Plasma or LCD selection

[psbfan9]

My situation is a rectangular room about 22L by 18W. A large picture window on the east side of the room and a solid wall on the opposite side with an entry into the kitchen directly opposite where my display and electronics are set up. My problem is, I believe plasma's have a better picture quality than LCd's but from what I have read the plasma's do not do well in bright rooms. Also, with plasma's I have read about burn in. Although this may be a non issue with newer sets.
So, am I locked into a LCD set because of the brightness issue?
How do I separate marketing ploys from real world facts?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh, I'm not looking for a huge screen. 46 inches would be a good fit. My viewing position is about 15 feet from the display.

Thanks!
Barry

 

[psbfan9]

So, the guy at my local BB tells me that for $150.00 they can calibrate the plasma to work in a bright room. I'm considering a Panasonic Viera after having another look at standard and led lcd's. He also told me that I would need to subscribe to my cable companies (AT&T Uverse) high def package to get the same picture I was seeing in the store. I new they ran high def on the displays, but thought I could get by without it. He said that I need the high def, because standard would be stretched too far and may cause burn in. $1000.00 for the monitor, $150 for calibrating and $120 a year for HD. I'm sick of the 'hum' in my tube tv, but damn..........

 

[jostenmeat]

I would be absolutely sure to know what the heck their $150 calibration entails. I want to know the exact colorimeter or spectroradiomter they will use, the specific software, and maybe even ask exactly how much experience the guy will have. Now, I cannot expect the world for $150, not even close, but OTOH I need to know they are still not ripping me off with some super easy dvd calibration or something, I dunno, just being paranoid.

As for HD on the cheap, for now, buy an antenna, an RG6 cable, for the grand total of way less than $100 (maybe even less than $50 depending what you choose). One time purchase equals OTA HD, it's free, and is the best tv signal you can possibly get. I assume that your TV has an ATSC tuner, as I think just about any modern display has them (but not PJs). Only compromise is that it's national networks only, for all intents and purposes.

But even if you do get a cable subscription, when it's NBC, CBS, etc, just flip to OTA for the better signal. As in Olympics, NFL, Final Four, etc.

my 2 cents

 

[psbfan9]

I may be over thinking this. I'm still looking for a new display as the humming/buzzing in my 27" Sharp CRT is becoming unbearable. I know most of you are fans of the Panasonic Plasma's, but what about other makers plasma sets? It's getting harder to get good information, even here at Audiholics they don't really get into displays much. Hence the AUDIO in Audioholics...

I think that I'll get better picture with a plasma, but I have bright room, and reports of buzzing/humming, which why I'm getting rid my old tv, is something to consider. Also the Vizio LCD's look pretty good.

Any thoughts would be appreciated, but I guess it comes down to personal preference and what I, by I, I mean my wife, likes best.

Thanks.
Barry

 

[LAB3]

My situation is a rectangular room about 22L by 18W. A large picture window on the east side of the room and a solid wall on the opposite side with an entry into the kitchen directly opposite where my display and electronics are set up. My problem is, I believe plasma's have a better picture quality than LCd's but from what I have read the plasma's do not do well in bright rooms. Also, with plasma's I have read about burn in. Although this may be a non issue with newer sets.
So, am I locked into a LCD set because of the brightness issue?
How do I separate marketing ploys from real world facts?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh, I'm not looking for a huge screen. 46 inches would be a good fit. My viewing position is about 15 feet from the display.

Thanks!
Barry

Plasma or LCD..... I had the same question and went with a 46" Plasma only to have it fail in less then one year. Samsung 2 weeks later gave me store credit rather then repairing it. I now have a Toshiba LCD 55" Regza and so far I like it and does not run so HOT. My viewing position is about 9 feet small den. I am glad I added a few extra $$ and got a 55".

 

[jostenmeat]

I may be over thinking this. I'm still looking for a new display as the humming/buzzing in my 27" Sharp CRT is becoming unbearable. I know most of you are fans of the Panasonic Plasma's, but what about other makers plasma sets? It's getting harder to get good information, even here at Audiholics they don't really get into displays much. Hence the AUDIO in Audioholics...

Patrukas listed CR reliability recently:

Flat panel TVs LCD's reliability (Repairs and Serious Problems):

Panasonic 2 %
Sanyo 2 %
Sylvania 2 %
Sony 3 %
JVC 3 %
Vizio 3 %
Sharp 3 %
Emerson 3 %
LG 3 %
Insignia 4 %
Toshiba 4 %
Magnavox 4 %
Philips 4 %
ViewSonic 4 %
Samsung 4 %
Westinghouse 8 %
Polaroid 10 %
Mitsubishi 12 %

Reliability for Plasmas Tv's (Repairs and Serious Problems):

Panasonic 3 %
Samsung 5 %
LG 6 %

I think that I'll get better picture with a plasma, but I have bright room, and reports of buzzing/humming, which why I'm getting rid my old tv, is something to consider. Also the Vizio LCD's look pretty good.

