Has anyone heard one of these subs? This thing is HUGE!!!

[Inertia]

http://www.woofersetc.com/p3343/T992244--MTX-Audio-22"-6000-Watt-JackHammer-Subwoofer.htm

Has anyone heard one of these? What kind of enclosure would this thing go in? For the money is this any good or is it way overpriced? Im not thinking about buying one just wanted to know how it sounds.

 

[CraigV]

You may want to invest in one of these to power it:

The Tesla Coil

 

[Wafflesomd]

It's a terrible driver though.

There are plenty of 15's out there that can perform better.

http://www.faitalpro.com/products/schede/hps.php?id=201070130

Now that's a driver.

 

[jamie2112]

http://www.woofersetc.com/p3343/T992244--MTX-Audio-22"-6000-Watt-JackHammer-Subwoofer.htm

Has anyone heard one of these? What kind of enclosure would this thing go in? For the money is this any good or is it way overpriced? Im not thinking about buying one just wanted to know how it sounds.

For the money no its not good for the price. Hell you can buy 2 fathom 13's for the price of that driver and it only goes to 30hz.....Almost $7000 for a driver by mtx no thanks...........

 

[mike c]

14 18" mal-x's would be much more fun

 

[its_bacon12]

14 18" mal-x's would be much more fun

True.

Or an IA 21" DP or a 22" FI custom or something.

 

[its_bacon12]

It's a terrible driver though.

There are plenty of 15's out there that can perform better.

http://www.faitalpro.com/products/schede/hps.php?id=201070130

Now that's a driver.

That would run out of xmax in a HT. I would not recommend that in a home theater setup.

Now for a club or something, that would absolutely destroy all the competition.

 

[lsiberian]

That would run out of xmax in a HT. I would not recommend that in a home theater setup.

Now for a club or something, that would absolutely destroy all the competition.

I disagree. I dont' see it destroying many subs out there. If a sub can do home theater it can certainly do a club.

Perhaps it's unfair to say but I think it's hard to beat the Audiopulse lines for home theater. Even with more money. An LMS in a monster ported box is flat to 10hz.
If you want the best I think they have it.

 

[its_bacon12]

I disagree. I dont' see it destroying many subs out there. If a sub can do home theater it can certainly do a club.

Perhaps it's unfair to say but I think it's hard to beat the Audiopulse lines for home theater. Even with more money. An LMS in a monster ported box is flat to 10hz.
If you want the best I think they have it.

I meant it for a club doing just music without any subsonic frequencies that would cause it to bottom out.

TC makes some killer pro audio drivers too but that's just it - they are not made for home theater like that Audiopulse can do.

For loud music applications like that pro driver is designed for, it would man handle anything TC sounds makes that isn't pro audio specific (which they do also).

 

[fredk]

There is a reason pro drivers are all high efficiency. Filling a small HT space with deep bass and filling a club (a very large space) with bass for music are two completely different objectives.

 

[Loren42]

There is a reason pro drivers are all high efficiency. Filling a small HT space with deep bass and filling a club (a very large space) with bass for music are two completely different objectives.

Tell me more, please.

 

[Seth=L]

I disagree. I dont' see it destroying many subs out there. If a sub can do home theater it can certainly do a club.

Perhaps it's unfair to say but I think it's hard to beat the Audiopulse lines for home theater. Even with more money. An LMS in a monster ported box is flat to 10hz.
If you want the best I think they have it.

Concerning those Faital pro or whatever woofers....

Have you ever gone to an older theater and heard massive popping or distortion from LFE on intense passages? That's the sound a 18" or bigger, possibly more than one, subwoofer/s suffering from mechanical failure due to surpassing xmax. Those pro drivers aren't built to reproduce near subsonic and lower frequencies, they have'd to be moving a lot of air to produce that tactile response, and it's just not achievable when the xmax is a centimeter.

 

[Highbar]

Tell me more, please.

Coming from someone that loves home theater and has worked in clubs for ten years now, there is NO comparison between the two when it comes to reproducing bass. In a home theater you have a confined space that you are looking to pressurize for a short period of time. In a club you on average have a huge Volume of space that you are looking to pressurize for hours on end. A chest pounding beat in a club is 30-40Hz at the lowest, anything below that and you don't feel it. I live with a "second heart beat" if not a third, 4 nights a week and I absolutely love it Now when I'm at home watching a movie I want deep down bass that hits at short bursts. These things are completely different for drivers to handle. One driver is going to be design within a limited range for extreme amount of time, while the other is designed to be push to limits unheard of for short bursts. Think of it this way, a drag race car and a stock car are completely different but doth go fast around course for a set amount of time.

Personally I love both feelings. Sitting in a club feeling the non stop pounding of the music is incredible, there is nothing better to me. Now when I'm at home and a bass line crushes a movie, it's still love but it's totally different.

 

[lsiberian]

Coming from someone that loves home theater and has worked in clubs for ten years now, there is NO comparison between the two when it comes to reproducing bass. In a home theater you have a confined space that you are looking to pressurize for a short period of time. In a club you on average have a huge Volume of space that you are looking to pressurize for hours on end. A chest pounding beat in a club is 30-40Hz at the lowest, anything below that and you don't feel it. I live with a "second heart beat" if not a third, 4 nights a week and I absolutely love it Now when I'm at home watching a movie I want deep down bass that hits at short bursts. These things are completely different for drivers to handle. One driver is going to be design within a limited range for extreme amount of time, while the other is designed to be push to limits unheard of for short bursts. