How not to get your *** kicked by the police

darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Darien, I’m not trying to jump on your case, but you admitted yourself that you had done wrong & were cited for it. I’ve also received tickets, but I’ve never contested any of them, nor did I give the officer a hard time – I was in the wrong, I knew it, and I took what I had coming to me – that’s the whole idea - they are law enforcement officers. But hey, if it makes you feel better:

There are good cops
There are bad cops
There are good politicians
There are bad politicians
There are good teachers
There are bad teachers
There are good priests
There are bad priests
There are good drivers
There are bad drivers
There are good soldiers
There are bad soldiers
There are good lawyers
There are bad lawyers…

…there are good people
There are bad people, and no mater what the occupation or situation, all people have flaws and lots of emotions, and sometimes these flaws and emotions come out in good ways, sometimes in bad ways.
ANY cop that writes a ticket for tinted windows, is as A-Hole! Maybe if you have super dark limo tint it's somewhat justified, but gimme a break. Who am I hurting with tinted windows? I had a cop sign off the ticket and he was surprised that I'd been cited in the first place. So I guess he was one of the good ones.

It's the cops that are such ***** that they'll give out a ticket for something as frivilous as tinted windows are what gives cops a bad rap.
 
chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
ANY cop that writes a ticket for tinted windows, is as A-Hole! Maybe if you have super dark limo tint it's somewhat justified, but gimme a break. Who am I hurting with tinted windows? I had a cop sign off the ticket and he was surprised that I'd been cited in the first place. So I guess he was one of the good ones.

It's the cops that are such ***** that they'll give out a ticket for something as frivilous as tinted windows are what gives cops a bad rap.

why is he an A hole for doing his job? i also think you would be suprized that most tint is legally to dark.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
why is he an A hole for doing his job? i also think you would be suprized that most tint is legally to dark.
He's an A-hole because wasting his any my time with something as ridiculous as having tinted windows is stupid. People out there selling drugs, beating their wives and this is what he chooses to waste MY tax money on?!?!? Gimme a break. My issue is not whether having tinted windows is illegal. My issue is that citing someone for something so silly doesn't make sense.

I know what tint is legal, and it's a complete joke. You might as well not even bother.

Bottom line is, a cop that writes a ticket for tinted windows is nothing but a city tax collector with a badge,
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
He's an A-hole because wasting his any my time with something as ridiculous as having tinted windows is stupid. People out there selling drugs, beating their wives and this is what he chooses to waste MY tax money on?!?!? Gimme a break. My issue is not whether having tinted windows is illegal. My issue is that citing someone for something so silly doesn't make sense.

I know what tint is legal, and it's a complete joke. You might as well not even bother.

Bottom line is, a cop that writes a ticket for tinted windows is nothing but a city tax collector with a badge,
Yeah but the dealers have guns and will shoot him, but you will pay the fine in most cases.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Yeah but the dealers have guns and will shoot him, but you will pay the fine in most cases.
LOL

Unfortunately you're right. But I've got in-laws that are cops, so I can just have them write off frivilous tickets like this and then I just have to pay the fee which is like $20. Still bullshit in my opinion.

Was this about public safety or cleaning up the streets? Hell no. It was about filling his quota and making a couple of bucks for the city. Complete BS.
 
chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
do you get caught every time you speed? no, its impossible do you still speed? probably.

it sounds like you know your tint is darker than what is legal.. so you could technically get pulled over for it more.

once i got a ticket for not having a front liscense plate.. but the officer was being nice since I had could not get another speeding ticket .. he gave me a ticket.. it cost me money but it did not cause me to loose my D.L.

I thought he was a decent guy.

heres another question for you..

have you ever driven home just a little tipsy?
 
adwilk

adwilk

Audioholic Ninja
Bottom line is, a cop that writes a ticket for tinted windows is nothing but a city tax collector with a badge,
Tell that to a cop who's been shot walking up on a car with tinted windows. Its for the safety of the officer.

If you must have tented windows, instead of paying the fine, pay for the permit...

It'd suit you well to not speak poorly of those that serve and protect. Those men and women put their life on the line for YOU. You knew the law, you broke it. I fail to see them at fault.
 
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chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
Tell that to a cop who's been shot walking up on a car with tented windows. Its for the safety of the officer.

If you must have tented windows, instead of paying the fine, pay for the permit...

It'd suit you well to not speak poorly of those that serve and protect. Those men and women put their life on the line for YOU. You knew the law, you broke it. I fail to see them at fault.
well said.
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
Tell that to a cop who's been shot walking up on a car with tinted windows. Its for the safety of the officer.

