Denon AVR-A100

[surveyor]

I've purchased a Denon AVR-A100 new directly from Denon. It looks sweet. I haven't hooked it up yet.
I'll be using it in pre-amp mode as a replacement for my Integra DHC-80.2 that I'll be putting up for sale!
I just got the Integra back from warranty work- they replaced the HDMI board. I doubt the Denon will surpass the Integra- but it has a five year warranty- whereas the Integra has just six months left. I hope I'm making the correct choice?

 

[PENG]

I've purchased a Denon AVR-A100 new directly from Denon. It looks sweet. I haven't hooked it up yet.
I'll be using it in pre-amp mode as a replacement for my Integra DHC-80.2 that I'll be putting up for sale!
I just got the Integra back from warranty work- they replaced the HDMI board. I doubt the Denon will surpass the Integra- but it has a five year warranty- whereas the Integra has just six months left. I hope I'm making the correct choice?

I think they are more or less equals, the 4520 would likely trump the Integra, in terms of features anyway.

 

[surveyor]

I think they are more or less equals, the 4520 would likely trump the Integra, in terms of features anyway.

I compared the AVR-A100 to the 4520- they are closely matched. I believe the 4520 has maybe 10 watts per channel more. But I was able to get the AVR-A100 for $500.00 dollars less directly from Denon. The AVR-A100 warranty is for 5 years- whereas the 4520 has a three year warranty. The AVR-A100 is a couple of pounds heavier and looks sweeter in my opinion.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The AVR-A100 looks very sweet indeed. I think you made the right decision.

 

[surveyor]

After a prolongned listening session to include a movie. The Integra/ Outlaw come out on top audio wise and slightly better video wise. That being said, it's scary how close the Denon comes on it's own amps inclusive at less than half the cost! The next session will be using the Denon as a pre-amp only. I suspect the audio will improve some- we'll have to see. I've got a sneaking suspision that the Integra's DACs are superior to the Denon's also!As in 32 bit BB's compared to 24 bit BB's. I'm going to roll with the Denon because I have the 5 year warranty and it's made in Japan.

 

[PENG]

I've got a sneaking suspision that the Integra's DACs are superior to the Denon's also!As in 32 bit BB's compared to 24 bit BB's. I'm going to roll with the Denon because I have the 5 year warranty and it's made in Japan.

I think that is pretty much a fact, that the Integra has higher end DACs, on paper anyway. That is the main reason why I consider the 4520 is a little more than the 4311/A200 as it has higher end DACs and Denon's more advanced version of AL32 proprietary processing. Other than that the 4520 has some silly useless features (to most people I am guessing) such as an Ethernet hub, 4K video, and a few other little things. The 4520 has apparently gone back to the slightly more expensive Burr Brwon 24/192 32 bit DAC, most likely same as those in the current Marantz flagship prepro. I am not sure the Integra has the 32 bit DACs (I mean DAC, not the DSP processor) but I will try to find out.

When you mentioned "superior.." I thought you referred to specs & features on paper, that's why I brought up the 4520. For real world performance I think I won't be able to perceive any SQ differences. I also much prefer the look of the A200, even the 4311. As for the weight difference, it seems to vary as usual, from different sources. Base on the specs including the power consumption figures, I doubt the 4520 could be lighter. I mean, on paper my ex-4308, weight 7 lbs heavier, doesn't make sense to me, again base on the other indicative specs. In the final analysis, the 4311 would have been my choice too, for half the price of the 4520.

When you compare the A200 to the Integra/Outlaw be sure not to be influenced by the P effect. Just a friendly reminder, that's all..

 

[surveyor]

DHC-80.2
9.2-Channel Network A/V Controller

ADVANCED FEATURES

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THX® Ultra2 Plus™ Certified

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HDMI® (Version 1.4a to Support 3D and Audio Return Channel) with Deep Color™, x.v.Color™,

LipSync, Dolby
® TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio™, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD,

Multichannel PCM, and CEC

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8 HDMI Inputs (1 Front/7 Rear) and 2 Outputs

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Dual HDMI Outputs (Simultaneously Active Capable)

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2 USB Ports (Front and Rear Panel)

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Front-Panel USB Port for Memory Devices and iPhone® / iPod® Models (Enables Display of

Album Artwork)

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Network Capability for Streaming Audio Files (MP3, WMA, WMA Lossless, FLAC, WAV, Ogg

Vorbis, AAC, and LPCM)

•
Internet Radio Connectivity (Pandora®, Rhapsody®, SIRIUS Internet Radio®, Napster,

Mediafly™, Slacker, and vTuner)*

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Certified with Windows® 7 and DLNA Version 1.5

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Firmware Updates via Ethernet and USB

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ISF (Imaging Science Foundation) Video Calibration for Optimal Video Performance

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HDMI Video Upscaling to 1080p/24 with HQV Reon-VX

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VLSC™ (Vector Linear Shaping Circuitry) for All Channels

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Burr-Brown 192 kHz/32-Bit DACs (PCM1795 x 6) for All Channels

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DSD Direct for Super Audio CD

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Dolby® Volume for Reference-Quality Listening Experience at Any Volume

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Dolby® TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio™, Dolby® Digital Plus, DTS-HD High-Resolution

Audio™ Decoding

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DTS Neural Surround™ Decoding

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Audyssey DSX™ and Dolby® Pro Logic® IIz for New Surround Channels

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Audyssey MultEQ® XT32 for Room Acoustic Correction

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Audyssey MultEQ® Pro Ready with Target EQ Curve Editing*

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Audyssey Dynamic EQ® for Loudness Correction

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Audyssey Dynamic Volume® to Maintain Optimal Listening Level and Dynamic Range

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2-Channel Balanced XLR Audio Inputs

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9.2 Multichannel Balanced XLR Pre Outs (with Front Bi-Amp Capability)

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Overlaid Graphical On-Screen Display (OSD) via All Video Outputs

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4 DSP Modes for Gaming: Rock, Sports, Action, and Role Playing Game (RPG)

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Analog RGB Video Input (D-sub, 15 pin) and Audio Input for PC

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Gold-Plated, Machined Solid Brass, 3/4" (19 mm)-Pitch Audio Inputs (TV/CD and Phono)

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Universal Port for Single-Cable Connection of Optional Onkyo Dock for iPhone® / iPod® or

HD Radio™ Tuner

*Availability of services depends on region.

OTHER FEATURES

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Three 32-Bit Processing DSP Chips (DA830 x 1, DA788 x 2)

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7 Digital Inputs (4 Optical and 3 Coaxial)

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HDTV-Capable Component Video Switching (3 Inputs and 1 Output)

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Linear Optimum Gain Volume Circuitry

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Music Optimizer™ for Compressed Digital Music Files

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A-Form Listening Mode Memory

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Direct Mode

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Independent Crossover Adjustment for F/C/S/SB

(40/45/50/55/60/70/80/90/100/110/120/130/150/200 Hz)

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A/V Sync Control Function (Up to 250 ms in 2 ms Steps)

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Color-Coded, 9.2 Multichannel Pre Outs (Including 2 Independent Subwoofer Pre Outs)

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Color-Coded, 7.1 Multichannel Inputs

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SIRIUS Satellite Radio® Ready* and HD Radio Ready

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40 FM/AM/SIRIUS Random Presets

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Compatible with RI (Remote Interactive) Dock for iPod

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Bi-Directional, Preprogrammed, and Customizable RI Remote Control with Backlight,

On-Screen Setup, Mode-Key LEDs, and Macro Presets for Four Activities

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5 A/V Inputs (1 Front/4 Rear) and 1 Output

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Video/S-Video Outputs (Monitor)

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1 Audio Input and 1 Output

* SIRIUS requires separate purchase of subscription, compatible tuner, and antenna.

CUSTOM INTEGRATION FEATURES

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Bi-Directional Ethernet and RS232 Port for Control

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Zone 2/3 Pre Outs for Distributed Audio Playback in Multiple Rooms

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Zone 2 and Zone 3 Subwoofer Outputs

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Zone 2 Monitor Outputs (Component and Composite Video)

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Independent Zone 2 and Zone 3 Bass/Treble/Balance Controls

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Max & Power On Volume Settings for Main Zone & Zone 2/Zone 3

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Dealer Settings Memory Store & Recall with Lock/Unlock

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Permanently Stored Settings

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2 IR Inputs and 1 Output

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3 Programmable 12V Triggers (with Adjustable Delay)

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Optional Rack Mount Kit Available (IRK-180-4)

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RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) for System Control*

*Compatibility depends on respective model.

Inspired By Passion-Driven By Excellence

O
nce again, Integra has pulled out all the stops to deliver a state-of-the-art pre-pro ready to handle all your

favorite entertainment sources. Everything from distributed audio to customizable A/V calibration is handled

with total finesse.

9.2-Channel Network A/V Controller

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regulatory standards. Manufactured under license from Audyssey Laboratories. U.S. and foreign patents pending. Audyssey DSX,

Audyssey MultEQ XT32, Audyssey Dynamic EQ, and Audyssey Dynamic Volume are trademarks of Audyssey Laboratories.

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DHC-80.2

SPECIFICATIONS

AMPLIFIER SECTION

THD (Total Harmonic Distortion): 0.05% (Rated Power)

Damping Factor: 60 (Front, 1 kHz, 8 ohms)

Input Sensitivity and Impedance: 200 mV/47 k-ohms (Line)

2.5 mV/47 k-ohms (Phono MM)

Rated RCA Output Level and

Impedance: 1 V/470 ohms (Pre out)

Maximum RCA Output Level

and Impedance: 5.5 V/470 ohms (Pre out)

Rated XLR Output Level and

Impedance: 2 V/470 ohms (Pre out)

Maximum XLR Output Level

and Impedance: 11.0 V/470 ohms (Pre out)

Phono Overload: 70mV (MM 1kHz 0.5%)

Frequency Response: 5 Hz–100 kHz/+1 dB, -3 dB (Direct mode)

Tone Control : ±10 dB, 50 Hz (Bass)

±10 dB, 20 kHz (Treble)

Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 110 dB (Line, IHF-A)

80 dB (PHONO, IHF-A)

VIDEO SECTION

Input Sensitivity/Output

Level and Impedance

Video: 1.0 Vp–p/75 ohms (Component Y and S-Video Y)

0.7 Vp–p/75 ohms (Component P
B/CB,PR/CR)

0.28 Vp-p/75 ohms (S-Video C)

1.0 Vp–p/75 ohms (Composite)

Component Video

Frequency Response: 5 Hz–100 MHz/0 dB, -3 dB

TUNER SECTION

Tuning Frequency Range: FM 87.5 MHz–107.9 MHz

AM 530 kHz–1,710 kHz

FM/AM/SIRIUS Preset Memory: 40 stations

GENERAL

Power Supply: AC 120 V~, 60 Hz

Power Consumption: 1.2 A

Dimensions (W x H x D): 17 1/8
˝ x 7 13/16˝ x 17 1/2˝ (435 x 173.5 x 365 mm)

Weight: 29.8 lbs. (13.5 kg)

CARTON

Dimensions (W x H x D): 22 7/16
˝ x 11 3/4˝ x 18 7/16˝

(570 x 298 x 469 mm)

Weight: 38.6 lbs. (17.5 kg)

Inspired By Passion - Driven By Excellence.

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[AcuDefTechGuy]

Well, on paper the PCM1795 has a 32bit/ 123dB SNR & the AK4358 has a 24bit/ 112dB SNR/ 100dB XTalk. But I doubt anyone can hear the difference.

just like the PCM1792 in my AVP-A1HD & 5308CI has a 132dB SNR, but who can hear the difference between 112dB vs 123dB vs 132dB?

