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  1. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    JL Audio hasn't been very responsive lately so I am not counting them in. I am also not going out of my way begging companies to send product for FREE press on the industry's largest audited home theater publication. Rythmik Subs seems interested so if they commit to sending product, we've got...
  2. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Actually I have a product from Klipsch that is a single driver. I enjoyed my exchange with SVS via email today. They convinced me I need to narrow the focus of the article to products people will actually purchase. Thus I am limiting the shootout to subs that are under $3k and under 6 ft^3.
  3. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Thanks but I really prefer shipping finished products from manufacturers. This has to be something easily purchased by consumers. As a side NOTE I am also welcoming participating manufacturers to submit what measurement aspects they would like included and any test methodologies or test...
  4. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Which one? We reviewed one of these in the past: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/titanic-mk-iii So I don't want double coverage.
  5. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    I am getting a lot of resistance from the few manufacturers I've contacted so far. Most companies don't want to be in a face off. Despite I told the companies that each product will get its own dedicated review with the results tabulated at the end. They all fear product comparisons unless...
  6. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Update: SVS not Part of Shootout SVS graciously declined claiming all of the measured data of the PB-13 is available via IKKA's measurements at the HometheaterShack. They suggested that I use their data to compare to other subs in our shootout. We don't operate that way as we like to confirm...
  7. gene

    3D: The Most Predictable Flop in Recent History

    Honestly, I'm even getting sick of 3D at the Theaters. Do I need to spend $15-20/head to watch a cartoon movie with the family in 3D? My kids don't even like 3D. My youngest takes her glasses off within minutes and is then watching a blurry movie for the next 1.5 hours. Some theater by my...
  8. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    So far I emailed the following manufacturers: SVS: PB13 JL Audio: F212 Paradigm: Sub 1 or Sub 2 Axiom Audio: EP800 If all 4 say yes, than I just have to request 1 more sub :)
  9. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    This faceoff is only for manufacturers products that are shipping not DIY forum stuff. Maybe in the future.... BTW this faceoff is being conducted in California where Paul resides.
  10. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    SVS is almost always the largest sub in shootouts. Paul wants the biggest baddest subs he can get his hands on. I offered smaller/lighter, he said bring on the big. He's got a friggin forklift to move them! We will see what actually comes to fruition, I fear many of these companies won't...
  11. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    We are not going to compare 1 expensive sub vs 4 cheap subs. I think I've already made that point clear about the benefits of multi subs many times such as here: Are Two subs Better than One? Also I see no reason to separate sealed vs ported. The idea here is to gauge overall performance...
  12. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Guys; Let's also make sure your suggestions are easily purchasable for consumers. Also, would you guys even consider putting a dual 18" 300lbs+ sub in your living room>? Or is a sub like the SVS PB13 or Axiom EP800 the max allowable size? thanks.
  13. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    Recommended Reading In the meantime, I recommend reading the following articles related to this topic at hand: Trading SPL for Extension in Subwoofers Subwoofer Measurement Standard
  14. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    We are working on a test plan now but some of the basics that will be tested include: MAX SPL vs Frequency per CEA2010 method or equivalent (using 2 meter groundplane) Distortion vs SPL Group Delay Transient Response Mechanical Noise test Subjective sound quality
  15. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    We have a UL12 under review now. I don't think it would be fair to include that sub in this shootout though. This shootout is for the ultimate subs, price/size no object.
  16. gene

    Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout Planned

    I am planning the Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout to be headed up by Paul Apollonio. I am compiling a list of subs, price and size no object. We will pick about 5-6 subs for this test. The first 5-6 manufacturers that send product are included. If you have a particular product/model you want...
  17. gene

    2x f112 for 1xF212

    Maybe true if all you care about is sheer SPL output below 32Hz. I suggest reading this article that discusses SPL tradeoffs for extension: http://www.audioholics.com/education/loudspeaker-basics/subwoofer-extension
  18. gene

    Yamaha RX-V467 AV Receiver VIDEO Review

    I agree with this for the higher end products but for sub $400 receivers I think the target audience is more of an audiophyte than an audioholic.
  19. gene

    Denon AVP-A1HDCI / POA-A1HDCI Review Support Thread

    Congrats on your purchase! Just don't upload the latest firmware from Denon else you will lose bass for SACDs when using D.Link or HDMI :mad:
  20. gene

    2x f112 for 1xF212

    It's more likely than you think and I have measured it in my own system which features two ported subs and 2 sealed subs. You can see a drop off below 20Hz that doesn't exist when the subs with the lower f3 are being played alone. Also a phase shift at low F also affects frequencies above the...
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