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The PSB will be re-allocated to a system in the family room. :)
 
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Its going to take a little work. I think there is another bass crawl in order as well as a re-run of all my YPAO.

Don't YPAO the sub. Do that manually after you config the rest with YPAO. I feel people waste too much energy dealing with calibration through receivers to get optimal performance they are wanting or expecting out of the sub.

BTW... I used to own dual LV12r's and only own one (I kept one and left one from selling my previous home)!!
They are wonderful performers and I came from a pair of XS15s. Remember its not what you hear from the sub, its what you fell from it but with quality.

Btw... here's my Lv12R sitting in the front behind an acoustic panel and bass-trap on the left.

-Bass out




Oh and here are the dual XS15s testing and lots of moving, and decided to pass on them for the LV12r's (then).
Trust me, you will be happy with the rythmik sub, just let the sub break in for a few weeks and they will change , just don't push them too hard at the beginning. They will open up!

 
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afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Great advice. Awesome setup too. What do those panels go for?
 
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Great advice. Awesome setup too. What do those panels go for?
Panels varies in price. ATS has very nice panels , the ones I own is from a music acoustic company based out of Los Angels, CA called LA Sound Panels (Link: LA Sound Panels ). However, I scored mine back in Austin as one of the relatives living there was launching its brand there and got heck of a deal then. I got a great deal for two bass-traps and 6-panels all for less than $400.
 
billy p

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Hey 3db..the anticipation is killing me....time to fess up....lol. Even a brief summary would suffice....:)
 
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Audioholic Slumlord
Hey 3db..the anticipation is killing me....time to fess up....lol. Even a brief summary would suffice....:)
I'm in the middle of writing up a review for it. I was away camping last week. I have to get a few test BluRays out to finish the write up. I did watch the latest Star Trek BluRay but the bass on that release is not reference material. I did watch Underworld awakening and I felt and heard tight and tunefull bass. I'm very happy with it so far.
 
BoredSysAdmin

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I'm in the middle of writing up a review for it. I was away camping last week. I have to get a few test BluRays out to finish the write up. I did watch the latest Star Trek BluRay but the bass on that release is not reference material. I did watch Underworld awakening and I felt and heard tight and tunefull bass. I'm very happy with it so far.
In last ST - The lava scene shook my whole apt quite , just sayin
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
The reviews said the audio on Into Darkness was reference material.

From Blu-ray.com
The track is big, rich, and perfectly defined from the top of the highs to the deepest of the lows.
 
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In last ST - The lava scene shook my whole apt quite , just sayin
I must replay this. I was watching this film late last night and may have had the volume down. I just remember Underworld Awakening having substantially way more bass. But then again, I was playing it in the afternoon.
 
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The reviews said the audio on Into Darkness was reference material.

From Blu-ray.com
I own the Blu-Ray and I heard it for myself. I can tell you that the sound track isn't nearly as stellar in the bass department as the reviews make it out to be. The lava scene as Boredsysadmin mentioned is the only true memeorable bass scene in that film and its very brief. There are countless movies with far better bass than this one. Just sayin.


Boredsysadmin...

I did replay the lava scene at a more appropriate level and I did feel it in my gut as well as hear it. However, this is only really deep bass passage in that movie.
 
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<!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <![endif]--> The LV12R ARRIVES

I was enroute to the vet with sick cat in tow when my daughter called me indicating that UPS just left the subwoofer at the front door. She managed to gently role it on its side to get it into the door and pushed the carton far enough from the door to lock it.

I eventually returned home with the cat and some required meds and then looked at the box. “Wow!! This thing is big” I thought. I managed to carry the unit into the basement and into my home theater area.

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I checked all around the box to see if there were any tears or puncture but it all seemed intact. I opened the box and noticed the instructions were lying on top of a Styrofoam foam tray that was used to keep the sub centred and anchored in the box. Along with the instructions were a couple of boxes which held the power cord and the sub’s rubber feet. As you can tell from the pics, the box was very sturdy with nice thick walls all around.

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Lifting off the tray, I noticed that the sub was sealed in a plastic bag. I extracted the sub from the box after carefully laying the carton on its side.

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TIME TO COMPARE
Physically, this sub is much larger than the PSB Subsonic 5 sub it replaces as illustrated by the pics.

