The Hobbit ...listening to CBC radio last night

[3db]

I heard on CBC last night that this one of the first films to be shot at 48fps rather than the industry standard 24fps. This peaked my interest so I found this article after googling it...


'The Hobbit' at 48fps: Frame Rates Explained | News & Opinion | PCMag.com


The bad about this movie and I agree with the critic is that they could have made one 3 hour dam good film to fit in with the rest of series but they chose to make this part one of a trilogy.

 

[bikemig]

The early reviews on The Hobbit seem to mixed both as to the frame rate and the actual movie but that won't stop me from seeing it, . There is a theater near me that will allow me to see it at 48fps but, based on what I've been reading, I may want to see the movie at that frame rate. I suspect it was mistake to take a slender book and carve it out to three movies. That said, the movie is based on much more than the book since it takes much of the backstory from LOTR (from the appendices) and slices it into the book.

Edit: btw, love CBC even if I have to listen to an internet stream in the US of A.

 

[bikemig]

Here's an interesting, positive review of the 48 fps format: The Hobbit in 48 fps: Why I liked the increased frame rate. - Slate Magazine

 

[KEW]

Steve Colbert is a big "Hobbit Geek" and he converted the stage for "Hobbit week", interviewing a key character and the director through the week. Jackson does talk a bit about the 48fps, but these links are generally more about the movie and the actors' experiences.

For those of you who couldn’t catch The Colbert Report’s Hobbit Week, TheOneRing.net has assembled links to clips from the shows. Steven Colbert, a self-professed Tolkien uber-geek, dedicated this past week to interviewing cast members from the upcoming Hobbit movie. Interviews included Martin Freeman, Andy Serkis, Sir Ian McKellen, Elijah Wood, and director Peter Jackson himself. Follow the links below to see all five spots, but beware that it’s been reported there may be a spoiler or two!

Clips from Colbert “Hobbit Week” | Hobbit Movie News and Rumors | TheOneRing.net

 

[darien87]

I'm boycotting this one. Screw the greedy movie company and their lame attempt to wring as much money out of this as possible. There is absolutely no reason for them to string this out into 3 movies other than as a cash grab.

I'll wait until they've released all 3 and then just watch the BD.

 

[j_garcia]

There's an article going around that said they are actually putting out a disclaimer BEFORE people go to see the movie about 48fps because it hasn't screened well. This news about the 48fps has been around since they started filming.

**found one of the articles

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/04/28/the-hobbit-at-48fps-too-much-information-and-the-science-of-eye-movement/

It looked like when you turn your LCD television to the 120 hertz up-conversion setting.… It looked uncompromisingly real—so much so that it looked fake.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I heard on CBC last night that this one of the first films to be shot at 48fps rather than the industry standard 24fps. This peaked my interest so I found this article after googling it...


'The Hobbit' at 48fps: Frame Rates Explained | News & Opinion | PCMag.com


The bad about this movie and I agree with the critic is that they could have made one 3 hour dam good film to fit in with the rest of series but they chose to make this part one of a trilogy.

Well, kind of old news as this was also out when Dolby Atmos was announced as this is one of the movies with the new sound.

I am under the impression that motion picture projector shutters show the film frame twice. But, I could be mistaken.

 

[j_garcia]

Well, kind of old news as this was also out when Dolby Atmos was announced as this is one of the movies with the new sound.

I am under the impression that motion picture projector shutters show the film frame twice. But, I could be mistaken.

Yes, and the same as Atmos will apply AFAIK - very few theaters will actually be showing the 48FPS.

 

[j_garcia]

Rather long, but VERY interesting article on the various versions and why 3DHFR did not work for this film.

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Masterclass in Why 48 FPS Fails

In 3D HFR—I actually found myself having a VERY hard time looking at any ONE thing for any period of time. Looking into someone's eyes was painful at times—and I found my eyes dancing around the frame. Looking at every little detail around the scene, and having my visual cortex overwhelmed with the 3 dimensionality of the environment and the movement of the camera. So in effect 3D HFR succeeded in getting my full visual attention—but not allowing me to get immersed in it passively or with free will. I was being taken on a ride and being told "look at the entire screen and all of the details" at all times…

I was just too visually engaged to worry about that "stuff." And I think that's why people weren't laughing as they watched the dinning scene—not laughing at all. They weren't connecting to the characters or paying attention to the dialogue as much. They weren't being allowed to.