 

[surveyor]

I noticed that Audyssey had set all of my speakers to large. I changed that having all but the front crossed at 60 HZ. The sound is improved- not that it was bad before!

 

[surveyor]

This is a tough decision to sell the Integra! I wish I could afford- or at least justify keeping both. The Denon also has very nice amps- that could be utilized elsewhere, or take over if the Outlaw Model 770 were to break.

 

[PENG]

This is a tough decision to sell the Integra! I wish I could afford- or at least justify keeping both. The Denon also has very nice amps- that could be utilized elsewhere, or take over if the Outlaw Model 770 were to break.

With that long list of features and impressive specs of the 80.2, I can understand the wish to keep both now but why did you get the A100 in the first place?

 

[surveyor]

With that long list of features and impressive specs of the 80.2, I can understand the wish to keep both now but why did you get the A100 in the first place?

I lost audio and internet on the DHC-80.2. The HDMI card went out at about a year and a half. The warranty repaired it- new HDMI card. It workds great now. But, I am not real tolerant of having a $2,300 dollar piece of equipment- that was truly babied break. Patience isn't sometimes my best virture. I have a Denon AVR-3312ci in my computer room , and I've grown really fond of Denon recievers. Their amps are incredible for a reciever. After tweaking The AVR- A100 it's really impressing me! I'm now running it in pre-amp mode- using the Outlaw Model 770 for amplification. The Denon AVR-A100 amps are superb for a reciever. As a pre-amp it's awesome- also! I'm quite sure your AVR-4520 can best the AVR-A100 for features and it's also made in Japan!

 

[PENG]

I lost audio and internet on the DHC-80.2. The HDMI card went out at about a year and a half. The warranty repaired it- new HDMI card. It workds great now. But, I am not real tolerant of having a $2,300 dollar piece of equipment- that was truly babied break. Patience isn't sometimes my best virture. I have a Denon AVR-3312ci in my computer room , and I've grown really fond of Denon recievers. Their amps are incredible for a reciever. After tweaking The AVR- A100 it's really impressing me! I'm now running it in pre-amp mode- using the Outlaw Model 770 for amplification. The Denon AVR-A100 amps are superb for a reciever. As a pre-amp it's awesome- also! I'm quite sure your AVR-4520 can best the AVR-A100 for features and it's also made in Japan!

I don't have the 4520, I have the AV7005 and is thinking of upgrading to the AV8801. If I don't have the amps already I would definitely be considering the 4520, or the outgoing 4311.

 

[surveyor]

I don't have the 4520, I have the AV7005 and is thinking of upgrading to the AV8801. If I don't have the amps already I would definitely be considering the 4520, or the outgoing 4311.

I looked at the AV8001 really hard- it looks very impressive. It was just a little out of my budget range!

 

[PENG]

I looked at the AV8001 really hard- it looks very impressive. It was just a little out of my budget range!

I am facing similar problem, that makes it doubly hard to get pass the WAF, but we'll see..

 

[surveyor]

I am facing similar problem, that makes it doubly hard to get pass the WAF, but we'll see..

I hope your wife accepts- it's a awesome AVP!

 

[surveyor]

Where are the block capacitors on the AVR-A100 located?

 

[Alex2507]

Patience isn't sometimes my best virtue.

Nor should it be! Sell that Integra POS just as fast as you can.

BTW, how much for that broke garbage?

 

[surveyor]

Nor should it be! Sell that Integra POS just as fast as you can.

BTW, how much for that broke garbage?

It's fixed and still has 6 month warranty from square trade. I'll take $1,200 and split the shipping.

 

[Alex2507]

It's fixed and still has 6 month warranty from square trade. I'll take $1,200 and split the shipping.

Oh thank God it's too tall. That eliminates the gear lust. Good luck with the sale though.