The audibility of interconnects

[pete1]

You need to have a good system ...

i.e. high resolution separates, to hear the differences among cables, whether they're interconnect, speaker or power cables IME. In my current 2-ch system, comprising of Magnepan 3.6 speakers, Odyssey Stratos Extreme monoblocks, Monarchy Audio NM24 pre-amp and Sony NS999ES CDP, I can clearly distinguish the differences in cables, particularly between copper and silver, some are subtle, most are significant. There are quite a few posters who claim "cables are cables" but my actual experience and others have proven otherwise. In contrast, I don't hear any differences among cables via my $400 Yamaha receiver in my HT set up. We all want to get the most performance that our hard earned electronics, particularly high priced ones, are capable of and I believe it's one's loss to not try to extract that performance out because of the "cables are cables" bias. I do agree, however, that, again from experience, some inexpensive cables are capable to produce tremendous musicality.

 

[mtrycrafts]

i.e. high resolution separates, to hear the differences among cables, whether they're interconnect, speaker or power cables IME. .

There is no credible evidence for this claim, none. You may think that you can, but that is just a thinking belief, not a fact for others to take seriously.

 

[GranteedEV]

Interconnects are like....well.. you plug it in nice and tight and hope it doesn't slip out when you're using it. If it does, you wish the male were just a little bit bigger, "average size" at least, or the female were a little bit tighter but it's okay because that's life. You don't want the interconnect cord to be too stiff and noticable all the time, that's why you've got this one, right? When it pops up out of the carpet you can hide it. You really just hope it'll do its job, but sometimes think to yourself that it's insufficient, that the other guy's interconnect has to be better, that's why his system can have such an expansive soundstage that blasts his wife in the face so physically when he turns it up. You wonder if that's why his system has such precise imaging while yours is always so sloppy. How do you get your system to perform like that guy's system? Is it time to get a new interconnect? Is it time to show your wife how the waterfall, impulse response, and off axis response changed with that new interconnect? Or are you stuck with that interconnect for life because some internet website said so? Should you be focused on spending your money on the things that really matter...wireless alternatives to keep your wife happy? Or will you go all out and say to yourself "Today, I bought myself a new interconnect!!! It's longer, thicker, it's deals better with skin effect, and anyone who sees it will know that i've got the best interconnect in town! Even that guy! But they won't see it because it's an interconnect! It's the idea that matters! WHY ISN'T THE WIFE HAPPY WITH IT?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE OLD INTERCONNECT WAS BETTER?"

... stay tuned.

 

[Alex2507]

The wife wants a black interconnect ... should I be worried?

 

[GranteedEV]

The wife wants a black interconnect ... should I be worried?

No, it's only natural! You should be worried when she tells you she wants both at the same time!

Luckily the good fellows at Kimber Kable have ya covered!

http://www.kimber.com/products/interconnects/analog/silverstreak/

And yes, she wants the interconnect(s) tangled up like that.

Of course, if you do find one of these in her dedicated listening room, you have right to be suspicious that she's getting way the type of SQ that you can never offer her!

http://www.kimber.com/products/loudspeakercables/select/ks6063

But only if you believe that wires make a difference. Otherwise explain to her that no matter which wire she uses the electrical current flowing through her system is dependant mostly on her system's impedance and you that don't appreciate a woman who doesn't adhere to your opinions on speakers wires. Then dump her after having freaky sex using a cable that doubles as a double dildo. Come on, why else you think people would buy 4 awg speaker wire.

 

[pete1]

There is no credible evidence for this claim, none. You may think that you can, but that is just a thinking belief, not a fact for others to take seriously.

I said "in my experience". If you truly have a high resolution system and don't hear the differences in cables, I suspect either your electronics is flawed or your hearing is not as sensitive as those of us who could hear the differences. But it is ridiculous for you to emphatically state that it "is just a thinking belief" because you're not able to hear what others can.

 

[GranteedEV]

I said "in my experience". If you truly have a high resolution system and don't hear the differences in cables, I suspect either your electronics is flawed or your hearing is not as sensitive as those of us who could hear the differences. But it is ridiculous for you to emphatically state that it "is just a thinking belief" because you're not able to hear what others can.

Apparently your ears are more sensitive transducers than the million dollar calibrated microphones which can't detect any notable sonic differences regardless of the test or measurement resolution.

 

[TLS Guy]

I said "in my experience". If you truly have a high resolution system and don't hear the differences in cables, I suspect either your electronics is flawed or your hearing is not as sensitive as those of us who could hear the differences. But it is ridiculous for you to emphatically state that it "is just a thinking belief" because you're not able to hear what others can.

Why do we have to go through this nonsense again and again! You are plain wrong and that is the end of it.

The onus on you guys is to come up with a credible mechanism for difference in cable that measure the same.

The bottom line is we know how electrons behave in a conductor and you don't. Since you don't know you are easily deluded and scammed. As Peter Walker said so aptly when all this nonsense started: - "Wire is wire."

Yes, we fight this BS very hard here. Why, because we have lots of people who look for the correct scoop and we can help guide them away from spending their hard earned cash on voodoo.

If you don't like this advice there are plenty of Audiophool sites on which you can wax eloquent to your heart's content. You won't get traction here and if you persist you will likely get banned as a troll.

 

[Alex2507]

I suspect either your electronics is flawed or your hearing is not as sensitive as those of us who could hear the differences. But it is ridiculous ...

I suspect you are a troll and would like to welcome you as one.

That way you can join your friends ... but I'll wait.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I said "in my experience". If you truly have a high resolution system and don't hear the differences in cables, I suspect either your electronics is flawed or your hearing is not as sensitive as those of us who could hear the differences. But it is ridiculous for you to emphatically state that it "is just a thinking belief" because you're not able to hear what others can.

Yes, it is your experience. That doesn't make it factual, right? Perhaps your perception is deceived by your brain? Most likely this is the case as there is no evidence that interconnect cables are audibly different themselves, period, NONE.
And since yours is a thinking belief, not credibly demonstrated to be a fact, no one should accept it as a fact, no one. Why should anyone accept your experience as having any meaning to anyone else?