If you must have tented windows, instead of paying the fine, pay for the permit...

It'd suit you well to not speak poorly of those that serve and protect. Those men and women put their life on the line for YOU. You knew the law, you broke it. I fail to see them at fault.
I would have to agree. At what point does a cop stop looking the other way? A gram of crack? 2 grams, 5 grams? 2 MPH over the speed limit? 5, 10,15? Does it make a difference if it’s a highway, city street, family neighborhood? Stealing $1, $10, $100, $100000...Slapping your spouse, punching, kicking, stabbing? 5% light blocked by tint, 15%, 50%…see? Too much room for indecision and interpretation rather than just plain enforcement. If window tint is not legal, it’s not legal for you, for me, for everyone. I’m sure the officer would have rather been busting a drug dealer or “wife beater”, and if a more urgent call came through while he was writing your citation for illegal window tint, he would have left you to your own means and been on his way. That was not the case, he did his job - he enforced a law by re-enforcing to you that something you had done broke a law, and you shouldn’t repeat this offense, nor speed, nor deal drugs, nor steal, nor assault….and on and on.
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
I would have to agree. At what point does a cop stop looking the other way? A gram of crack? 2 grams, 5 grams? 2 MPH over the speed limit? 5, 10,15? Does it make a difference if it’s a highway, city street, family neighborhood? Stealing $1, $10, $100, $100000...Slapping your spouse, punching, kicking, stabbing? 5% light blocked by tint, 15%, 50%…see? Too much room for indecision and interpretation rather than just plain enforcement. If window tint is not legal, it’s not legal for you, for me, for everyone. I’m sure the officer would have rather been busting a drug dealer or “wife beater”, and if a more urgent call came through while he was writing your citation for illegal window tint, he would have left you to your own means and been on his way. That was not the case, he did his job - he enforced a law by re-enforcing to you that something you had done broke a law, and you shouldn’t repeat this offense, nor speed, nor deal drugs, nor steal, nor assault….and on and on.
This was the original point of this thread. There are laws pertaining the use of force by police. Using a tazer, or non-lethal force, has laws, guidelines and restrictions that seem to be ignored or justified by marginally defensible excuses by certain police. Tazing for non-violent, non-compliance is simply ridiculous. Certain police use inappropriate force and use their position or authority to cover it up, excuse it or retroactively justify it. So in response to Craig's post, re: where do we draw the line on illegal behavior by citizens, I respond with the question where do we draw the line on illegal behavior by police? Do we tolerate unjustified beatings and tazings because someone drove too fast, thereby breaking the law? Is it okay for police to use indiscriminate force because being a cop is a dangerous job? Or do we hold them accountable to the letter and intent of the laws that give them authority over citizens and stop excusing and exonerating those officers who use excessive or unjustified force?
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
This was the original point of this thread. There are laws pertaining the use of force by police. Using a tazer, or non-lethal force, has laws, guidelines and restrictions that seem to be ignored or justified by marginally defensible excuses by certain police. Tazing for non-violent, non-compliance is simply ridiculous. Certain police use inappropriate force and use their position or authority to cover it up, excuse it or retroactively justify it. So in response to Craig's post, re: where do we draw the line on illegal behavior by citizens, I respond with the question where do we draw the line on illegal behavior by police? Do we tolerate unjustified beatings and tazings because someone drove too fast, thereby breaking the law? Is it okay for police to use indiscriminate force because being a cop is a dangerous job? Or do we hold them accountable to the letter and intent of the laws that give them authority over citizens and stop excusing and exonerating those officers who use excessive or unjustified force?
Absolutely not. The law is the law and as it applies to everyone, anyone caught breaking the law should be punished accordingly. I’m not saying all police officers are justified in their actions 100% of the time, but neither are all police officers corrupt, or wasting their time for handing out citations for “minor infractions” (that’s my point).
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
This was the original point of this thread. There are laws pertaining the use of force by police. Using a tazer, or non-lethal force, has laws, guidelines and restrictions that seem to be ignored or justified by marginally defensible excuses by certain police. Tazing for non-violent, non-compliance is simply ridiculous. Certain police use inappropriate force and use their position or authority to cover it up, excuse it or retroactively justify it. So in response to Craig's post, re: where do we draw the line on illegal behavior by citizens, I respond with the question where do we draw the line on illegal behavior by police? Do we tolerate unjustified beatings and tazings because someone drove too fast, thereby breaking the law? Is it okay for police to use indiscriminate force because being a cop is a dangerous job? Or do we hold them accountable to the letter and intent of the laws that give them authority over citizens and stop excusing and exonerating those officers who use excessive or unjustified force?
Tazing is supposed to be used only in place of a gun not as a subduing device according the manufacturer. The fact this isn't the case is not good. IMO. But I would rather be tazed than clubbed. Tazing is temporary.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Tell that to a cop who's been shot walking up on a car with tinted windows. Its for the safety of the officer.

