AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
ATI is related to Harman? You need to start taking those memory augmentation meds again.
ATI makes amps for Lexicon, JBL, Mark Levinson, etc.

They're not blood relatives- just in-laws. :D

Harman (and twenty other amp companies) love ATI. :D
 
panteragstk

panteragstk

Audioholic Warlord
Well, I take back what I said. Glad this was handled properly. They've got my business when the time comes.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Yeah, I knew of Adam's dilemma years ago with Emo and I went and ordered a stereo amp anyway, arrived with blown right channel out of the box, same day they had a replacement on the way and a prepaid return shipping label for the defective amp. I thought they had great CS, but what do I know.:D I do know that I'm happy with Crown amps;) Thanks ADTG:) now I have to join the the ATI camp:D
Maybe it's just luck of the draw, depends on who you get to talk to.
 
ahblaza

ahblaza

Audioholic Field Marshall
Maybe it's just luck of the draw, depends on who you get to talk to.
So true Slipp, I didn't even get the words out of my mouth "defec..." and the guy said I will have one on the truck today, matter of fact I got the replacement before I returned the defective amp. I guess I got lucky, I sold it a year later for what I payed for it, they do have a good resale value.:)
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
OK, I want to address this subject directly.

We do indeed have a "satisfaction guaranteed" policy, and the vast majority of our customers are quite satisfied with the level of service we provide (along with our product performance, quality, and pricing).

Anyone who isn't satisfied with any of our products for any reason is free to return it within 30 days for a full refund;

Just speaking as a normal Joe and an owner of a Company myself:

I shipped out a door controller setup ($969) that failed in the field for my customer out of the box.

I sent him another $969 controller with 2nd day shipping (I offered overnight but they didn't need it) and included a pre-paid shipping label for the defective unit to come back on.

There shouldn't be any shipping involved for DOA on behalf of the customer.

If Satisfaction Guaranteed simply equals send it back on your dime for a refund in case of DOA I would put an Asterisk next to that phrase.

A 2nd more recent incident for me: I normally don't setup computers for customers anymore. Really don't care to do it. But occasionally I get a customer that just can't find competent help.

So I get three Lenovo Q180's (there was a thread about it that I posted here). With the default Realtek NIC driver a whopping 16K second file transfer rate over the wire (only CIFS is effected other protocols were fine). So I figure this out (thanks BSA!) and I update the drivers. BAM it breaks the CC processing.

No cost to the customer I order 3 barebones systems and build them (like I did their demo machine) and ship them out. Shipping back on the Lenovo's is on us. We are eating $1K of machines. I'll take it up with Lenovo. We are upside down on this customer at this point. We dont' care. The customer will not suffer through our actions. PERIOD.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Did you tell everyone on the forum about your bad Emotiva experience before you took the 6 months leave?
I can't recall how much I said before I left - I think that I spoke a bit more about it after I came back. I won't rehash my previous posts, but I'll get this off my chest. One of my biggest frustrations was that they ignored me. They never told me "no" or anything...they either said that they'd make it right and get back to me and then didn't, or they just ignored me outright. I'm not pushy or confrontational, so I'm not the squeaky wheel - but they knew there was a problem. They also never once (to my recollection) addressed my concerns on this forum. They just ignored them, probably because people were still buying their stuff. I'm actually chuckling at the fact that Keith replied to other posts, but ignored mine. Par for the course. :D (Nothing personal against Keith, btw.)
 
ahblaza

ahblaza

Audioholic Field Marshall
I can't recall how much I said before I left - I think that I spoke a bit more about it after I came back. I won't rehash my previous posts, but I'll get this off my chest. One of my biggest frustrations was that they ignored me. They never told me "no" or anything...they either said that they'd make it right and get back to me and then didn't, or they just ignored me outright. I'm not pushy or confrontational, so I'm not the squeaky wheel - but they knew there was a problem. They also never once (to my recollection) addressed my concerns on this forum. They just ignored them, probably because people were still buying their stuff. I'm actually chuckling at the fact that Keith replied to other posts, but ignored mine. Par for the course. :D (Nothing personal against Keith, btw.)
I never heard of Emo when I contacted you several years ago about your impressions of their amps, ironic that I decided to PM you about EMO, Adam you were the first and only person I asked what you thought of them, that's crazy or fate I don't know, I missed talking with you when you left though, even with all your bad misfortune with EMO you never really bad mouthed them, quite the gentleman you are......:);)
 
Hostility

Hostility

Full Audioholic
Sorry to hear adam, Im about the same, im not much of the pushy type or much of a wheel and dealer on getting things my way. But i think my frustration took over me on this one and made me try and push a little more to have a better end result. Lets just hope they may have learned a little about this experience and hopefully no one has to go through it again...
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Consistency???

The thing that's odd for Hostility and Adam, most reviews on Emotiva C/S is excellent.

It just seems to be hit or miss once in a while for them to screw the pooch.

It's just odd to me that they seem to be inconsistent with their responses. Usually, you expect either a consistently good or bad C/S experience from a company. You know what to expect and are a returning customer, or you avoid them like the plague.

With inconsistency that we've been seeing, it is odd. I would hope that I would get the same response no matter who took my call.

To me, it sounds like Emotiva is lacking in the training department. They need to get their act together and be consistent, no matter who calls or who answers. Inconsistency in one aspect of a business makes you question inconsistencies in other aspects (ie production).
 
Hostility

Hostility

Full Audioholic
Yea I think they need to straighten out their policy and let everyone know. I think it was more of a hassle for me because I live in Canada and the prices increase as it pass's over and I get where they come from, it sucks but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I went to go onto thier warranty page to find out about my issue but its been down. But I told them at the start depending on how the situation turns out is going to tell me if I want to do business with them or not. So after all of it I ordered an xda2 for my pc. Hopefully they will understand that treating customers right the first time will get them farther.

Also thanks for everyone's support on this!
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Yea I think they need to straighten out their policy and let everyone know. I think it was more of a hassle for me because I live in Canada and the prices increase as it pass's over and I get where they come from, it sucks but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. I went to go onto thier warranty page to find out about my issue but its been down. But I told them at the start depending on how the situation turns out is going to tell me if I want to do business with them or not. So after all of it I ordered an xda2 for my pc. Hopefully they will understand that treating customers right the first time will get them farther.

Also thanks for everyone's support on this!
I think you will enjoy the XDA-2
 
Hostility

Hostility

Full Audioholic
I hope so. Tonight i just found out my onboard headphone jack gives off a ton of depth and bass off my pc tower compared to out of my old logitech 4.1. So i cant wait to hear the onboard headphone amp on the xda2!!!
 

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