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Neither would I, unless I could return them. (In the case of ID brands, that means returning them without having to pay shipping.)

Not true. I gave up on subs after trying to integrate several different ones (all of them good) with an equal variety of stereo speakers. In every case, the sub was easily identifiable as a separate source.

Is this for music or movies? I would use a sub for movies if my HT speakers were less bass-capable. On the other hand, I never use a sub for music because it is almost impossible to integrate with a 2-channel system.

Actually, he had heard the Def Techs in my HT and was blown away by them (rightfully so), so that is what he bought.

I totally agree, except for the Klipsch Reference part. I would never recommend anything by Klipsch (they sound harsh and excessively bright.)

Actually, I got some old speakers back. I gave a friend my Primus 250s after he had a fire. He recently returned them after buying a new system for himself. I am reminded of why I liked them in the first place, as they still sound fabulous. (I wish I could get silver grilles for them, though.):)

So now every excellent brand of speakers that has an owner's thread has a "cult following"?:confused: Weird logic.

Ha Ha. Comparing anything to Bose is an intentional insult (and a rather rude one, at that!):eek:

It is time to put an end to the ridiculous urban legend that Def Techs are "not good for music". Anyone who thinks that has obviously either not heard them at all or not heard them set up properly. In fact, they are at least as good for music as any comparably priced towers, whatever the brand.

Where will you get big enough rolling papers?:p

My Def Techs (BP8Bs and 10Bs) also sound extremely good with music. Soundstage/imaging is one of their many strong suits.

Unlike you, I am smart enough to know that floorstanders do not sit on stands.:rolleyes: In a large room, the Infinity Primus 362s, Def Tech BP10Bs, or Polk Monitor 70s all offer stunning performance for $1000/pr or less, with the Infinities being under $500. In a smaller room, I would suggest...

Both of those choices suck. You can do much better than either. The SVS mentioned above is a better choice, as is one of the Infinity sets.

Goodness, do you suppose it could be the FM reception? I would never have thought of that on my own!:D

If it were me, I wouldn't merely spend less than $2000, I would spend a lot less. There are many fantastic floorstanders well under $1000, and quite a few under $500.

I can't even begin to imagine any reason for wanting two center channels. If you don't like the one you have, just replace it with a better one. Running two at once will not sound better than just running one, and is very likely to sound worse.

My Ultimate Electronics would not match a price from Vanns (on Mirage Omni 350s) when I asked.:eek:

Cool! I may try it. I will look for silver cloth. My old Primus 250s were recently returned to me (by a friend who I gave them to 2 years ago, because he bought new speakers recently.) I never liked the black grilles, and I have seen the new 252s with silver grilles that look cool. That is what...

Has anyone here made their own speaker grilles? How hard is it to do? (I ask because I think I could do better, looks-wise, than the ones that came with my speakers.)

Why, he's just a baby!:p Happy birthday!