Surge/Conditioner at local hardware store ???

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Seriously, I have no life.
FYI- Lowe's, Home Depot and Menard's aren't "neighborhood hardware stores", they're national/regional chain stores that have put most of the local neighborhood hardware stores out of business.

Never heard of that brand but I rarely shop at Lowe's. It's not worth $60, though.
 
its phillip

its phillip

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You can get good surge protectors on amazon for much less...
 
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westom

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I found this while at my local home improvement center (Lowes)

Has anyone heard of this surge protector/power conditioner?
Show us where it even claims to do any surge protection. Your URL does not even claim protection. Recommended only if word association replaces logic. Surge protector sounds like surge protection. That proves protection?

Take a $3 power strip. Add some ten cent protector parts. Sell it for how much? $60? At what point does the word scam sound relevant? A similar protector circuit also sells in grocery stores for $7.

Monster has a long history of identifying profitable markets. Monster sells an equivalent protector for $150. It also makes no numeric claims for protection.

Lowes sells an effective solution for less than $50 under the Cutler-Hammer (Eaton) name. That means protection even from direct lightning strikes for about $1 per protected appliance. Other also more responsible companies sell what has been proven protection for over 100 years. Including Siemens, Intermatic, General Electric, ABB, Keison, Leviton, and Square D. All companies that any guy would know for responsible products.

No protector does protection. Not one. Nada. Anyone who knows by first learning the will proven science would understand that. Protectors do not do protection. Protectors do what professionals say they must do. For example the NIST (a US government research agency that studies this stuff):
> You cannot really suppress a surge altogether, nor "arrest" it. What these protective
> devices do is neither suppress nor arrest a surge, but simply divert it to ground,
> where it can do no harm.

Divert it to the only item that absorbs hundreds of thousands of joules. Single point earth ground. 'Whole house' protectors from responsible companies do that. Your protector claims to somehow stop what three miles of sky could not. Somehow will make hundreds of thousands of joules just magically disappear. And it costs about $60 per protected appliance! At what point does the word scam apply?

Upgrade your earthing to meet and exceed post 1990 National Electrical code. Because that is the protection. Then connect every wire in every incoming cable short to that earth ground. Either directly (cable TV, satellite dish), or via a 'whole house' protector (AC electric, telephone). That you have what is installed even in munitions dumps to have protection that works.

Protection is always about where energy dissipates - which that obscene profit margin will not discuss. And a protector is only as effective as its short (ie 'less than 10 foot') connection to single point earth ground.

No magic box does protection. But magic boxes are most easily sold at 60 times more money to those who want to be scammed. You posted the URL. Read it. It does not even claim effective protection. But it certainly has a healthy profit margin.
 
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JerryLove

JerryLove

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Monster has a long history of identifying profitable markets. Monster sells an equivalent protector for $150. It also makes no numeric claims for protection.
You have a long history of such claims.

http://www.monstercable.com/lit/HTPS_7000_MKII_SIG.pdf
I picked on at random (near top-of-page) Page 33of the PDF

Total Energy Dissipation: 7200 Joules
Clamping Level: >360V @125A
Clamping Response Time: <1ns

Those look like claims and numbers to me.

Since you seem to not know what those things are: here's a simple guide to surge suppression:
http://www.wisconsinpublicservice.com/business/surge_suppression.aspx

Lowes sells an effective solution for less than $50 under the Cutler-Hammer (Eaton) name. That means protection even from direct lightning strikes for about $1 per protected appliance.
But will it survive your own disproof?

http://www.lowes.com/SearchCatalogDisplay?storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&N=0&newSearch=true&Ntt=eaton

"Show us where it even claims to do any surge protection."
 

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