HSU - VTF-15H - Holy Freakin Moly

[LAB3]

Honestly i dont know how they handle this...Pete at HSU made me a final quote on it and then i will pay shipping and fedex later...2 or 3 weeks later maybe.....

Good move. If claim is needed the insurance check goes to you not the seller.
Learned that one the hard way on anything expensive.

 

[billy p]

Well i tought about it trust me..lol..but still it cost me less then a sub12...a lot less! when i wanna second one...

You won't regret doing what you did....IMO a 15" ported sub should suffice for most people needs...unless, of course you a total bass head....

Good luck with your purchase, hurry up and replace that camera because we'll want pic's......

Bill....

 

[clouso]

You won't regret doing what you did....IMO a 15" ported sub should suffice for moet people...unless, of course you a total bass head....

Good luck with your purchase, hurry up and replace that camera because we'll want pic's......

Bill....

They told me at least a week so....but yes i will post pics...i ordered the satin black since it was 120$ cheaper but as they say black goes with everything lol....i saw pictures of owners and it is a lot shynier then on the HSU website....

 

[KEW]

Congratulations Clouso!
Kind of a shame you won't still have the Seismic12 in house so you can compare them side by side. Hopefully you have a pretty good idea of how hard you were pushing the Seismic12 on DSOTM so you will have a good benchmark for comparison!

 

[clouso]

Congratulations Clouso!
Kind of a shame you won't still have the Seismic12 in house so you can compare them side by side. Hopefully you have a pretty good idea of how hard you were pushing the Seismic12 on DSOTM so you will have a good benchmark for comparison!

well i owned a seismic12 too but if you mean the sub12 yes its the one i sold....i am pretty sure i will notice a big difference....the vtf is a 15 incher....so....

 

[Unobtainium]

well i owned a seismic12 too but if you mean the sub12 yes its the one i sold....i am pretty sure i will notice a big difference....the vtf is a 15 incher....so....

20% larger, with 47% of the power. I think the ported alignment offers more of a hint at an output advantage. As long as my buddy gets one of these, we are going to do a comparison in the future. I expect the 15" ported box to win in output, but at what compromises if any.

 

[clouso]

20% larger, with 47% of the power. I think the ported alignment offers more of a hint at an output advantage. As long as my buddy gets one of these, we are going to do a comparison in the future. I expect the 15" ported box to win in output, but at what compromises if any.

I said it before...the sub12 was is very accurate and clean....i didnt abuse it and i heard the woofer clapping and was botomming out on one tune i heard...just didnt like that...for the rest its the best 12incher i had...

 

[Digi]

All hooked up

Ok - well, it's all hooked up, but I need some help. I had to leave before doing a normal listening test and running through the paces.

So, I'm not getting anything from the sub. The light's on, but it's not getting signal as the auto-on light never goes green. The receiver is setup to "use" sub-1 (it wasn't recognized on the YPAO setup, as well as setting all speakers to large - changed to small now. Any ideas about no signal? I'm ordering another cable to rule that out. I've tried multiple scenarios tv, dvd, etc. but no love yet. I'm hoping it's just a cable, but wondering what else to check that would be common. It did buzz when I pulled out the cable, but can't get it to play (I really hope I didn't break a connection point).

Also, there are two inputs on the back of the sub, but in LFE output mode, you only need to plug into one and no splitter is required.

Any help would be welcome as I'm excited to get home and get it working properly. Btw, the Diana Krall BD sounds awesome, even w/o the sub. The imaging is great as the music fills my rather large, live room. So sparkling clear.

 

[Matt34]

Ok - well, it's all hooked up, but I need some help. I had to leave before doing a normal listening test and running through the paces.

So, I'm not getting anything from the sub. The light's on, but it's not getting signal as the auto-on light never goes green. The receiver is setup to "use" sub-1 (it wasn't recognized on the YPAO setup, as well as setting all speakers to large - changed to small now. Any ideas about no signal? I'm ordering another cable to rule that out. I've tried multiple scenarios tv, dvd, etc. but no love yet. I'm hoping it's just a cable, but wondering what else to check that would be common. It did buzz when I pulled out the cable, but can't get it to play (I really hope I didn't break a connection point).

