Netflix moving toward streaming only - no mailers

j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
While it is likely that streaming will be the future, it seems that Netflixed once again has mud in their eye when customers find out about it. I am not sure how I feel about this, but I have started streaming much more as well, but I also am one of those people who likes discs at this time. If they improve video and audio quality as well as selection, I might be more inclined to move to streaming completely.

When Netflix started up more than 10 years ago, its sales pitch was pretty simple: Hey, subscribe to us, and we'll mail you DVDs that you can then mail back to us without worrying about any late fees. But as the rental market moves toward online and on-demand models, Netflix's iconic red envelopes may eventually become as antiquated as VHS tapes. Beefing up their streaming business, Netflix has predicted that in about two years their economics will be geared more toward their "Watch Instantly" service than through physical discs. For that to happen, Netflix will have to nudge their DVD-loyal customers to the new platform. And on Monday, the company learned just how hard that may be.

In a seemingly innocent 109-word blog post, Netflix director of product management Jamie Odell announced, "We're removing the 'Add to DVD Queue' option from streaming devices," suggesting that it was being done so that the company "can concentrate on offering you the titles that are available to watch instantly." Granted, the Netflix website still allows DVD queue updating, but this post, dropped on the morning of Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, created an immediate firestorm of comments -- most of them very, very angry.
http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/432-netflix-is-abandoning-dvds-customers-who-prefer-dvds
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
well that just blows chunks :mad:
i don't want to buy a computer just to watch movies. and even with all the disc problems i have been having, i don't see streaming being any more reliable.
 
engtaz

engtaz

Full Audioholic
Problem is they don't stream many of the movies my family wants to watch right now, you have to put a dvd in cue online because they took it away from us on Netflix units. Their getting close to losing my business.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Yes, I believe my thread was first, but more people responded in the other one. Mods please combine :)

Problem is they don't stream many of the movies my family wants to watch right now, you have to put a dvd in cue online because they took it away from us on Netflix units. Their getting close to losing my business.
They are going to phase mailing out from what I can tell, which means the streaming library will grow considerably in that same time period. I have already noticed recently that the number of streaming titles has already been growing. The quality however, still isn't quite at the level that I would like to see for all titles.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
what is this going to do to peoples cables bills. i have a 200g limit. and i understand a movie is over 50g.

netflix is on their way to loosing my money.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
what is this going to do to peoples cables bills. i have a 200g limit. and i understand a movie is over 50g.

netflix is on their way to loosing my money.
BluRay original could get upto 50g, however good quality 720p video with DD 5.1 could be easily squeezed into 4.7g using h.264 codec

Now lets assume lets double the compression and get video result somewhat similar to what youtube calls 720p HD video.
I don't know exact numbers, but I could swear such highly compressed movie shouldn't take more than 2 GBs.

But yea - in general you are right internet caps aiming to kill 3rd party streaming video and designed to lure you back to regular pay-per-view from your cable company...
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
BluRay original could get upto 50g, however good quality 720p video with DD 5.1 could be easily squeezed into 4.7g using h.264 codec

Now lets assume lets double the compression and get video result somewhat similar to what youtube calls 720p HD video.
I don't know exact numbers, but I could swear such highly compressed movie shouldn't take more than 2 GBs.

But yea - in general you are right internet caps aiming to kill 3rd party streaming video and designed to lure you back to regular pay-per-view from your cable company...
50g is the disc size, and the movie doesn't take up the whole thing. Even if it did, that is with 1080p video and high definition audio, neither of which are available to stream via netflix at this point, so I agree with what BoredSys is saying here. The data levels will actually be a lot smaller, but yes it will still definitely affect the amount of data you are pulling down.

The other side to streaming only is you get NO special features and as far as I can tell, no audio options. Whatever they have it stored as is what you get. When you get a disc and the set has 2 or more discs, you miss out on the extras as well. I just watched Despicable Me from Netflix and it said "all bonus features are on disc 2" so I couldn't watch any of them.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Let's hope Blockbuster is still around if Netflix pulls a stunt like this and stop blu-ray mailers.:D
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Let's hope Blockbuster is still around if Netflix pulls a stunt like this and stop blu-ray mailers.:D
They are around, but I guarantee, they will end up doing the same thing. Redbox also announced that streaming would become part of their model as well.
 
H

Hocky

Full Audioholic
Until PQ and AQ meet or exceed bluray, I will not stream.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Until PQ and AQ meet or exceed bluray, I will not stream.
There are other services that are already streaming 1080p. NOBODY streams high def audio, so looks like you will be waiting a LONG time.
 
H

Hocky

Full Audioholic
There are other services that are already streaming 1080p. NOBODY streams high def audio, so looks like you will be waiting a LONG time.
All 1080p is not created equal. No one is streaming BD PQ.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
All 1080p is not created equal. No one is streaming BD PQ.
Even netflix said they will start streaming 720p this year. 720p/1080i for normal viewing is already pretty good, TV shows and such that is. If you want full 1080p, then just go ahead and buy the BDs for now. True 1080p streaming won't be here anytime soon. That's exactly what I do - I stream stuff that doesn't really matter that much to me. When I come across something where I want the whole experience with all the features on the discs, I buy it.
 
H

Hocky

Full Audioholic
That is basically what I do, too. I stream a little bit, but only things like stand up comedy or something like that. I would prefer to be able to stream everything, but I think it will be a few more years before internet connections and compression algorithms catch up to the requirements needed to stream legit high PQ/AQ feeds.

That said, what I REALLY want to see is high pq/aq streams of movies that are currently in theaters. I go to see a lot of movies, but I would rather see them at home. My stuff is better. I would pay $30 to watch a movie one time at home while it is in theaters as long as the quality was right. Someone bring it to market!
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
Even netflix said they will start streaming 720p this year. 720p/1080i for normal viewing is already pretty good, TV shows and such that is. If you want full 1080p, then just go ahead and buy the BDs for now. True 1080p streaming won't be here anytime soon. That's exactly what I do - I stream stuff that doesn't really matter that much to me. When I come across something where I want the whole experience with all the features on the discs, I buy it.
Netflix has been streaming 720p for a while now. It is not, however, up to the quality that one gets from broadcast 720p (though many people watch cable and satellite that also has extra compression instead of watching the superior and FREE HD broadcasts), and the sound is not as good as broadcast TV either. And it is not as reliable, and requires a fast internet connection.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
well, seems to me that this will take a few years to implement. and things will change by then, one way or another(them or me). i will adapt one way or another. but, unless a hard copy goes for around $6, i will not be buying.
 

Latest posts

newsletter

  • RBHsound.com
  • BlueJeansCable.com
  • SVS Sound Subwoofers
  • Experience the Martin Logan Montis
Top