Professional Review of Pioneer Elite SC-05!

[Lordoftherings]

Oh Ya! Marantz musical sweet sound.

I'm unable to listen to an Elite Sc-05 or 07 at the present time, will the sound quality equal or surpass the Marantz? I thought my next upgrade would be an sr 8002 though Pioneer has more features is it at the expense of the musical side?

Nope. The Marantz SR8002, now, that's a sweet sounding receiver.
Beats the pants of the Pioneer Elites.

Forget the features, go for the Musical Sound Quality.

Honestly,

Bob

 

[mwils0n]

SC-07 @ 6th Ave. Price Alert

Here's the direct link:

* This Pioneer Elite SC-05 is only $689 at 6th avenue, with make your price method. You just click on the yellow star saying "Price Alert".
Then you put your price ($689) in the "Target Price" box, and your e-mail address, then click on "Submit", voila! They will contact you to confirm that they accepted your offer, and the SC-05 is yours for only $689.
* You might even try for $688.

So you can be on ICE for that nICE prICE.

Bob

P.S. Me personally, for only $200 more ($899), I'll go with the Elite SC-07.

I have been lurking this forum for years but have never joined until now.

Bob,

Do you have a sense of humor that I may be missing <g>. I tried the SC-07 at $899 Price Alert and have heard nothing back (other than the confirmation).
h t t p://www . 6ave . com/shop/product.aspx?sku=ELISC07

Also tried the SC-05 at $689 and again nothing. Have I missed something?

Thank you.
--marc

 

[Lordoftherings]

I have been lurking this forum for years but have never joined until now.

Bob,

Do you have a sense of humor that I may be missing <g>. I tried the SC-07 at $899 Price Alert and have heard nothing back (other than the confirmation).
h t t p://www . 6ave . com/shop/product.aspx?sku=ELISC07

Also tried the SC-05 at $689 and again nothing. Have I missed something?

Thank you.
--marc

Hi Marc, and Welcome to Audioholics HT Forums.

Things changed very fast in this world, sometimes you have to act quickly.

I might have make a small mistake, try Audiogon or Videogon instead.
(But I don't think so, not to my knowledge).

* Ok, I just check the SC-05 (which was $699) at Audiogon, it was now $850 and Sold.
* The SC-07 is still available at Audiogon, but the price went up, from $899 to $1,099.
BUT, it is also available at Videogon RIGHT NOW for $999.99 brand new (was $899 before).
Here: http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1249999099

*** But who knows what tomorrow price will be, that's the name of the game, when a popular model like the Pioneer Elite SC-07 or SC-05 are selling for these low prices.
Remember the Onkyo TX-SR805 and Onkyo TX-SR876?
So, right now my information is 100% accurate, but don't count on it for tomorrow or a week, or a month from now, makes sense to you?

And as far as 6th avenue is concern, a week ago or less, the SC-05 was accepted for $689, and the SC-07 was accepted for $899. Today, who knows...

The SC-05 was indeed accepted for $689. I don't know now, maybe they won't take it. Just try $699.

* When you don't hear back from them, it usually means that your offer was not accepted. Then you have to make a higher offer. The SC-07 offer was indeed accepted for many people at $899.

Note: There is no sense of humor from my part that you are missing, my informations are 99.99% accurate most of the time (unless something change during the course of time delay: from the date of my original post, up to today).

Regards,

Bob

P.S. Marc, you have to realise that my prior post mentioning these prices was from June 15, that's exactly one week ago. Are you going to take me responsible for prices that were available in the past, today?

 

[mwils0n]

Bob,

Thank you for the quick response.

P.S. Marc, you have to realise that my prior post mentioning these prices was from June 15, that's exactly one week ago. Are you going to take me responsible for prices that were available in the past, today?

Maybe it was something in the way I wrote my post (no tone of voice in text); anything with a negative sound was written with tongue in cheek.

I understand that prices can change quickly. I am definitely not holding you responsible (or even remotely irritated ). It was my fault that I missed the price. I simply thought that I was not doing something right. Hence my question, Have I missed something? Yes I did.

I will check the other vendors you mentioned and keep my eye out for some good pricing on the SC-07.

Thank you again.

--marc

 

[Lordoftherings]

No problemo at all.

Bob,

Thank you for the quick response.



Maybe it was something in the way I wrote my post (no tone of voice in text); anything with a negative sound was written with tongue in cheek.