Also, there are two inputs on the back of the sub, but in LFE output mode, you only need to plug into one and no splitter is required.

Any help would be welcome as I'm excited to get home and get it working properly. Btw, the Diana Krall BD sounds awesome, even w/o the sub. The imaging is great as the music fills my rather large, live room. So sparkling clear.

What did YPAO set your sub level to? Go to the SPEAKER SET-UP menu and turn it up. It might be too low to trip the auto-on in the HSU.

Have you tried the sub in the "on" position?

 

[Digi]

The YPAO didn't even recognize I had a sub hooked up (in auto-on). I did turn to the "on" position with no luck. I did turn up the sub to 3db, which is probably too high, but it didn't have an effect either. I manually turned on the sub in the receiver setup to "use". It does recognize that there is a sub connected (grayed out otherwise, it would seem).

Any other ideas?

What did YPAO set your sub level to? Go to the SPEAKER SET-UP menu and turn it up. It might be too low to trip the auto-on in the HSU.

Have you tried the sub in the "on" position?

 

[clouso]

Ok - well, it's all hooked up, but I need some help. I had to leave before doing a normal listening test and running through the paces.

So, I'm not getting anything from the sub. The light's on, but it's not getting signal as the auto-on light never goes green. The receiver is setup to "use" sub-1 (it wasn't recognized on the YPAO setup, as well as setting all speakers to large - changed to small now. Any ideas about no signal? I'm ordering another cable to rule that out. I've tried multiple scenarios tv, dvd, etc. but no love yet. I'm hoping it's just a cable, but wondering what else to check that would be common. It did buzz when I pulled out the cable, but can't get it to play (I really hope I didn't break a connection point).

Also, there are two inputs on the back of the sub, but in LFE output mode, you only need to plug into one and no splitter is required.

Any help would be welcome as I'm excited to get home and get it working properly. Btw, the Diana Krall BD sounds awesome, even w/o the sub. The imaging is great as the music fills my rather large, live room. So sparkling clear.

what is your volume set at on your sub?..that may sound a stupid question but when on ''auto on off'' the sub needs to get a signal before turning on...if your volume is to low maybe it doesnt get any signal.....just saying...

 

[LAB3]

James and I ran into this on his SVS Ultra he just got from Pdawg. He had to go 80% on the sub volume for his YPAO to even "SEE" a sub was hooked up. I know the book that came with his Yamaha RX-V2065 states a lower seting ...just saying what we figured out after two hours of wanting to pull pur hair out. Digital amp setting on back took a bit to learn how to set it up to. Way different from a BASH amp with knobs to turn.Do get a DB meter as he has two subs (different brands) and we have used the mic and now he has tweaked everything with the meter

 

[Digi]

LAB3/Clouso - Thanks for the good info/thoughts.

On initial YPAO setup, it was a bit confusing as Yamaha says to use max and HSU says to use low volume so went the min. route. So do you think I need to run the YPAO again turning it up to around 80% or so? I did enable it all manually and while playing music, and turned up volume up quite high with nothing. I plan on getting an SPL for complete dial-in. I'll give that a try when I get home. It's driving me crazy not to have it working properly.

James and I ran into this on his SVS Ultra he just got from Pdawg. He had to go 80% on the sub volume for his YPAO to even "SEE" a sub was hooked up. I know the book that came with his Yamaha RX-V2065 states a lower seting ...just saying what we figured out after two hours of wanting to pull pur hair out. Digital amp setting on back took a bit to learn how to set it up to. Way different from a BASH amp with knobs to turn.Do get a DB meter as he has two subs (different brands) and we have used the mic and now he has tweaked everything with the meter

 

[clouso]

LAB3/Clouso - Thanks for the good info/thoughts.

