CEDIA Bashes CA Ruling on Big TVs... So Do We

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Seriously, I have no life.
What CA should do is compare the before/after energy consumption for the people who buy these. If the person can prove they are keeping their use in line with some simple guidelines, they don't pay extra. If the user is smart, they'll conserve in some areas to allow their use to decrease or remain constant.
 
MapleSyrup

MapleSyrup

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What CA should do is compare the before/after energy consumption for the people who buy these. If the person can prove they are keeping their use in line with some simple guidelines, they don't pay extra. If the user is smart, they'll conserve in some areas to allow their use to decrease or remain constant.
Actually, what California should do is allow consumers to buy whatever television they want and to alow energy companies to, well, develope energy from their state. This is not complicated.
 
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jotham

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You guys are just jealous :)

As a native Californian, I will be the first to suggest that the state does some incredibly stupid things (Prop. 13) but I really question the spirit of this diatribe.

I'm hearing two things:
1. California is stupid for putting in this legislation which will lose money and is pretty easy to circumvent anyhow.
2. California is stupid because existing standards will be more restrictive than this law anyhow.

Seriously people, get a life! The fact is that they are trying anything they can think of to minimize energy demand given the millions of people who live here. Some will be dumb but some will force industry to do the right thing that responsible manufacturers already do. It's called experimentation and it's what Californians do on a daily basis (don't take that the wrong way :D )

Secondly, we all know that where California goes, the rest of the nation follows (eventually). We heard this refrain with Clean Air, automobiles, and it's an old argument. Some manufacturers will make 49 state models but eventually, they will converge until it's a 50 state model.

If you don't live in CA, don't sweat it, you'll be fine. Stop worrying about us and take care of your own state. We have enough problems to deal with here without the noise from outside :)


BTW, I didn't want to get into some sort of CA vs. the rest of the US debate but that is the meat of what I was getting from the editorial. The actual technical and economic substance was light and so easily refuted it was kinda a waste of time.

Technical - they'll solve it or cut that particular line. Plasma may have more work than others
Economic - They'll either adapt or go out of business while competitor pick up the slack.
Political - CA lawmakers are lame. No disagreement there.
 
MapleSyrup

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el celoso jotham

This will perhaps be my last comment in this thread.

With all due respect, what's silly are the comments here that all is well in California and with personal lives. That what California will do is raise the standard of responsibility. This, despite the fact that the California stste government is utterly irresponsible in their own duties.

You declare Prop 13 as stupid and thus you present yourself as a person who believes your state government should take more money directly from your pocket. So you're OK with empowering a group of people who are stupid with your own money? And these same stupid people wll create a state of responsibility from maufacturers all the while run their scandoluous retirement pension program for state workers?

Tell me, why is it that it's up to the manufacturers to be responsible when the government of California and its people are so wreckless in limiting themselves to their own resources? Why is reducing energy consumption California's answer to the state's self-made energy crisis?

Traffic, pollution, high unemployment, still expensive housing, overpopulation, high taxes, are some of the reasons why so many Californians are choosing to move to other States. Here are some articles showing how bad things are in the Golden State and how much worse they will get.
LINK

How is increasing the scope and size of your state's government going to solve anything when it's the source of many of California's state polemic troubles? Come to think of it, won't allowing people to flee the state reduce overall energy conmsumption? Sounds like a win for your state.

The founders of Texas set up the state's legislature to meet only every other year and for only a few months during that year. Their reasoning was that the less they can meet, the less damage they can do to the state. How wise they were. Although Texas is in desparate need for its own Propositon 13 (you know, that stupid property tax reduction thing), there's no state income tax and people are coming here as quickly as others are getting out of the Sunshine State. In fact, Chicago is the nation's third most populated; Houston the nation's fourth. I would not be surprised that those numbers flip within ten years.

Big government and individual freedom cannot co-exist. One naturally shoves the other out of its way. Same goes for individual standards of living. To maintain a high standard of living, individuals must be free to innovate and develope. Government tends to get in the way of that. It's silly to be of the mindset that increasing government regulation will raise the standard, and quality, of living.

While California goes to the clunker, becomnes nothing more than a subsidy of the federal government, I'll be glad to allow Texas to lead the nation's way in creating and maintaining individual freedom and fiscal prosperity. That will be done by reducing taxes and allowing people to develope and prosper, particularly in the development of energy. Keep the state government small and let people be free to innovate and control their own property.

It's weird to me that no one here who is a proponent to California's anti-plasma TV policy has ever presented any reason that energy consumption should, let alone must, be reduced in California. And is man's proesperity destroying "Mother Earth", some will do whatever it takes to lead the masses to believe such nonsense; but I don't buy it one bit. In fact, man's prosperity is a blessing ot himself and to all others.

Take care jotham. Happy Thanksgiving.
 
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