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My builder just gave us bad news that the home we were looking to build on the lot we reserved will not work/ :(

The lot is too small for the home footprint :(

So with that being said, we have to put a different model house on that lot (boo!!).

So I was wondering if you guys think if a good HT is workable with a dimm size of 14' x 11'?

It basically is a 4th bedroom that will be converted into a study. The width will be 11' and the length is 14'. Height it right at 14' (floor to ceiling).


Love to hear any thoughts before we sign the paper work tomorrow. Sorry for the late post, but if anyone can chime in and get some personal opinions, that would be wonderful!!

Also you guys think 7.1 is insane to do in the size room? :eek:

Thanks all
 
XEagleDriver

XEagleDriver

Audioholic Chief
. . . So I was wondering if you guys think if a good HT is workable with a dimm size of 14' x 11'?

It basically is a 4th bedroom that will be converted into a study. The width will be 11' and the length is 14'. Height it right at 14' (floor to ceiling).

Love to hear any thoughts before we sign the paper work tomorrow. Sorry for the late post, but if anyone can chime in and get some personal opinions, that would be wonderful!!

Also you guys think 7.1 is insane to do in the size room? :eek:

Thanks all
Shooter,

11' x 14' is workable depending on how many doors/windows the room has. It could get difficult if there are several entrances into the room, or lots of window limiting your options to set up the theater/speakers.

IMHO 7.1 would be a waste of effort in a room that size.

I am not a projection expert, but if your heart is set on a projection display, I would consult some of the experts here before signing.

Cheers,
XEagleDriver
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
My living room is 11x14. IMHO, I would not consider this large enough for a proper theater. I think it would be ideal for only two good seats, maintaining decent distance from the screen and leaving space at the sides and rear to make surrounds work. Maybe four seats could work if the back row were right up against the back wall but still tight.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
i agree with those guys. you could make it work just fine, wouldn't stop me..
if screen size (large) is of importance to you, do a A/T and you could go big.

can you scrap that lot and get another ? if they sold it to you with the premise that the house you want will fit, and now it doesn't. you should be able to terminate the contract.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
The smaller the room gets, the more I fear bad acoustics. However, since you're building from scratch, I don't worry about this quite as much.

You can build a theater there. The problem with an AT screen could be that you discern its texture from a close distance, with the affordable stuff. There is the expensive stuff that you can't discern until you are very close like a few feet away, but like I said, it's expensive (can't give you a proper figure though), and moreover, the stuff like Screen Excellence is only available through CI avenues, AFAIK.

I can possibly see a 7.1 or 9.1 system if you get away from the back wall by say 5.5' (which has other good acoustic benefits, very good benefits), however, you don't need that big screen anymore. Maybe a 65" plasma instead? Then at 8.5' distance, that is pretty much the spot on point of where you can discern the full 1080p rez with 20/20 vision on a 65".

Otherwise, I bring this build up a lot for a small room on a tiny budget.

Small Budget, Smaller Room HT Conversion
 
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Full Audioholic
Hi all!

Thanks for the feedback. I just got done signing again; THE PAPERWORK on the new house plan! :cool:

I figure that 7.1 would be to extreme. I never made it to over the 5.1 hump, even in my last dedicated HT room.
;)

just-some-guy,
I really do-not want to let this lot go. It's a sweet view of open farm land and this is not something I had in my previous homes, which all my backyard scenery ever was, was a another neighbor back windows or the side of their house. lol

Don't believe me? Look at what I will be looking at when BBQ'ing!! West Texas sun in the evenings!!


This is the last lot like this, so it will have to do. The other lots that are available are not something I want. Example: Driveway goes up a steep incline. I don't want a up hill front yard, backyard, I don't mind it.

jostenmeat,

What is a "AT" screen? I been out of the HT loop for some time and my last DIY screen was 8'x4' that had I think a Behr Silver Screen paint on it with my old Optima 720 DLP projector.

>>>> Now since going forward with a 11'x14' HT room, it will be a perfect square and no high pitch ceiling in there.
There will be one window, which will be behind my head (opposite of my viewing wall). The door will be on the right (when looking @ the screen) side of my TV / screen. So it will not be in the way. Basically it was 4th bd room and I told the builder I want to take out the closet. So it basically is a perfect rectangle :D

Kind of like this:

14'x'11'
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
My builder just gave us bad news that the home we were looking to build on the lot we reserved will not work/ :(

The lot is too small for the home footprint :(

So with that being said, we have to put a different model house on that lot (boo!!).

So I was wondering if you guys think if a good HT is workable with a dimm size of 14' x 11'?

It basically is a 4th bedroom that will be converted into a study. The width will be 11' and the length is 14'. Height it right at 14' (floor to ceiling).


Love to hear any thoughts before we sign the paper work tomorrow. Sorry for the late post, but if anyone can chime in and get some personal opinions, that would be wonderful!!

Also you guys think 7.1 is insane to do in the size room? :eek:

Thanks all
Can't you go to the city's planning committee and ask for a variance? If it's not too much larger, they may grant it, especially if you can't see the difference from the street.