On initial YPAO setup, it was a bit confusing as Yamaha says to use max and HSU says to use low volume so went the min. route. So do you think I need to run the YPAO again turning it up to around 80% or so? I did enable it all manually and while playing music, and turned up volume up quite high with nothing. I plan on getting an SPL for complete dial-in. I'll give that a try when I get home. It's driving me crazy not to have it working properly.

we cant be sure yet but if its not an issue from the sub..it comes either from your receicer...cable...adjustments on your receiver?....when you say ''sub 1'' maybe your receiver is set to the wrong input...try ''sub2'' maybe.....im trying to understand i dont know your receiver.......

 

[AVRat]

Try running from one of the receiver's main L/R pre-outs with the sub's x-over cranked up.

 

[LAB3]

LAB3/Clouso - Thanks for the good info/thoughts.

On initial YPAO setup, it was a bit confusing as Yamaha says to use max and HSU says to use low volume so went the min. route. So do you think I need to run the YPAO again turning it up to around 80% or so? I did enable it all manually and while playing music, and turned up volume up quite high with nothing. I plan on getting an SPL for complete dial-in. I'll give that a try when I get home. It's driving me crazy not to have it working properly.

YES try at least 80% LFE on the YPAO. At least this what we did for the RX-V2065 for it to "SEE" there was a Digital sub hooked up. We turned up the LFE signal on the sub too.... We would run the YPAO with the mic and would not see or test sub tone. Weird as James and I have had several Yamaha AVR with YPAO and the SVS Digital amp needed this signal strength for the system to set and run the program for the sub..We have never had this problem with BASH amp subs Then we used the the DB meter and moved the subs around the room to find the best "FEEL" on movies and tight bass on music. When you get home adjust LFE on AVR and sub and retry YPAO.

 

[FirstReflection]

I would highly recommend that you first want to determine that your HSU VTF-15H is working and that it isn't just a bad amp or something!

To do that, go into your receiver's menu. Set the subwoofer to "Off" or "None" and set the front L/R speakers to "Large".

Disconnect all other speakers.

Run speaker wire from the receiver's L/R Front speaker terminals to the speaker wire inputs on the back of the HSU subwoofer.

Set the cross-over switch on the back of the HSU subwoofer to about 90Hz and "In". Set the volume dial to no more than half-way up. Set the volume on the receiver fairly low. Believe me, if your HSU subwoofer is working, it can get LOUD very quickly!

Play some bass test tones or some bass heavy music.

Just be sure that your subwoofer is working and that it isn't just a blown amp or something!

Once you have confirmed that your subwoofer is outputting sound in this way, THEN you can get to work figuring out why you aren't getting output from the subwoofer with your current connections. It could be a cable problem. It could be the RCA input on the subwoofer. It could be the RCA output on your receiver. It could be a setting in the receiver's menu.

But you just want to be sure that the subwoofer itself is CAPABLE of outputting sound. And using the speaker wire connection, the internal cross-over on the sub and LOW volume is the safest way to do that!

I do NOT recommend the 80% volume dial setting when you aren't even totally sure yet that you don't just have a bad amplifier on your sub. If the sub IS working, you could blow the driver or the amp, cause hearing damage or literally damage some part of your house with the volume dial set up that high!

 

[LAB3]

I would highly recommend that you first want to determine that your HSU VTF-15H is working and that it isn't just a bad amp or something!

To do that, go into your receiver's menu. Set the subwoofer to "Off" or "None" and set the front L/R speakers to "Large".

Disconnect all other speakers.

Run speaker wire from the receiver's L/R Front speaker terminals to the speaker wire inputs on the back of the HSU subwoofer.

Set the cross-over switch on the back of the HSU subwoofer to about 90Hz and "In". Set the volume dial to no more than half-way up. Set the volume on the receiver fairly low. Believe me, if your HSU subwoofer is working, it can get LOUD very quickly!

Play some bass test tones or some bass heavy music.

Just be sure that your subwoofer is working and that it isn't just a blown amp or something!

Once you have confirmed that your subwoofer is outputting sound in this way, THEN you can get to work figuring out why you aren't getting output from the subwoofer with your current connections. It could be a cable problem. It could be the RCA input on the subwoofer. It could be the RCA output on your receiver. It could be a setting in the receiver's menu.

