marantz VS rotel

[spinacz_nyc]

im wondering if there is a difference of SQ between

Marantz SR9200 ( which i currently own )
Rotel RSX-1560 ( which i have option to buy)

i know there is over 10 years of difference but i dont care about features only quality as an amp.

i have older B&W CM series HT with ADS sub

should i go for rotel or its not worth over marantz

 

[TLS Guy]

im wondering if there is a difference of SQ between

Marantz SR9200 ( which i currently own )
Rotel RSX-1560 ( which i have option to buy)

i know there is over 10 years of difference but i dont care about features only quality as an amp.

i have older B&W CM series HT with ADS sub

should i go for rotel or its not worth over marantz

It is worth it because you can avail yourself of the higher quality newer audio codecs.

Any 10 year old AV receiver is well past its sell by date and likely on borrowed time.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

if you don't your SQ mayhaps you should look into getting different speakers..

 

[spinacz_nyc]

ive compared my marantz to some denon model and even denon with less rms did sound louder, but marantz sound was warmer and sounded richer than denon, similar in comparision with HK, which had flatted mid and low end in comprising.

and speakers, they may not be some great but thats all i had to spend, and compared to different B&Ws, Gallos, JBLs and PSBs and few other brands that im ashamed to mention but CMs, i like them most and the price was right

now in theory i will gain new codecs with rotel but if its all, i dont see that worth spending a penny, if rotel offer better musical performance then i have reason to go for it, unfortunately i cant get both and compare so i gotta ask, that maybe someone had experienced both brands and can tell me difference that he noticed

 

[TLS Guy]

ive compared my marantz to some denon model and even denon with less rms did sound louder, but marantz sound was warmer and sounded richer than denon, similar in comparision with HK, which had flatted mid and low end in comprising.

and speakers, they may not be some great but thats all i had to spend, and compared to different B&Ws, Gallos, JBLs and PSBs and few other brands that im ashamed to mention but CMs, i like them most and the price was right

now in theory i will gain new codecs with rotel but if its all, i dont see that worth spending a penny, if rotel offer better musical performance then i have reason to go for it, unfortunately i cant get both and compare so i gotta ask, that maybe someone had experienced both brands and can tell me difference that he noticed

You have very decent speakers. The B & W CM series are nice speakers. However B & W speakers are always difficult loads and much lower in impedance than specked. The Rotel will give you 200 watts per channel into four ohms. I would bet your Marantz does not deliver its rated output into your speakers.

The better current output, coupled with the newer codecs is well worth the price of admission if you can get that unit at a good price.

I'm serious that the processor in your Marantz is at an age were exponential failure rate of the chips over time will be well on its way. 10 years is old for a unit using microprocessors. These types of units are statistically not as long lived as gear from the analog era.

I would say if the deal is right, you should pick that Rotel unit up.

 

[highfigh]

ive compared my marantz to some denon model and even denon with less rms did sound louder, but marantz sound was warmer and sounded richer than denon, similar in comparision with HK, which had flatted mid and low end in comprising.

and speakers, they may not be some great but thats all i had to spend, and compared to different B&Ws, Gallos, JBLs and PSBs and few other brands that im ashamed to mention but CMs, i like them most and the price was right

now in theory i will gain new codecs with rotel but if its all, i dont see that worth spending a penny, if rotel offer better musical performance then i have reason to go for it, unfortunately i cant get both and compare so i gotta ask, that maybe someone had experienced both brands and can tell me difference that he noticed

You can't possibly know if it sounds louder at any given volume control setting because they're different in how they indicate it and the power output hasn't been established. If they're outputting the same power and one sounds different from the other, either something is wrong or one of them may not be dealing with the load as well as the other.

 

[spinacz_nyc]

to make you feel better denon is rated at 7x100w where marantz is 7x140 and at -25db denon was same loud as marantz at -15db that means much louder at less rated power, but marantz sounded much richer and nicer than denon ( same confirmed friend of mine and we tried few speakers) but its not the case here, i dont care about it and im not asking about that.

im asking how is rotel compares to marantz in sq field, and i need someone who owned those 2 brands

 

[enrique]

Everyone may hear somewhat differently. I'll tell u what i had,but in the end u'll have to decide. I had a marantz sr7000 w/ def. techs,changed to rotel rsx1056 w/same def. techs. Rotel was more neutral sounding to my ears but missed the marantz. Ended up getting some B&W 603s3's with lcr600 center and rotel did fine still neutral. Had issues with the rotel went back to marantz and went with the sr8002 w/same B&W's warmer more robust to my ears.Since changed speakers again. Personally i wish i would of stayed with marantz brand originally. But thats just me. Still have my marantz and going strong.Overall i enjoyed the SQ of the marantz over the Rotel(issues aside).