You don't want two room dimensions to be the same. That's a problem as far as standing waves.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Don't believe me? Look at what I will be looking at when BBQ'ing!! West Texas sun in the evenings!!

This is the last lot like this, so it will have to do. The other lots that are available are not something I want. Example: Driveway goes up a steep incline. I don't want a up hill front yard, backyard, I don't mind it.
Wait- you're looking at a lot in West TX and they want to tell you that a slightly larger house is too big???????????
 
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Full Audioholic
Wait- you're looking at a lot in West TX and they want to tell you that a slightly larger house is too big???????????
Lol. No I mean my backyard gets the sun in the evening from the west. lol. I don't live in west Texas. If i did, I shoot myself. ;)
 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
AT = Acoustically Transparent

Seating for how many? What configuration? Single row of seats seems most practical.

You're probably looking at about an 84" - 96" dia. sceen size.
 
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AT = Acoustically Transparent

Seating for how many? What configuration? Single row of seats seems most practical.

You're probably looking at about an 84" - 96" dia. sceen size.
I be happy with 96" :)
I wonder if I can get 120" with the PJ sitting @ 13' back and using some zoom to make it fit. Any idea?

As for seating, it will be 4 people. Just one row and probably one long sofa and a ottoman. :)
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I be happy with 96" :)
I wonder if I can get 120" with the PJ sitting @ 13' back and using some zoom to make it fit. Any idea?
It might work (as long as it's not a DLP here), using the full length of the room of 16'. If you use an AT screen, that automatically means that you need that zoom in a shorter distance.

Best would be to get the PJ first, anyways.

At 13', 120" is a good goal, however, don't do 7.1 then. Honestly, I'd move it up some more so that 120" would have a yet bigger viewing angle, or that I could replicate any angle needed without worry of maxing out zoom. Not to repeat all of the acoustic benefits too.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
what view ? all i see in an unmowed yard with a bunch of poops on it :D:

i used to have my projector 13' from my screen, worked great. it was 3' above me and 1' back. and no, it couldn't be heard, unless i was trying.

anyway. i just thought of this one guys setup. he has a large screen, idk, 140"+.
but he has 3 same bookshelf speakers set just below the screen. awesome looking arrangement ! and i am sure it sounds great. so yes, you can go large without A/T.

and, imho, you can do 7.1-2. though its not needed. i like it though.

is that place going to have a basement ?
 
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what view ? all i see in an unmowed yard with a bunch of poops on it :D:

i used to have my projector 13' from my screen, worked great. it was 3' above me and 1' back. and no, it couldn't be heard, unless i was trying.

anyway. i just thought of this one guys setup. he has a large screen, idk, 140"+.
but he has 3 same bookshelf speakers set just below the screen. awesome looking arrangement ! and i am sure it sounds great. so yes, you can go large without A/T.

and, imho, you can do 7.1-2. though its not needed. i like it though.

is that place going to have a basement ?
Thanks for your input.

As for basement, nope. Texas homes do not have basements due to all the rock below. Very rare to see a home in Central TX that will have a basement.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Thanks for your input.

As for basement, nope. Texas homes do not have basements due to all the rock below. Very rare to see a home in Central TX that will have a basement.
Rock, schmock! You have dynamite? Use it! Live a little.

Actually, if more people in TX and other hot places dug basements, they could use the cooler underground temperatures to cut their cooling bill. While you're at it, you might as well dig deeper and go with geothermal cooling coils.
 
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Full Audioholic
Rock, schmock! You have dynamite? Use it! Live a little.

Actually, if more people in TX and other hot places dug basements, they could use the cooler underground temperatures to cut their cooling bill. While you're at it, you might as well dig deeper and go with geothermal cooling coils.
Right~!! Coming from the mid-west, I hear ya on that!!

But here in TX, the way we stay cool is getting a in ground swimming pool. ;)
 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
120” dia. at what viewing distance? A 110” dia. @ 11’ VD gives you a nice wide 40 degree viewing angle that most PJs can handle at 13’ PD. They can do the 120” @ 13’ if that’s really your pleasure.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Right~!! Coming from the mid-west, I hear ya on that!!

But here in TX, the way we stay cool is getting a in ground swimming pool. ;)
BS- I've been in TX in summer- you have air conditioning, just like the rest of us! :D

What % of the lot can you use for the house?
 
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picture_shooter

Full Audioholic
AC? Oh thats for the wimps!! Including me ;)

I die if there was no ac here. That is why in the summer I like a good full day of movie watching. I miss my old dedicated HT :(:cool:

I'm coming back and even better!!!!!!!!!! :D

BS- I've been in TX in summer- you have air conditioning, just like the rest of us! :D

What % of the lot can you use for the house?
 
Glenn Kuras

Glenn Kuras

Full Audioholic
If it gives you any comfort we have treated 1000s of rooms that size with great results. The key is to bass trap the heck out of it and focus thick panels in areas that help control strong low end nulls and peaks coming off the walls. Generally that is the back wall.
 
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