tv for bedroom, 42", 46" or 50" panny or other?

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Sounds Good

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I am looking to get a wall mountable tv for my bedroom, at first i was thinking 42" but i dont want to have any regrets. So i started thinking 46" would be plenty, plus when we move and maybe have an extra room or basement it would be perfectly suited for that. Is that size set nuts for a 12'x15' ish room?

Also what brands should i look at? PQ is very important mostly my source will be a dish network single tuner hd box and maybe a BD player when the get cheaper. I like bells and whistles too. :)

some additional info..
i will be using the internal speakers, and the cable run from box to set will be about 20'

After reading around here people seem to like the g10/g15 sets. After looking on pannys website they are giving 200 off their 50" making it less then the 46"

Just looking for some opinions....
 
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MatthewB.

Audioholic General
I have a 12X13' rrom and have a 42" plasma and that to me seems like the perfect size. Any bigger and the TV becomes the focal point of the bedroom and from a decorating stand point, i want it to blend in without becoming too distracting.

Now granted in my great room I have a different view since the only reason I am in this room is to watch movies.
 
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Sounds Good

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I have a 12X13' rrom and have a 42" plasma and that to me seems like the perfect size. Any bigger and the TV becomes the focal point of the bedroom and from a decorating stand point, i want it to blend in without becoming too distracting..
yeah, i think 42" would be fine, but i dont want to think after i get it... i should have spent the little extra for the larger set...

any photos?
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
Determining the correct screen size is just a matter of knowing the distance from your eyes to the screen.

An HD television should occupy no less than 24 degrees of your field of view. SMPTE recommends that it occupy 30 degrees of your field of view. If you want to literally see every detail possible (and you have 20/20 vision), you should opt for a 32 degree field of view. THX says to go with a 36 degree field of view. And a full-sized theater can be a 40 degree field of view, but that is typically based on 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies, which are much wider than HDTV's 16:9 aspect ratio.

So...figure out the distance (in inches) from where your eyes will be to where the TV screen will be. Remember to account for things like the thickness of the wall mount and the thickness of the TV itself.

Take that distance (in inches) and divide it by 2.05. That will give you the minimum screen size that you should consider. Any smaller and you are basically "wasting" having HD resolution. Divide the distance by 1.626 to get the SMPTE recommended size. Divide by 1.52 to get the 32 degree "maximum detail" field of view. Or go right up to THX size by dividing the distance by 1.34.

You will typically find that the screen size is larger than you might have thought. Of course, you can be limited by the available space on your wall or shelf or you can be limited just by aesthetic appeal. But if you really want to know what size TV you SHOULD get, figuring out the distance from eyes to screen and then getting the correct field of view is the way to do it :)

I have a 60" Kuro in my 12' x 14' theater and I sit a mere 7.6 feet away from it. That gives me a 32 degree field of view though, and since I want maximum detail, it's the right size for me :D
 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
Determining the correct screen size is just a matter of knowing the distance from your eyes to the screen.

An HD television should occupy no less than 24 degrees of your field of view. SMPTE recommends that it occupy 30 degrees of your field of view. If you want to literally see every detail possible (and you have 20/20 vision), you should opt for a 32 degree field of view. THX says to go with a 36 degree field of view. And a full-sized theater can be a 40 degree field of view, but that is typically based on 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies, which are much wider than HDTV's 16:9 aspect ratio.

So...figure out the distance (in inches) from where your eyes will be to where the TV screen will be. Remember to account for things like the thickness of the wall mount and the thickness of the TV itself.

Take that distance (in inches) and divide it by 2.05. That will give you the minimum screen size that you should consider. Any smaller and you are basically "wasting" having HD resolution. Divide the distance by 1.626 to get the SMPTE recommended size. Divide by 1.52 to get the 32 degree "maximum detail" field of view. Or go right up to THX size by dividing the distance by 1.34.

You will typically find that the screen size is larger than you might have thought. Of course, you can be limited by the available space on your wall or shelf or you can be limited just by aesthetic appeal. But if you really want to know what size TV you SHOULD get, figuring out the distance from eyes to screen and then getting the correct field of view is the way to do it :)

I have a 60" Kuro in my 12' x 14' theater and I sit a mere 7.6 feet away from it. That gives me a 32 degree field of view though, and since I want maximum detail, it's the right size for me :D

just to add...http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html
 
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Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
my distance is 137". So by that math i should be looking at sets starting at 65"....

i dont really want a set that large in my bedroom or did i budget for one in that price range.

anyone more suggestions? i think wifey and are going to go this evening to BB and look. i noti ed on line they dont list the g10 or g15 sets.
 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
my distance is 137". So by that math i should be looking at sets starting at 65"....

i dont really want a set that large in my bedroom or did i budget for one in that price range.

anyone more suggestions? i think wifey and are going to go this evening to BB and look. i noti ed on line they dont list the g10 or g15 sets.
I'm looking at flatpanels for our bedroom also. We'll be about 14' away and really don't want any thing bigger than a 42" in there so I'm thinking 720p is the smart choice. Why pay more if you can't see it anyway...but the AH in me is still looking at 46" 1080p's.:D


Buy the biggest TV that you can live with aesthetically and then decide on 720p vs 1080p (all within budget of course) is how I'm looking at it. It's a bedroom not a theater...
 
