actually did take your comments into consideration and restricted the shootout to subwoofers that are all under $3k/ea and 5 ft^3 or less. Also all 5 subs are ported except the Klipsch which has a passive radiator and could arguably be categorized as a...
  7. gene

    B&W, Revel, & RBH

    At what distance? the listening space or 1 meter? That's pretty easy for any of these speakers to hit (assuming 1 meter), especially the RBH T30s. Before considering dropping $15k+ on any of these speakers, you should consider beefing up your amp. While the Denon 5308 is a very good...
  8. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Some of the brands here have been making subs far longer than the existence of the companies you list as a "known" reference. JL Audio subs are too pricey for this shootout. The most expensive subs here are well under $3k. A 6th sub would make this endeavor too complex. You can rest assured...
  9. gene

    B&W, Revel, & RBH

    You better specify at what SPL level you expect that otherwise that spec is useless.
  10. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    It's still the Ultimate Subwoofer test in terms of the amount of detail we will put forth into the reviews. I have 5 products lined up. It was relatively easy to find companies not afraid to submit their products in a comparison like this. I just had a few whiners at first which almost put a...
  11. gene

    B&W, Revel, & RBH

    Yes they are truly fullrange speakers. 1/2 of the top of the cabinet extends to the bottom of the cabinet for the dual 10" woofers. So the dual 10s basically have a huge cabinet volume which is all discussed in my review. http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/floorstanding/rbh-t-30lse...
  12. gene

    B&W, Revel, & RBH

    You should definitely have a listen to the RBH T3s but be warned that's a HUGE speaker system. You may want to consider a T30 system which is a bit smaller and has the Status Acoustics upgraded drivers in it. The T3s will have a slight advantage in bass but the T30s mid/top end will surpass...
  13. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    that model has been discontinued and we will be testing a new one to be announced at CEDIA. Don't obsess over -3dB points of subs. There are so many subs out their claiming -3dB points below 20Hz which may be true at 90dB but once you crank them you have mega compression. They also trade SPL...
  14. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    The PSB is an excellent suggestion. I emailed them. I definitely want to include at least one Canadian brand since Axiom declined and Paradigm hasn't responded.
  15. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Looks like Rythmik subs wants to play: http://www.rythmikaudio.com/products.html They make some very impressive designs and I've heard so much good stuff about the quality of their products from industry professionals and competitors recently. I don't know why they've been below my radar...
  16. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Actually it will be I think. The FV15HP looks like a really nice sub!
  17. gene

    JBL Project Array 1500 Array vs Velodyne DD-15

    2 of the 4 subs in my reference system are Velodyne DD15s. They are very nice subs both performance and aesthetics. They've been around a long time however so you should be able to get one at a substantial discount. The reason to go Velodyne over some of the larger fanboy style subs is for...
  18. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    JL Audio hasn't been very responsive lately so I am not counting them in. I am also not going out of my way begging companies to send product for FREE press on the industry's largest audited home theater publication. Rythmik Subs seems interested so if they commit to sending product, we've got...
  19. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Actually I have a product from Klipsch that is a single driver. I enjoyed my exchange with SVS via email today. They convinced me I need to narrow the focus of the article to products people will actually purchase. Thus I am limiting the shootout to subs that are under $3k and under 6 ft^3.
  20. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Thanks but I really prefer shipping finished products from manufacturers. This has to be something easily purchased by consumers. As a side NOTE I am also welcoming participating manufacturers to submit what measurement aspects they would like included and any test methodologies or test...
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