Illegal Alien Costume causing uproar.....

sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
I can not understand for the life of me,for what reason, how, and why is an illegal having a voice in a place they shouldn't be any way. Geezu shut em up by sending em back where they belong, their "OWN" country, Oh yeah I want that costume, but not for Halloween, I'll wear it when cutting the grass.I don't think anyone would even notice then. :confused:
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
If they don't like it, tell them to go back to where they came from so they won't be offended.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I can not understand for the life of me,for what reason, how, and why is an illegal having a voice in a place they shouldn't be any way. Geezu shut em up by sending em back where they belong, their "OWN" country, Oh yeah I want that costume, but not for Halloween, I'll wear it when cutting the grass.I don't think anyone would even notice then. :confused:
dunno but you probably enjoy eating the food they picked for you.:D
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
dunno but you probably enjoy eating the food they picked for you.:D
You my friend are right, you dunno, we, my immediate family and some close friends grow mostly all veggies that we enjoy here at home, most fruits and such pretty much come from other countries as it is any way, bananas, figs,and such. I would like to add that if I do find my self in need of some veggie or fruit that was grown in our own country and then harvested by an illegal it certainly doesn't mean that I support them in any way shape or form actually it is beneficial to our country to send them back so that some legal immigrant or otherwise can be working instead and paying taxes to help our economy along.Maybe you really enjoy food picked by the illegals but I don't and will not if I can help it. We always do what we can to do the right thing, as a union worker I despise your comment directed towards me when you have absolutely no idea of our family ideals.

* I enjoy food picked by ME !
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
You my friend are right, you dunno, we, my immediate family and some close friends grow mostly all veggies that we enjoy here at home, most fruits and such pretty much come from other countries as it is any way, bananas, figs,and such. I would like to add that if I do find my self in need of some veggie or fruit that was grown in our own country and then harvested by an illegal it certainly doesn't mean that I support them in any way shape or form actually it is beneficial to our country to send them back so that some legal immigrant or otherwise can be working instead and paying taxes to help our economy along.Maybe you really enjoy food picked by the illegals but I don't and will not if I can help it. We always do what we can to do the right thing, as a union worker I despise your comment directed towards me when you have absolutely no idea of our family ideals.

* I enjoy food picked by ME !
That's great you grow your own food, raise your own livestock, and such. I think that we need more folks like that in our nation. I grew up eating vegetables and fruit we grew. Nothing is like a fresh fig.

Still the idea that we can ship them all back is really crazy. My state's economy would be devastated by this along with the suffering of many children. Most of these folks couldn't get in our country legally because they don't have the funds too. I personally have no issues with illegals, but I guess growing up with friends that were technically illegal changes a person's perspective.
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
That's great you grow your own food, raise your own livestock, and such. I think that we need more folks like that in our nation. I grew up eating vegetables and fruit we grew. Nothing is like a fresh fig.

Still the idea that we can ship them all back is really crazy. My state's economy would be devastated by this along with the suffering of many children. Most of these folks couldn't get in our country legally because they don't have the funds too. I personally have no issues with illegals, but I guess growing up with friends that were technically illegal changes a person's perspective.
Actually it is not so expensive to become a legal alien it just takes hard work and determination but to stay here illegally is just wrong and needs to be addressed.
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
I wish I had gotten the costume before it got yanked :D

Some people really need to get a sense of humor. I remember hearing there was a big uproar over the famous parrot sketch from Monty Python. Seems some animal rights folks didn’t see the humor in smacking around a fake stuffed bird :confused::rolleyes:
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
I want to as the Castro, Think with your dipstick Jimmy, Irish guy.

If someone wacked me with a dipstick like that, he would need surgery to have it removed from where I would put it :mad:

Honestly, I don’t see where those ads prompt anyone to buy their oil
 
R

redass

Junior Audioholic
I can not understand for the life of me,for what reason, how, and why is an illegal having a voice in a place they shouldn't be any way. Geezu shut em up by sending em back where they belong, their "OWN" country, Oh yeah I want that costume, but not for Halloween, I'll wear it when cutting the grass.I don't think anyone would even notice then. :confused:
sort of like how a corporation has a voice in our government and can completely influence the laws of the land when it's not even a friggin' individual with rights... it's because the illegal aliens (and their relatives) have money to spend; even if they aren't particularly wealthy, they have numbers. as long as you have money to spend, you get a place at the dinner table.

the illegal aliens are here because americans want them here for cheap labor, don't kid yourself into thinking they are here for any other reason.
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
Still the idea that we can ship them all back is really crazy. My state's economy would be devastated by this along with the suffering of many children. Most of these folks couldn't get in our country legally because they don't have the funds too. I personally have no issues with illegals, but I guess growing up with friends that were technically illegal changes a person's perspective.
That my friend is called situational integrity, and is fast becoming the new global mindset.

Everyone will be faced with adverse circumstances sometime in their life, its choosing the right thing, even when you know there could be an adverse outcome that shapes this thing called "character".

Sorry, but I'm just sick of the "I broke the law because I want what they have, and I should have it too" mentality. We get what we get in life, be thankful for what you have!