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Buy the biggest TV that you can live with aesthetically and then decide on 720p vs 1080p
i cant say that i totally agree with that...

720, 1080 youd be lying to say you can visually tell the difference... the display resolution is low on my list of features to look at... and after you get to a certain price point 1080 is all thats offered...

although i do agree that you can pick up some KILLER deals on 720 sets now...

that being said, i think i am going to get the panny 50" G10. BB has it on sale now for 1280..

are there better sets, i am sure there is. but considering the 46" S1 is 1299, the g10 is a no brainer

no to start a new post "installing an electrical box mid wall for video, ethernet, and power for wall mount tv"
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
You don't need our opinion on this, you really do just need to answer your own question.

A 65" display is easily acceptable from the viewing distance, but is expensive and overpowering. A 52" display is nice, but perhaps still to large for your room.

I would probably go with a 46" display if you are thinking that you may end up pulling the display from the room at some point, but I would more likely plan to keep the display in the room until it breaks down. So, 46 or 42 is where I would be focussing my attention.

I have a 60" in my family room, a 42" in the bedroom, a 52" in the basement and a 106" projection setup and a 32" display in the kids playroom.

The 32" is to small for the large room, and is more ideal for a smaller bedroom.

The 42" is nice for the master bedroom, but is to small overall. Yet, it is dedicated for that room and I'm happy enough with the size that I am not likely to change it anytime soon. If I were to change it, then it likely would be to 46".

So, if deliberating at all, then I would go with 46". I also would go to a store and stand 12' or so from a 46" display and get a feel for what it will look like. Also look at the 42" and 52". You get a good idea of just how a 46" really isn't that much larger than a 42". Likewise a 52" isn't that much larger than a 46". But, a 52" does appear a good bit larger than a 42" display.

46" really is a pretty happy medium.
 
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Senior Audioholic
i went with the panny 50" G10... primarly because of the price (1280) and also picked up a panny bluray... cant wait to get it all hooked up...

now i just need to research inwall surge protectors... and place an order with blue jeans cables...
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I won't have a tv in the bedroom. But I guess I'm still enjoying the newleywed state. :D

I can't imagine getting a 42" for the bedroom though. That sounds so big. When I was a kid I got a 13" that I still have to this day. I never want to part with it.
 
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ju10503

Junior Audioholic
my opinion is that bedrooms are for sleeping, and, err ..., other forms of entertainment ;)
 
dapack69

dapack69

Senior Audioholic
I have a 47" in my bedroom and I think it fits perfect. Besides during my other marriage I needed a serperate room to watch football on the weekends.
 
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Sounds Good

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i am pretty excited about the panasonic.. i just hooked up the BD player up to a tv and played with the viera cast... its pretty sweet... if i could only figure out how to change the weather channel city/state
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
Congrats! The 50" G10 is a wonderful display! The V10 really only has the advantages of a 96Hz mode for 1080p/24 content and more user picture controls. But without measurement equipment, those extra user controls can't really be properly used anyway. And with a professional ISF calibration, the G10 can look every bit as good and accurate as the V10.

Only the Pioneer Elite Kuro plasmas are outright better. But it honestly isn't much better and they are still quite a bit more expensive than what you paid!

So excellent choice!

And when it comes to the size - I just happen to be really into the full 32 degree field of view :D I was watching a 50" from 8.5 feet away (a little more than a 24 degree field of view) and all I could do was keep thinking how "small" it looked :p Everyone else thought a 50" from 8.5 feet looked huge! lol
 
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MatthewB.

Audioholic General
Actually me and my GF watch the master bedroom setup 90% of the time and the main system the other 10%. The great thing about the bedroom system, is that after work, the GF and I are pretty tired, so we prop up some pillows and kick back in bed and just relax and stretch out and we love it, saving the main system for movie nights making the great room system kind of a special occasion.

Here is the main system.



and the master bedroom system.





 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
i went with the panny 50" G10... primarly because of the price (1280) and also picked up a panny bluray... cant wait to get it all hooked up...

now i just need to research inwall surge protectors... and place an order with blue jeans cables...
Congrats!:)
 
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Sounds Good

Senior Audioholic
Congrats!:)
now i just have to get a hold of an electrician to get some outlets installed....

any tips on how to wall mount these big panels? i bought a tilting mount to make it easier to get behind it to hook things up...
 
STRONGBADF1

STRONGBADF1

Audioholic Spartan
now i just have to get a hold of an electrician to get some outlets installed....

any tips on how to wall mount these big panels? i bought a tilting mount to make it easier to get behind it to hook things up...
Nope...but I don't think it will be to difficult.
 
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MatthewB.

Audioholic General
Get yourself a stud finder and drill and the mounting bracket should be adjustable to fit where the screw holes you drilled are. If for some reason it is not (which I would find hard to fathom) then mount two 2x4's behind the mount and attach the 2x4's to the studs and attach the mount to the 2x4's. But you shold be fine using just a drill, stud finder, screwdriver and a good buddy to help you mount and lift the TV.
 

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