I think I heard someone saying that even the best Pioneers make more noise than Panasonics. If you go with LCD for glare issues, just make sure you pick wisely, because some of them do worse than plasmas. However, the best LCDs will have less reflectivity than the best plasmas, I would think.

 

[Bryguy]

I may be over thinking this. I'm still looking for a new display as the humming/buzzing in my 27" Sharp CRT is becoming unbearable. I know most of you are fans of the Panasonic Plasma's, but what about other makers plasma sets? It's getting harder to get good information, even here at Audiholics they don't really get into displays much. Hence the AUDIO in Audioholics...

If you think it's hard getting info hear, try not getting confused and making a decision after hanging out on the AVS Forums.

B.

 

[MDS]

Any time you ask a loaded question like 'which receiver should I buy' or 'which is better - plasma or lcd' you're going to get opinions based soley on the personal experience of the person replying. It is not possible to claim one type is 'best'.

The best you can do is learn the differences between the two types of displays and the relative advantages and disadvantages of both and then make your own decision based on the factors most important to yourself.

 

[Seth=L]

It is not possible to claim one type is 'best'.

Sure it is. Plasmas are superior in image reproduction, yet LCD displays do have a few qualities about them that may fit the person's needs better.

So, the guy at my local BB tells me that for $150.00 they can calibrate the plasma to work in a bright room.

And I feel like I'd be comfortable attempting to adjust it before they do to see if you can save yourself $150. I'm not saying calibration isn't worth investing it, but depending on the application it may not be necessary.

 

[jostenmeat]

If you think it's hard getting info hear, try not getting confused and making a decision after hanging out on the AVS Forums.

B.

I post a lot at AVS too (thousands of posts).

A fair share of the big guns, D-Nice, Kevin Miller, Joe Kane (of DVE and Dalite Affinity fame), etc from AVS had a part in the VE shootout. BTW, Robert is a member here at AH. I don't know how many years they've done this for now, but I believe in the previous one, the Pios were still* best, even as superceded. Well, in 2010 no more Pio, and the ordering as post-calibrated . . . the two plasmas finished 1 and 2, LCDs fill up the rest. Just scroll down halfway.

1. Panasonic TC-P58VT25 3D plasma pre/post ISF calibration report

2. Samsung PN58C8000 3D plasma pre/post ISF calibration report

3. LG 55LX9500 3D LCD/LED Edge Lit pre/post ISF calibration report

4. Sony KDL-55NX810 3D LCD/LED Edge Lit pre/post ISF calibration report

5. Samsung UN58C8000 3D LCD/LED Precision Edge Lit pre/post ISF calibration

6. Sharp LC-60LE925UN 3D LCD/LED pre/post ISF calibration report

http://www.valueelectronics.com/

 

[Bryguy]

Any time you ask a loaded question like 'which receiver should I buy' or 'which is better - plasma or lcd' you're going to get opinions based soley on the personal experience of the person replying. It is not possible to claim one type is 'best'.

The best you can do is learn the differences between the two types of displays and the relative advantages and disadvantages of both and then make your own decision based on the factors most important to yourself.

I've been on there, too, for several years and you don't even have to ask a loaded question, all you have to do is name a brand (not even a technology) and it only takes a very shortwhile for things and arguments to heat up.

B.

 

[MDS]

Sure it is. Plasmas are superior in image reproduction, yet LCD displays do have a few qualities about them that may fit the person's needs better.

Exactly.

Plasma is 'best' for image reproduction although outside of ISF techs and maybe video fanatics that watch the picture and not the movie, the vast majority of people can't tell the difference.

Plasma is worst for size vs weight.
Plasma is worst for bright images in a sun lit room.
Plasma is worst for heat generation.
Plasma is worst for electricity consumption.

Plasma sure sounds like a winner to me.

Full disclosure: I have a Toshiba 52" LCD and I think it is just fine.

 

[LAB3]

I've been on there, too, for several years and you don't even have to ask a loaded question, all you have to do is name a brand (not even a technology) and it only takes a very shortwhile for things and arguments to heat up.

B.

Save your money and read a book. j/k what ever you purchase get the extended warranty.

 

[psbfan9]

Pulled the trigger

I just got an LG 47Ld650. This is a monster compared to my 27" CRT. I'll be getting it hooked up and tweaked over the weekend.

NetCast Entertainment Access (Wi-Fi Ready)
Wireless 1080p Ready
TruMotion 240Hz
Full HD 1080p Resolution
200,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio


Thanks for all the input.

 

[clouso]

Exactly.

Plasma is 'best' for image reproduction although outside of ISF techs and maybe video fanatics that watch the picture and not the movie, the vast majority of people can't tell the difference.

Plasma is worst for size vs weight.
Plasma is worst for bright images in a sun lit room.
Plasma is worst for heat generation.
Plasma is worst for electricity consumption.

Plasma sure sounds like a winner to me.