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I initially put the LV-R12 where the PSB used to sit and quickly connected it to my system and loaded up Transformers in DVD on the Blu-ray player. I was shocked that I barely heard any bass at all from it. The PSB at that location easily outplayed it. Instead of panicking at this point, I thought a new bass crawl and a recalibration of YPAO was in order to rectify this. I wouldn’t be able to do this for another two agonizingly long days.
 
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LV12-R review continued

<!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <![endif]--> The NEW SWEET SPOT

From the pics below, one can see that the new sweet spot was behind my left speaker. There was not a whole lot of room back there and I was worried that the sub’s proximity to my speaker would cause sonic issues. Brian Ding of Rythmik quickly responded to my inquiry and told me that this would not be an issue for either the speaker or the sub. I reran YPAO at this point and I was ready for my first foray into 20 Hz bass, something the PSB just could not do.

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The BASS
Since my primary purpose for this sub is HT, I primarily tested it using Blu-ray’s. Before I describe what I’ve heard during my listening tests, I want to put out a point of reference to SPL. I was listening to a level where just the dialog scenes were hovering between 75 and 80db. I should have measured the output during the bass peaks but I forgot too. I just was too amazed at what I was hearing.

I loaded up Iron Man 2 and this film is riddled with deep bass scenes from the get go. The opening scene has IronMan2 flying to the Stark Expo through the volley of exploding fireworks. Each explosion left both a very tactile thump in my chest and a nice tight articulate rumble that coursed through the room. The bass was tight with no hint of sloppiness.
I immediately followed up Ironman 2 with the Avengers, another film I would use to show off my HT system. During the collapse of the laboratory facilities, my eldest daughter calls me from her cell (she’s upstairs in the kitchen and directly overhead my listening position) saying that the empty can of bake beans has rattled across the sink and fell in. From my listening position, I felt my chest rattle as the lab was collapsing. I could easily make out individual bass notes during the collapse as well indicating how articulate the LV-R12 is in its bass delivery.

In a nut shell, I both felt and heard bass that was extremely tight and tuneful with no sloppiness or booming. I was quite amazed at how detailed the LV-R12 played. Not only did I feel the bass but I could easily discern individual notes changes within the scenes hearing the pitch rise and/or fall. I whole heartedly recommend this sub. Its even more remarkable when you consider its price tag of $589
 
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billy p

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Very nice.... I had the same expereince when I purchased my Svs. I could faintly hear it...it wasn't until after I worked on proper placement & re-calibrated that I noticed a big difference from the sub it replaced. As somebody here once told me "a properly set up sub shouldn't draw to much attention on to itself...it should only be heard only when called upon".

Ps: Still going to try and sell my current sub...maybe after x-mass...cause...I really want a 18.0C or maybe one of those sealed 15" Rythmiks...but its not happening until spring!:D

Regards and enjoy you new sub...Bill...:)
 
afterlife2

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Audioholic Warlord
Glad to hear your bass here in Brooklyn.:eek:Enjoy it man and thanks for the review!
 
j_garcia

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Audioholic Jedi
I own the Blu-Ray and I heard it for myself. I can tell you that the sound track isn't nearly as stellar in the bass department as the reviews make it out to be. The lava scene as Boredsysadmin mentioned is the only true memeorable bass scene in that film and its very brief. There are countless movies with far better bass than this one. Just sayin.


Boredsysadmin...

I did replay the lava scene at a more appropriate level and I did feel it in my gut as well as hear it. However, this is only really deep bass passage in that movie.
I own it too. "Deep" overpowering bass is not what they were getting at, and the review was specific that the track was clean and NOT overwhelming. Reference track does not mean retarded bass. Underworld has amazing audio as well, but the LFE was hot in many scenes. If you want something fun to test it out with, give Hot Fuzz a run :D Excellent LFE in that one. Then there's always WOTW.

You might want to look into a sub isolation pad as well if things in other rooms are vibrating around :)
 
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If you want something fun to test it out with, give Hot Fuzz a run :D Excellent LFE in that one. Then there's always WOTW.

You might want to look into a sub isolation pad as well if things in other rooms are vibrating around :)
I own WOTW on DVD. I will give it a try. :)
 
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