But you just want to be sure that the subwoofer itself is CAPABLE of outputting sound. And using the speaker wire connection, the internal cross-over on the sub and LOW volume is the safest way to do that!

I do NOT recommend the 80% volume dial setting when you aren't even totally sure yet that you don't just have a bad amplifier on your sub. If the sub IS working, you could blow the driver or the amp, cause hearing damage or literally damage some part of your house with the volume dial set up that high!

The 80% setting was for test tone on Yamaha YPAO "ONLY" good idea to check what you have posted. I thought this was a New Sub. This is how we FINALLY was able set a Yamaha YPAO to SEE a Digital sub and to send ANY signal to it. Do you own a Yamaha AVR?? If so hook up a Digital Sub and don't do what we did. You will see. I am not a expert just saying what it took to make a Yamaha AVR YPAO to set up and play a test tone. My friends other sub is like mine a BASH amp. The YAPO would SEE it every time. We tested the YPAO with one sub or both before we were able to make the mic work on the SVS sub as I posted...... just sayin

 

[Digi]

Very good advice, thanks! Yes, it is an Yamaha AVR - RX-A3000 and a new sub. What's curious (and not a good practice), when both were turned on, I pulled out the cable out of the sub and did get a quick loud buzz/tone, but will follow your test cases below to get to the exact cause of this. I hoping to rectify this w/o having to send either piece of equipment back, esp. the sub.

The 80% setting was for test tone on Yamaha YPAO "ONLY" good idea to check what you have posted. I thought this was a New Sub. This is how we FINALLY was able set a Yamaha YPAO to SEE a Digital sub and to send ANY signal to it. Do you own a Yamaha AVR?? If so hook up a Digital Sub and don't do what we did. You will see. I am not a expert just saying what it took to make a Yamaha AVR YPAO to set up and play a test tone. My friends other sub is like mine a BASH amp. The YAPO would SEE it every time. We tested the YPAO with one sub or both before we were able to make the mic work on the SVS sub as I posted...... just sayin

I would highly recommend that you first want to determine that your HSU VTF-15H is working and that it isn't just a bad amp or something!

To do that, go into your receiver's menu. Set the subwoofer to "Off" or "None" and set the front L/R speakers to "Large".

Disconnect all other speakers.

Run speaker wire from the receiver's L/R Front speaker terminals to the speaker wire inputs on the back of the HSU subwoofer.

Set the cross-over switch on the back of the HSU subwoofer to about 90Hz and "In". Set the volume dial to no more than half-way up. Set the volume on the receiver fairly low. Believe me, if your HSU subwoofer is working, it can get LOUD very quickly!

Play some bass test tones or some bass heavy music.

Just be sure that your subwoofer is working and that it isn't just a blown amp or something!

Once you have confirmed that your subwoofer is outputting sound in this way, THEN you can get to work figuring out why you aren't getting output from the subwoofer with your current connections. It could be a cable problem. It could be the RCA input on the subwoofer. It could be the RCA output on your receiver. It could be a setting in the receiver's menu.

But you just want to be sure that the subwoofer itself is CAPABLE of outputting sound. And using the speaker wire connection, the internal cross-over on the sub and LOW volume is the safest way to do that!

I do NOT recommend the 80% volume dial setting when you aren't even totally sure yet that you don't just have a bad amplifier on your sub. If the sub IS working, you could blow the driver or the amp, cause hearing damage or literally damage some part of your house with the volume dial set up that high!

 

[clouso]

Very good advice, thanks! Yes, it is an Yamaha AVR - RX-A3000 and a new sub. What's curious (and not a good practice), when both were turned on, I pulled out the cable out of the sub and did get a quick loud buzz/tone, but will follow your test cases below to get to the exact cause of this. I hoping to rectify this w/o having to send either piece of equipment back, esp. the sub.

if you got a buzz sound or what ever when you pulled out the cable from the sub that means the sub gets something of a signal there.....i still think your issue comes from settings on your receiver........