Full disclosure: I have a Toshiba 52" LCD and I think it is just fine.

weight...who cares its my furniture wich holds it....lights who cares i can also put a plasma on ''torch mode''...the worst for ''all hdtv's''.....heat it heats my house on winter....on the summer have 2 ac's...electricity...if you cant buy an hdtv based on electicity consumption better find another job....better blacks..plasma...better PQ..plasma....better off angle view..plasma...better color accuracy..plasma..well ok..i will stop here...have a good day.

 

[clouso]

I post a lot at AVS too (thousands of posts).

A fair share of the big guns, D-Nice, Kevin Miller, Joe Kane (of DVE and Dalite Affinity fame), etc from AVS had a part in the VE shootout. BTW, Robert is a member here at AH. I don't know how many years they've done this for now, but I believe in the previous one, the Pios were still* best, even as superceded. Well, in 2010 no more Pio, and the ordering as post-calibrated . . . the two plasmas finished 1 and 2, LCDs fill up the rest. Just scroll down halfway.

1. Panasonic TC-P58VT25 3D plasma pre/post ISF calibration report

2. Samsung PN58C8000 3D plasma pre/post ISF calibration report

3. LG 55LX9500 3D LCD/LED Edge Lit pre/post ISF calibration report

4. Sony KDL-55NX810 3D LCD/LED Edge Lit pre/post ISF calibration report

5. Samsung UN58C8000 3D LCD/LED Precision Edge Lit pre/post ISF calibration

6. Sharp LC-60LE925UN 3D LCD/LED pre/post ISF calibration report

http://www.valueelectronics.com/

Yeah i wonder why year after year plasma finish always first on the ''pro'' reviews and why after all those years lcd's led didnt catch them yet......i had ''all'' techs exept OLED and the best i had yet is plasma because it is self light emmiting....sorry but plasma is at least 10 years ahead...wait another 10 years maybe they will get close...but by the time ''IF'' OLED is making it both lcd led and plasma will be outperformed.

 

[clouso]

Plasma or LCD..... I had the same question and went with a 46" Plasma only to have it fail in less then one year. Samsung 2 weeks later gave me store credit rather then repairing it. I now have a Toshiba LCD 55" Regza and so far I like it and does not run so HOT. My viewing position is about 9 feet small den. I am glad I added a few extra $$ and got a 55".

I owned a regza 670u and i am so glad i moved on to plasma....no comparison........

 

[clouso]

My situation is a rectangular room about 22L by 18W. A large picture window on the east side of the room and a solid wall on the opposite side with an entry into the kitchen directly opposite where my display and electronics are set up. My problem is, I believe plasma's have a better picture quality than LCd's but from what I have read the plasma's do not do well in bright rooms. Also, with plasma's I have read about burn in. Although this may be a non issue with newer sets.
So, am I locked into a LCD set because of the brightness issue?
How do I separate marketing ploys from real world facts?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh, I'm not looking for a huge screen. 46 inches would be a good fit. My viewing position is about 15 feet from the display.

Thanks!
Barry

Bright room is myth just like the buzz noise or what ever sound can come out of a plasma....i have a kuro and even if i put my ears on it it doesnt make any buzz or sound....second when i need more light ''output'' i just set it on ''torch mode''...com on now people wake up its 2011....plasma is the best hdtv tech right now and it as been for the last 10 years..........

 

[LAB3]

I owned a regza 670u and i am so glad i moved on to plasma....no comparison........

I am so glad you are happy.............. lets see how long your heater lasts.

Wow triple posting. Opps Edit 4 straight posts. I think everyone knows now your love for a heater/TV j/k

I bet it keeps you feet warm too. just leave it on all winter to heat the house. You can afford the electric bill. I am a poor old Cowboy from Texas, what do I know.

Hey I liked my Plasma picture....... but it lasted only a year.and I have a 4 ton AC and had a pair of 6" fans blowing on it.

I am so Glad I moved on to a larger(non plasma) 55" with extened warranty so a year or two when this one craps out I will replace it too. None of these falt screens will last as long as CRT did back in day. I have Sony CRT in shop that is 20 years old. No way a plasma or a LCD will last that long.

 

[clouso]

I am so glad you are happy.............. lets see how long your heater lasts.

Wow triple posting. I think everyone knows now your love for a heater/TV j/k

I bet it keeps you feet warm too. just leave it on all winter to heat the house. You can afford the electric bill. I am a poor old Cowboy from Texas, what do I know.

Hey I liked my Plasma picture....... but it lasted only a year.and I have a 4 ton AC and had a pair of 6" fans blowing on it.

I am so Glad I moved on to a larger(non plasma) 55" with extened warranty so a year or two when this one craps out I will replace it too. None of these falt screens will last as long as CRT did back in day. I have Sony CRT in shop that is 20 years old. No way a plasma or a LCD will last that long.

All of the above are right.....and im planning to get a bigger plasma cause i love the movie picture like......not a fake and cartoonish picture that led gave me...just saying....oh and i told you before the ''blooming issue'' is far away behind me now....triple posting or no..what ever...i replied to some posts...ppfftt...wanna keep arguing?...