Sound Panels

[Alex2507]

I think that it is only fair that you send me a pair.

Maybe I will.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I think that it is only fair that you send me a pair.

I didn't know you were castrated?

 

[Alex2507]

The Panels in the Wild

A left ...

... and a right.

They're 33.4 lbs a piece and mounted on French cleats. That's just natural stain/sealer on them: no varnish/finish. The weather won't allow for that. I was up half the night scaring up the correct fasteners and laying out where I was going to pre-drill and countersink holes. Now I've been up since 6:00 AM fiddling with getting them assembled and hung.

Even though the cleats are screwed to the stud/s, there are felt pads holding the cleat itself off the wall and there are little felt pads holding the mahogany frame off the wall. I don't know if that counts for anything other than to demonstrate a profound love for the little felt fuzzy wuzzies but there it is.

Cymbals ... I hear cymbals ... like I have never heard cymbals before and I keep hearing this tambourine where there was no tambourine before ... at least not like this. It might just be the McGurk Effect but I here Fah, Fah Fooey.

 

[walter duque]

Great job Alex. I wonder what they would do for my system?

 

[Alex2507]

Great job Alex. I wonder what they would do for my system?

They would put the fire back in your speakers.

You got the insulation. Start banging boards together.

Actually Ready Acoustics sells bags for them that you can hang on the wall to experiment with.
It's worth it just for the fabric.

 

[STRONGBADF1]

They look very nice, Alex.

I sense a marathon session of "Money for Nothing" coming on!

 

[Alex2507]

I sense a marathon session of "Money for Nothing" coming on!

That was two days ago when I gave the panels a dry run in there current location ... and I guess I might have played it 6 or 7 times today. Hardly a marathon. I don't know why you have to label everything. Seriously the lower treble I guess ... where ever the shimmer in a snare drum happens ... just woke right up and it sounds nice.

Keep in mind that this system sounds terrible until the gains and crossover points get adjusted and lots of love went into the speaker cabinet assembly and even the positioning of the crossover's inductor coils yada yada yada. If I had ever done the Dennis Murphy mod on these BR-1's you never get me to shut up about it.

I just gave Venus Hum's vocal cords a listen in here, then in the living room and then back in here. It's not as much fun as a bar fight with a hooker but you have to slow down sometime.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Cymbals ... I hear cymbals ... like I have never heard cymbals before and I keep hearing this tambourine where there was no tambourine before ... at least not like this. It might just be the McGurk Effect but I here Fah, Fah Fooey.

This calls for a blind test. You get the easy part - just sit in the listening position (blindfolded), while you get some poor shmuck to put up/take down the treatments and repeat the same music over and over and over....

Then let us know how it went. If you aren't going to work on that component stand, it's the least you can do. I'm waiting........are you done yet?

 

[Alex2507]

This calls for a blind test.

C'mon down ... I'm ready.

 

[Rickster71]

Man Town, I saw it in person... I was there.
Very nice job in that room!
Great job on the panels too.

 

[Alex2507]

Man Town, I saw it in person... I was there.
Very nice job in that room!
Great job on the panels too.

Thanks, I'm thinking of charging admission and giving lessons on how to make a perfectly good room resemble the trunk of a car that was used in a pawn shop robbery.

 

[GO-NAD!]

C'mon down ... I'm ready.

I walked right into that, didn't I....?

 

[Alex2507]

I walked right into that, didn't I....?

Yeah but am I ever glad for the opening. I was dieing to use that pic.

It's odd about the blind testing. The room was work. The panels were work. Re-configuring the gear 7 times was work. Blind testing or even a sighted comparison isn't work I care to part take in due to my belief that my observations are likely meaningless. However once I get on the REW band wagon doing a FR plot @ the listening position w/ and w/out panels both here and in the living room seems worth while.

Right now I have a really strong urge to elevate my speakers a few inches.
Eddie has some 2" thick solid Mahogany ... you get the picture.

 

[Swerd]

Yeah but am I ever glad for the opening. I was dieing to use that pic.

It's odd about the blind testing. The room was work. The panels were work. Re-configuring the gear 7 times was work. Blind testing or even a sighted comparison isn't work I care to part take in due to my belief that my observations are likely meaningless. However once I get on the REW band wagon doing a FR plot @ the listening position w/ and w/out panels both here and in the living room seems worth while.

Right now I have a really strong urge to elevate my speakers a few inches.
Eddie has some 2" thick solid Mahogany ... you get the picture.

Alex - Nice job on the mahogany frames of your sound panels. I don't care what they sound like, they look good. Just a simple boiled linseed oil wipe on finish (like Watco Danish Oil) makes mahogany look great. Is that what you used?

Maybe you should do blind testing to compare the sound absorbtion you get with mahogany frames finished with penetrating oil vs. frames finished with audiophile grade lacquer. Experts agree, if you have state-of-the-art tube preamp and amp gear, you can easily hear the difference .

 

[sawzalot]

Excellent panel builds Alex, they look fantastic and I am very pleased to know that they truly enhance your SQ, Mantown is my "Fantasy Island" smiles everyone, I must finish something around here as well, thanks for the incentive, again

 

[Alex2507]

Just a simple boiled linseed oil wipe on finish (like Watco Danish Oil) makes mahogany look great. Is that what you used?

I'm not a big fan of oil finishes. I've had 'em bleed out on me and I've seen it recommended that oil finishes be reapplied periodically. I'm a huge fan of polyurethane ... especially the floor grade one but shellac is peaking my interest because you don't have to sand in between coats.

For now all I used is this ...

I am very pleased to know that they truly enhance your SQ, ...I must finish something around here as well, thanks for the incentive, again

I think we're sort of helping each other keep from letting time go to waste. The claims of SQ improvements ought to be taken with a grain of salt. Consider the source of the claims.

 

[STRONGBADF1]

Excellent panel builds Alex, they look fantastic and I am very pleased to know that they truly enhance your SQ, Mantown is my "Fantasy Island" smiles everyone, I must finish something around here as well, thanks for the incentive, again

"smiles everyone" -too funny!


Yes...I'm a simpleton.

 

[Shock]

1972 called, they want their fabric back.

Now make me 4.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Yeah but am I ever glad for the opening. I was dieing to use that pic.

It's odd about the blind testing. The room was work. The panels were work. Re-configuring the gear 7 times was work. Blind testing or even a sighted comparison isn't work I care to part take in due to my belief that my observations are likely meaningless. However once I get on the REW band wagon doing a FR plot @ the listening position w/ and w/out panels both here and in the living room seems worth while.

Right now I have a really strong urge to elevate my speakers a few inches.
Eddie has some 2" thick solid Mahogany ... you get the picture.

Yeah, the REW method would probably be best. Too bad I'm too stupid to figure that program out. Besides, you probably couldn't mount/remove the panels fast enough to make reliable comparisons.

 

[lsiberian]

Maybe I'll do something this week in honor of Alex. If he does something I normally must do something.

I've been so lazy my excuse is I need the amps and crossovers. No more monkeying around I need to get something done.