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

im wondering if there is a difference of SQ between

Marantz SR9200 ( which i currently own )
Rotel RSX-1560 ( which i have option to buy)

i know there is over 10 years of difference but i dont care about features only quality as an amp.

i have older B&W CM series HT with ADS sub

should i go for rotel or its not worth over marantz

If all you care about is the amp, then NO, you most likely won't hear a difference. Especially if you don't use EQ like room corrections, DSPs, etc. If you listen to direct modes, you probably won't hear any differences.

Get the new preamp if you need things like HDMI.

Other features will make some minor differences, but you can probably can do without.

Like DTS-HD & Dolby TrueHD is overrated IMO. Cool, but relatively insignificant IMO.

 

[spinacz_nyc]

thats what i wanted to hear, so im fine with old marantz

 

[PENG]

thats what i wanted to hear, so im fine with old marantz

Good for you!! Yeah everyone hears differently especially those who have previously been told what to expect to hear so in many cases it is just in people's heads though that counts for something too.

 

[j_garcia]

The 9200 is a very stout receiver. Unless it actually DIES, I wouldn't change it out. I am still rocking my 8300 (though all external amplification now) and have no issues with it at all.

 

[mjcmt]

B&W and Rotel is known for its outstanding synergy. I'd consider this combo if I had no way to audition the Marantz/B&W vs. Rotel/B&W combination.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

thats what i wanted to hear, so im fine with old marantz

I think you are absolutely 100% fine with your old Marantz.

Don't waste your money if you don't need those features.

I also think that a lot of companies cut cost by putting their amps on diets. Some older amps may be beefier than some newer ones too.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

B&W and Rotel is known for its outstanding synergy. I'd consider this combo if I had no way to audition the Marantz/B&W vs. Rotel/B&W combination.

I think it's fine for anyone to believe this. It's cool.

I just want to say I don't believe in any synergy stuff. Great amps will be great with any great speakers IMO.

 

[Lulimet]

I just want to say I don't believe in any synergy stuff. Great amps will be great with any great speakers IMO.

Agree. The whole this brand of speaker matches well to this brand of amps is total nonsense. There is no such thing.
A good amp is a good amp and a good speaker is a good speaker.

 

[j_garcia]

I think it's fine for anyone to believe this. It's cool.

I just want to say I don't believe in any synergy stuff. Great amps will be great with any great speakers IMO.

I do believe receivers from certain manufacturers have a sort of "sound signature" to them, and that could theoretically have some influence on overall system sound, but it generally isn't to the point where I would say one brand sounds better with a particular set of speakers.

One of my local B&W dealers carries both Marantz and Rotel and I've heard B&W speakers on both of them. Sounded pretty much the same to me.

 

[mjcmt]

I think it's fine for anyone to believe this. It's cool.

I just want to say I don't believe in any synergy stuff. Great amps will be great with any great speakers IMO.

Spoken like someone who is more into features and specs, doesn't listen with his ears, nor has not heard the potential of a system when components complimenting each other. Your missing out on a great reward.

 

[PENG]

Spoken like someone who is more into features and specs, doesn't listen with his ears, nor has not heard the potential of a system when components complimenting each other. Your missing out on a great reward.

It may be good that one can keep a nice rewarding dream going without waking up but that does not make it reality for others.

Sarcasm aside, am I supposed to go with hearsays or if I go with my ears I should spent hours to listen to different combs by visiting numerous dealers?

 

[mjcmt]

It may be good that one can keep a nice rewarding dream going without waking up but that does not make it reality for others.

Sarcasm aside, am I supposed to go with hearsays or if I go with my ears I should spent hours to listen to different combs by visiting numerous dealers?

I will agree that a dealers showroom is not the best place to listen, but if you haven't heard any differences between systems you may be a candidate for a HTIB system.