Win7 Home Premium 64bit P2P networking slow

[jinjuku]

I have three Lenovo Q180 machines.

Peer to peer networking is sloooow between the Win7 machines. But when I hit an XP machine it's quick. This affects the wired ethernet and not the wireless. Wireless is quick.

Wireless is not an option.

Thx

 

[Irvrobinson]

Try this link

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I checked the specs, but I can't find what NIC the pc using...
Try updating nic driver or play with it's settings

 

[Irvrobinson]

I checked the specs, but I can't find what NIC the pc using...
Try updating nic driver or play with it's settings

It's probably Intel's chipset-integrated 10/100 MAC.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

It's probably Intel's chipset-integrated 10/100 MAC.

I'm not so sure, I know it's atom, but something tells me the chipset is amd based... and most likely 100/1000

 

[Irvrobinson]

I'm not so sure, I know it's atom, but something tells me the chipset is amd based... and most likely 100/1000

The specs are vague. The Lenovo site says it supports 1000Mb Ethernet, but it doesn't list a discrete network card for wired, and lists the Broadcom wireless card. You can't have an AMD chipset with Intel CPUs. Intel uses a proprietary link (DMI) to boot from, which means you have to buy their chipset. I was expecting to see a 10/100/1000 PCIe Ethernet controller, but didn't.

 

[jinjuku]

Realtek.... I'm not the only one experiencing this. It's a pretty major issue since these machines are new and stock out of box. I uninstalled the McAfee Suite that came with it. Screw me if I have to perform a system restore prior.

I doubt the article linked is going to help. Lenovo, M$, they all want to charge me $$ for:

A new Win7 machine that connects correctly to a WinXP box with full wire speed but not to another Win7 machine.

I'm an MCSE (NT4 and Win2K), CCNP. I already paid M$ to look into it and 4 hours and they don't know. Internet speed is fine by the way. This is one of M$'s magic protocols gone running amuck.

FTP/HTTP/Old School CIFS works juuuuust fine.

Also the fact last week I had to kill TCP/UDP offload features on a Host NIC to get Windows XP compatibility mode's networking running full speed just further enhanced my belief that we are making the right move in 2013 to totally dump M$.

As a business user I can't stand M$ anymore. As a network engineer I'm not recommending their solutions any more.

 

[Irvrobinson]

Have you seen this?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Realtek.... I'm not the only one experiencing this. It's a pretty major issue since these machines are new and stock out of box. I uninstalled the McAfee Suite that came with it. Screw me if I have to perform a system restore prior.

I doubt the article linked is going to help. Lenovo, M$, they all want to charge me $$ for:

A new Win7 machine that connects correctly to a WinXP box with full wire speed but not to another Win7 machine.

I'm an MCSE (NT4 and Win2K), CCNP. I already paid M$ to look into it and 4 hours and they don't know. Internet speed is fine by the way. This is one of M$'s magic protocols gone running amuck.

FTP/HTTP/Old School CIFS works juuuuust fine.

Also the fact last week I had to kill TCP/UDP offload features on a Host NIC to get Windows XP compatibility mode's networking running full speed just further enhanced my belief that we are making the right move in 2013 to totally dump M$.

As a business user I can't stand M$ anymore. As a network engineer I'm not recommending their solutions any more.

On paper smb2 should be faster...

Here some threads seem relevant to your issue:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?pid=1086280
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=94330


p.s: I make no secret of my profession and I will be first to tell you if not for shitty MS software I won't a bread on my table

If you make something which doesn't break - than why to you need me?

 

[jinjuku]

Have you seen this?

Doesn't explain why wireless networking is functioning properly but worth a shot.

 

[jinjuku]

On paper smb2 should be faster...

Here some threads seem relevant to your issue:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?pid=1086280
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=94330


p.s: I make no secret of my profession and I will be first to tell you if not for shitty MS software I won't a bread on my table

If you make something which doesn't break - than why to you need me?

Trust me rolling back the drivers is on my list of things to try... Thx. There are only so many hours in the day. Also shipping them out some USB to Ethernet adapters is on my list of possible trouble shooting measures.

 

[Irvrobinson]

Doesn't explain why wireless networking is functioning properly but worth a shot.

Nope, it's a shot in the dark. I actually suspect that Realtek Win7 driver more than I do MSFT, but the only way to really know would be to stick in another network card and see if it screws up too.

 

[jinjuku]

Nope, it's a shot in the dark. I actually suspect that Realtek Win7 driver more than I do MSFT, but the only way to really know would be to stick in another network card and see if it screws up too.

Also doesn't explain why the Win7 to XP is functional. I think it's one of M$'s tuning protocols in SMB2. I'll have to find a way to force one of the adapters to SMBv1 and see if that fixes the issue (if that is even possible with Win7).

Realtek drivers in my experience have been solid. I know they are the cheap guy out there but I have used way to many systems with their PHY in it. Not ruling RT out.

Plus M$ has shot itself in the foot too many times with their network layer. They had performance issues with Vista.

I have some USB to Ethernet on their way to the customer anywho...

 

[avnetguy]

Also doesn't explain why the Win7 to XP is functional. I think it's one of M$'s tuning protocols in SMB2. I'll have to find a way to force one of the adapters to SMBv1 and see if that fixes the issue (if that is even possible with Win7).

Mixing W7 and XP does cause SMB issues, seen it myself, albeit with a W2K8R2 server. I believe these are the commands you're looking for,

2.0 OFF
sc config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/nsi
sc config mrxsmb20 start= disabled

2.0 ON
sc config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/mrxsmb20/nsi
sc config mrxsmb20 start= auto

Steve

 

[jinjuku]

SMB wasn't it... It at least turned off all the discover BS.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Can you test it with external usb nic?

 

[jinjuku]

Lol, it was the Realtek driver. With the way it was behaving that was low on my list. But I gave it a whirl since it's quick and its working.

Lenovo is using an early 2011 driver.

 

[jinjuku]

Nope, it's a shot in the dark. I actually suspect that Realtek Win7 driver more than I do MSFT, but the only way to really know would be to stick in another network card and see if it screws up too.

Irv you win the prize. I don't know what that is yet but you earned it

 

[Irvrobinson]

Irv you win the prize. I don't know what that is yet but you earned it

Thanks. I get lucky sometimes.

 

[Irvrobinson]

Oh yeah - I think you owe Microsoft an apology.