Regarding 2D version:

And guess what else? I connected with the actors. I was left to let my eyes wander and tunnel vision if you will to the detail or actor that I wanted to "listen" to or see. I caught every joke and chuckled. I became immersed. And I found this absolutely fascinating—even stunning to the point that I had to ask myself (even though I knew the answer) whether the same scene had been re-light and re-shot in 2D (it wasn't—they simply used only one of the 2 cameras they shot with.) And this is coming from someone who has been studying lighting and the visual medium for 22 years. I had two polar opposite reactions to the lighthing and visuals of the EXACT SAME MATERIAL.

 

[3db]

Has anyone watched it yet at the higher frame rate?

 

[mtrycrafts]

Has anyone watched it yet at the higher frame rate?

A family member has, 3D, XD, Atmos, was most impressed with the image quality especially in 3D, no blurring. Sound all around but a bit too loud of a presentation.

 

[3db]

Thanks. I don't know why some theaters liek to crank the loudness levels up to the point of being uncomfortable. It puts a damper on the enjoyment factor.

 

[jonnythan]

Just to note, if you see it in 2D you will get 24 FPS. 48 is only for 3D.

 

[j_garcia]

Just to note, if you see it in 2D you will get 24 FPS. 48 is only for 3D.

No, If I am not mistaken, there are 3 flavors of this one. HFR, HFR 3D and 2D.

 

[jonnythan]

No, If I am not mistaken, there are 3 flavors of this one. HFR, HFR 3D and 2D.

Nope. There is no 48 FPS 2D. There is 24 FPS 3D, 48 FPS 3D (HFR3D), and 24 FPS 2D.

48 fps Theater List - 48 FPS Movies

"As of now, WB is not releasing The Hobbit in 48 fps 2D, only 48 fps 3D."

 

[j_garcia]

Yeah, I just looked it up and found that too, it was the 24FPS 3D that threw me off.

 

[skizzerflake]

I'm boycotting this one. Screw the greedy movie company and their lame attempt to wring as much money out of this as possible. There is absolutely no reason for them to string this out into 3 movies other than as a cash grab.

I'll wait until they've released all 3 and then just watch the BD.

There is enough content to make 3 movies. I saw it tonight and aside from a little bit of comic dwarf banter, there was not much dead air in the movie. Of course the movie company is greedy, but what movie company is NOT? The question, of course, is whether the story and characters are sustainable and can draw 3 movies worth of viewers. The character development in Hobbit, so far, is not as good as in LOTR, but, the action and FX are quite good, the story is worthwhile and my impression of the audience reaction is that they were sorry it was over after 3 hours, so there's a good chance they will come back for two more episodes.

I saw it in 3D with the high frame rate and have to admit that I'm not a big fan of 3D. Like all other 3D movies I have seen, I found the image sharpness and brightness to be somewhat less than what I expect in 2D, so I don't think seeing it in 3D is necessarily a requirement.

 

[monkish54]

Has anyone watched it yet at the higher frame rate?

Yes. I went to the Arclight out here in LA. The video was spectacular, and the audio was AMAZING. The movie...eh.

 

[3db]

Yes. I went to the Arclight out here in LA. The video was spectacular, and the audio was AMAZING. The movie...eh.

excellent. I'll see it in 3D here at my local theater but I doubt I will be getting the 48P at this local screening.

 

[monkish54]

excellent. I'll see it in 3D here at my local theater but I doubt I will be getting the 48P at this local screening.

Honestly, I went to see it for Atmos.

My TV is not very good, so 90% of TVs look good compared to my reference! Take my "spectacular" with a grain of "his TV is ****" salt!

The audio was worth the $18 I payed to see the movie. In one scene a character walks into a room off to the side, and for the first time it actually sounded like the character was "placed" where he should be (least as off camera goes..). That was when the smile hit and I knew I would enjoy the next ~3 hours.

If the theater didn't have Atmos, I would have been very sad I saw The Hobbit instead of Lincoln!