Hi all,
Thanks for the input. Yes, I need to run analog to the receiver in order to send a source's audio to other zones. Party Mode will down mix digital to 2ch and send that to all zones, but when I do that I'm forced to 7ch stereo in the main zone.
The receiver's lip sync functionality only delays audio further. My problem is that the digital audio is already delayed too much.
I can live with the fact that the digital version of the audio is not output in sync with the analog version from the same source when listening in other zones. But what I can't live with is that the digital version is NOT in sync with the video from any given source. I have 4 different sources feeding digital and analog audio to the receiver. The analog is always in sync with the video, but the digital is always behind. I can see doors close before I hear it. I can see drum sticks hitting drums/symbols before I hear it.
If I manually set the speaker distances to the max of 80ft., this shortens the audio delay, but it's still not perfect.
My test for perfect was to send the optical audio output from my TV to my receiver and listen to the audio coming out of both my TV's speakers and my receiver's speakers when tuned into an over the air station. One can safely assume the audio coming out of the TV when using the TV's built-in tuner is going to be in perfect sync with the video, right? Well it looks to be in perfect sync to me. But when I turn on the receiver's speakers too, I hear an echo and can hear words and other sounds start in my TV's speakers before I hear them out of the receiver's speakers. So my conclusions is simply that the digital audio is being delayed by the receiver and that there is no way to get perfect lip sync.
I have a CRT HD TV (Sony XBR 960). So I could understand how this wouldn't be a problem for people who send all audio and video signals to the receiver first, and then the video to a flat panel which introduces a video delay of its own. But even with a flat panel, what happens when the TV itself is the source of the audio? The TV is going to output the audio in sync with the video frame currently visible on the display, right? So if the receiver then adds a delay to the audio, you loose sync, right?
All I know is I didn't have this problem with my old Yam HTR-5790. With that receiver, there was little to no discrepency in latency between the digital version and analog version of audio from the same source and lip sync with video was never a problem. But that was stolen and now I need to find a replacement. I thought this receiver would be awesome but this lip sync and digital audio delay is killing me. I just don't understand why these newer receivers do this and how no one else is noticing it as a problem.
I did receive a 2nd RX-A3000 Friday night and it has the same problem. So I guess there is nothing 'broken' on the other unit and it wasn't the firmware update that caused the problem.
I don't have cable or satelite and watch OTA a lot. And with this receiver, I just don't see how I'm supposed to get perfect lip sync when using a TVs built in tuner, whether it's a CRT or flat panel if the receiver is going to introduce a delay on all digital sources. It appears to me that the only way lip sync is possible is to have a flat panel that introduces a video delay of its own and to run all audio and video through the receiver. But this would mean that I can't use the tuner or other sources like Netflix built into a TV.
What am I missing?
Thanks.