I understand that prices can change quickly. I am definitely not holding you responsible (or even remotely irritated ). It was my fault that I missed the price. I simply thought that I was not doing something right. Hence my question, Have I missed something? Yes I did.

I will check the other vendors you mentioned and keep my eye out for some good pricing on the SC-07.

Thank you again.

--marc

Hi Marc,

Not at all, I'm sorry if you find me direct, but I am. BUT I am perfectly come and at peace, so my tone remains very positive, in case you misunderstand it.

You are also a direct person, right Marc? Admit it.

Direct people, I love it, no bull sh** around, straight to the fact. That's exactly us, Marc. Are you happy to be part of the right side? I sure am.

You're right, the only thing that you miss is the deal, because your timing was a bit off. And that's exactly what I was saying to you, straight one-way and no two ways about it.

You know Marc, just look at the length of my post, and all the effort I put to it for getting you the best info of the moment. And not just that prior post with a bunch ov valuable info for your own benefit, but also each and everyone of my posts for the true constant 120% benefit of each and everyone here at Audioholics, true? I thought so too.

Anytime you have some more question(s), I will always answer them to the best of my knowledge and with that extra edge, because this is who I am.

I only respond to people that I appreciate, and you are one of them, Marc.
And as a matter of fact, I can say that in full honesty and absolute thruth, that all, and I really do mean all (100%, not a single exception) the people here at Audioholics that I met from the very beginning, are simply marvelous all the way around, again, without a single exception.
Now, that's what I call a 100% rating on people friendly attitude here at Audioholics.
Just try to find another audio/video forum with a 100% rating on people great behaviour. I challenge you to find better than right here, right now.

All right, that's about it for now, Marc.

Keep in touch with your search for a great deal, and I'll talk you later.

Best luck,

Bob

P.S. The deal at Videogon for the SC-07 at only $999.99 is a no-brainer, if you want my honest opinion. If you wait, the price will go up, not down. Don't forget, the SC-07 normally retails for $2,200.
The receiver is brand new, and the link is right there, right now.
This is your receiver Marc, it already has your name on it, don't let it slip again. Just click it.
Cheers.

 

[mperfct]

Two Thumbs up for the SC-07. Do it.

 

[gqmagic]

Nope. The Marantz SR8002, now, that's a sweet sounding receiver.
Beats the pants of the Pioneer Elites.

Forget the features, go for the Musical Sound Quality.

Honestly,

Bob

I guess I'm going to wait for the 8002 to come down under 1k, new or refurbed I don't mind, my SR8000 and SR7300 OSE were both refurbed and still going strong.

Thanks

 

[mwils0n]

Bought the SC-07

Well I bought the SC-07 last night on Amazon (seller is Pavilion Electronics), but Fulfilled and Shipped by Amazon for $1100 (~50% off msrp). The one on Videogon was $999 + $70 or-so ground shipping; so not too much difference. The upside is that with my Amazon Prime it only cost $3.99 for overnight shipping; not bad for something that weighs 40 lbs. Overall very happy with the price and the quick ship for almost free.

Can't wait to hook it up tomorrow.

Thank you all for your advice... and encouragement to spend my money ;-) .

 

[bandphan]

Nope. The Marantz SR8002, now, that's a sweet sounding receiver.
Beats the pants of the Pioneer Elites.

Forget the features, go for the Musical Sound Quality.

Honestly,

Bob

Not for nothing, but have you acutally listened to both and a/b'ed and double blind tested?

 

[Hewhoissam]

I have a chance to pick up either a Pioneer SC-05 or a Denon 4306 for the same price, right around $650-$700. Has anyone had a chance to A/B these two receivers? Or do you have any preferences either way?

I'll be running my home theater set up through it, with an M&K sub, and Wharfedales all around. Thanks for the replies!

 

[bandphan]

I have a chance to pick up either a Pioneer SC-05 or a Denon 4306 for the same price, right around $650-$700. Has anyone had a chance to A/B these two receivers? Or do you have any preferences either way?

I'll be running my home theater set up through it, with an M&K sub, and Wharfedales all around. Thanks for the replies!

feature wise the 05 is newer, amp wise its a toss up imo. If not post processing is applied they should sound similiar if not the same If I were going denon, I would pefer to have the newer room correction that is offered.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Not for nothing, but have you acutally listened to both and a/b'ed and double blind tested?

Nope. Did You?