Nice suite by the way!! :) :)
 
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NicolasKL

Full Audioholic
Actually it is not so expensive to become a legal alien it just takes hard work and determination but to stay here illegally is just wrong and needs to be addressed.
http://www.articlesfactory.com/articles/politics/how-to-become-a-legal-immigrant-in-the-us-the-green-card-and-naturalization.html

The process for a foreign citizen to legally acquire a green card and eventually become a legal naturalized citizen of the U.S. is difficult, time consuming, and expensive.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
That my friend is called situational integrity, and is fast becoming the new global mindset.

Everyone will be faced with adverse circumstances sometime in their life, its choosing the right thing, even when you know there could be an adverse outcome that shapes this thing called "character".

Sorry, but I'm just sick of the "I broke the law because I want what they have, and I should have it too" mentality. We get what we get in life, be thankful for what you have!

Nice suite by the way!! :) :)
I understand your position and I know that ours are vastly different. Mine is a global mindset in the sense that I'm a globalized person. What is meant by that statement is that I've lived in a variety of different cultures and observed the benefits and downfalls of their societies. I also view the world as a single community where all of humanity is my responsibility to help.

I am by no means an expert on global dynamics since my experiences where limited to mostly college summers. Still I think my viewpoint doesn't work well with an American conservative. The reality is the Mexicans were in Cali and Arizona before we were, but we took their land by force and through racial discrimination. These things are never mentioned by proponents of the hard-line approach.

Also it's easy to say you wouldn't break the law until you find the law prevents you from feeding your family or keeping them safe. If I lived in Juarez I'd come across too.

Laws mean nothing to a starving unemployed man who can't get work in his own country to feed his family.
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
Thats funny your info says it's time consuming,Big *ing Deal, most things pertaining to a better way of life are in fact time consuming, concerned people sorting out paper work to be sure someone is legal to apply for this that and the other thing is Time Consuming, and why don't you read your own post about these high costs of 450.00 dollars wow that surely will break the bank, if thats what it costs I am 100 % sure that they could save up that amount and work on getting legal and be a contributor to our way of life Taxes and such, time consuming it is as I have first hand knowledge of the process, I realize that there are more fee's to follow after the initial expense but once they got the ball rolling they would work and make money legal like the rest of us.
 
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NicolasKL

Full Audioholic
Thats funny your info says it's time consuming,Big *ing Deal, most things pertaining to a better way of life are in fact time consuming, concerned people sorting out paper work to be sure someone is legal to apply for this that and the other thing is Time Consuming, and why don't you read your own post about these high costs of 450.00 dollars wow that surely will break the bank, if thats what it costs I am 100 % sure that they could save up that amount and work on getting legal and be a contributor to our way of life Taxes and such, time consuming it is as I have first hand knowledge of the process, I realize that there are more fee's to follow after the initial expense but once they got the ball rolling they would work and make money legal like the rest of us.
Maybe you need to read a little more closely, it's more like $890 to $1100 or more before they can legally work in the US. And that's IF they can get a visa number that gets drawn or has immediate family already legally in the US.

Apparently you think that's an easy sum of money for ALL Mexicans to come by, care to share your support for that opinion?
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
Maybe you need to read a little more closely, it's more like $890 to $1100 or more before they can legally work in the US. And that's IF they can get a visa number that gets drawn or has immediate family already legally in the US.

Apparently you think that's an easy sum of money for ALL Mexicans to come by, care to share your support for that opinion?
I dont think it's easy at all and also I know that initial paperwork can be started for 450.00 dollars.
So you are saying if it is too expensive for them to do it legal like you condone the illegals working here any way? I don't and never will simply because I have first hand 1 on 1 knowledge of some very good people that did it the right way , no matter how much it cost, and they also had very low income close to NO income but got the paper work done and now enjoy every day here in our beautiful country, legally !

* Lets get back to the original post in this thread, why should and how could an illegal have a voice about anything in this country when in fact they shouldn't be here !!
 
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NicolasKL

Full Audioholic
I dont think it's easy at all and also I know that initial paperwork can be started for 450.00 dollars.
Initial paperwork doesn't get you a green card, ie, it doesn't get you to the US and working, so you're wrong.

So you are saying if it is too expensive for them to do it legal like you condone the illegals working here any way? I don't and never will simply because I have first hand 1 on 1 knowledge of some very good people that did it the right way , no matter how much it cost, and they also had very low income close to NO income but got the paper work done and now enjoy every day here in our beautiful country, legally !
No, I'm saying exactly what I'm saying, that you're wrong about it being cheap. A thousand bucks is an ENORMOUS sum of money to a Mexican making 53 pesos a day. Not cheap.

Congratulations on your friend, it must be hard to get a thousand dollars with close to no income. Maybe he should write a pamphlet to help other immigrants? What did he do? Save up for 10 years? I know a guy that started a company out of his basement that sold for 50 million dollars. But just because I know that guy I don't expect everyone else to be able to do the same thing.
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
Being a citizen of this country is not a right nor is it our responsibility to the rest of the world to see that every illegal alien achieves a certain way of life because they crossed our border.
 

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