If you must have tented windows, instead of paying the fine, pay for the permit...
It'd suit you well to not speak poorly of those that serve and protect. Those men and women put their life on the line for YOU. You knew the law, you broke it. I fail to see them at fault.
I never realized you could get a permit for tinted windows. I'll have to look into that. Thanks for the info.

My tint was 30%. If you don't know how dark that is, it's definitely light enough that you can easily see into the vehicle. I can understand a cop pulling over someone for limo tint. I would see that as dangerous for a police officer.

Sorry, my tint was light enough that it shouldn't have been an issue. And I am basing my hatred of LEO's on my own personal experience. I have been hassled by cops for bullshit reasons on many occasions. Sure, I do the little indiscretions that everyone does. I speed a little, I'll run through a yellow light, I have tinted windows. But I have NEVER been arrested. I've never done or sold a drug. I've never hit my wife. So why are the cops hassling me? I am a MOSTLY law abiding citizen and I pay my taxes. In my experience, LEO's are just guys that are on a power trip and get off on making other people's lives miserable.

Again, this is just my experience. If the rest of you love cops and they all treat you with nothing but respect, then good for you.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Tell that to a cop who's been shot walking up on a car with tinted windows. Its for the safety of the officer.

If you must have tented windows, instead of paying the fine, pay for the permit...

It'd suit you well to not speak poorly of those that serve and protect. Those men and women put their life on the line for YOU. You knew the law, you broke it. I fail to see them at fault.
All right, while researching getting a tint permit, I discovered that every state is allowed to set it's own tint law. The darkness of tint you can have on your windows varies WIDELY from state to state. Arkansas let's you have as dark as 25% on your front windows!!

So if this is really about officer safety, why the variance? Doesn't the sun shine just as bright in Arkansas as it does in California???

Further proof that tint laws are just BS. :mad:
 
adwilk

adwilk

Audioholic Ninja
All right, while researching getting a tint permit, I discovered that every state is allowed to set it's own tint law. The darkness of tint you can have on your windows varies WIDELY from state to state. Arkansas let's you have as dark as 25% on your front windows!!

So if this is really about officer safety, why the variance? Doesn't the sun shine just as bright in Arkansas as it does in California???

Further proof that tint laws are just BS. :mad:
You can call the law whatever you want, I took offense of you bad mouthing the men and women paid to uphold those laws. They're just doing their job dude.
 
chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
try looking into the back of a tinted window (even the lightest tint) and you can not see through it..

in the future if you get pulled over just roll all your windows down and keep your hands on the steering wheel make sure your DL and ins card are handy and not someplace scary to the police while you get it.

as the original posters video was funny but its also true.. use common sense when dealing with police they have a tough job and by nature have to put themselves in dangerous situations daily. I can understand why they might be a little jumpy sometimes.. that movement that seems small and inocent to you looks liek an aggresive move for a weapon by a police officer that just got shot at last month.

remember the story of the woman who got shot reaching for a cell phone?
 
"Bottom line is, a cop that writes a ticket for tinted windows is nothing but a city tax collector with a badge"

Let me fix this for you:

"Bottom line is, a cop has now become nothing but a city tax collector with a badge"

You can't get a cop quickly when you need one... nor do they patrol the streets much in my city. Why? Because they are hiding on the streets with their lights out waiting to give speeding tickets.

They pretty much just respond to crimes now rather than prevent them. And that's when they aren't drumming up revenues thru speeding tickets. If I was running the police department ~50% of the force (minimum) would be walking the beat and patrolling. Sitting in the dark (or on a median) waiting for a speeder is hardly my idea of what law enforcement should be.

It's gotten that State Cops are all but useless now. All they do is generate revenues.
 
R

rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
I'm sick of all the cops assigned to traffic duty. With the stimulus program, a lot of roads are being redone here in MA. Many of the cops are downright rude and some are just hanging around drinking coffee. At least the workers are repairing the road; what's the cop doing there if not directing traffic? I told one this morning to go F himself and it isn't the first time. Let him beat me in full view of dozens of witnesses; I'll get on Larry King, write a book, and retire early in Italy :D
 
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Schupo

Banned
You can call the law whatever you want, I took offense of you bad mouthing the men and women paid to uphold those laws. They're just doing their job dude.
If your job is to enforce unjust laws, why should I respect you?
 

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