"Acutally" ?

 

[Lordoftherings]

Bravo! Excellent purchase.

Well I bought the SC-07 last night on Amazon (seller is Pavilion Electronics), but Fulfilled and Shipped by Amazon for $1100 (~50% off msrp). The one on Videogon was $999 + $70 or-so ground shipping; so not too much difference. The upside is that with my Amazon Prime it only cost $3.99 for overnight shipping; not bad for something that weighs 40 lbs. Overall very happy with the price and the quick ship for almost free.

Can't wait to hook it up tomorrow.

Thank you all for your advice... and encouragement to spend my money ;-) .

Congratulations mwilsOn!

The Pioneer Elite SC-07 is a heck of a nice receiver.
And you get a nice upside too from Amazon.
And the shipping weight is closer to 55 pounds!

Enjoy your new toy.

Bob

 

[Lordoftherings]

Pioneer Elite SC-05.

I have a chance to pick up either a Pioneer SC-05 or a Denon 4306 for the same price, right around $650-$700. Has anyone had a chance to A/B these two receivers? Or do you have any preferences either way?

I'll be running my home theater set up through it, with an M&K sub, and Wharfedales all around. Thanks for the replies!

The Denon AVR-4306ci is an older model (2005), and the Pioneer Elite SC-05 is the newest model (2008-09).

The SC-05 has all the new high resolution audio decoders already inside. It has 3 HDMI version 1.3 inputs. It is THX Select2 Plus certified. It has the nice MCACC Automatic Room EQ correction with several manual and useful adjustments that you can fine tune to your heart content. And it's a direct energy class D ICEPower.

* Get the Pioneer Elite SC-05 in a New York minute. This is an obvious choice.
The SC-05 at only $699 (or perhaps less) is a no-brainer.

Cheers,

Bob

 

[bandphan]

Nope. Did You?

"Acutally" ?

No DBTs, but have heard both Im of the school of thought that good amp designs nowdays are very linear and are impossible to tell the differences without eq applied, not that there are not slight differences We did DBTs with my gear awile back and no one could indentify which was which better than 50% of the time.

 

[mperfct]

Nope. Did You?

"Acutally" ?

You mean like this?

Got the Pio Sc-07 and I like it A LOT more for theater stuff. Much more dynamic, some how. If I was going for hardcore audiophile critical listening type activities, I'd have to re-audition for that. But for my movie theater, the SC-07 is king.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Double blind test! Hmm...

No DBTs, but have heard both Im of the school of thought that good amp designs nowdays are very linear and are impossible to tell the differences without eq applied, not that there are not slight differences We did DBTs with my gear awile back and no one could indentify which was which better than 50% of the time.

Bandphan, honestly, how many people do you know that listen to different receivers (preferably in their own system, with their own speakers) before they pick the right one that sounds best to them?

So, why did you ask me that question in the first place?
You are a funny bird indeed.

* By the way Bandphan, how did you like the answer I gave to that guy who was trying to choose the right receiver between the Yamaha RX-Z7 and the Denon AVR-4310ci, just by listening with his expensive set of headphones through the headphone amp stage socket from each one of these receivers?
Hmm... I never thought of that before... Maybe he's into something!
That, or I'm missing something.

 

[Lordoftherings]

You mean like this?

Got the Pio Sc-07 and I like it A LOT more for theater stuff. Much more dynamic, some how. If I was going for hardcore audiophile critical listening type activities, I'd have to re-audition for that. But for my movie theater, the SC-07 is king.

Exactly like this, and much more...

 

[bandphan]

* By the way Bandphan, how did you like the answer I gave to that guy who was trying to choose the right receiver between the Yamaha RX-Z7 and the Denon AVR-4310ci, just by listening with his expensive set of headphones through the headphone amp stage socket from each one of these receivers?
Hmm... I never thought of that before... Maybe he's into something!
That, or I'm missing something.

He was baiting, a troll lurking Who buys 2 high end avrs to demo without speakers He will be back today to try to suck someone in

 

[bandphan]

Bandphan, honestly, how many people do you know that listen to different receivers (preferably in their own system, with their own speakers) before they pick the right one that sounds best to them?

So, why did you ask me that question in the first place?
You are a funny bird indeed.

Most dont. My point is that nowdays people should by avrs based on features and power needed not "sound". Most of the gear that is sold these days is based upon brand loyalty first, recomendations second, reasearch third.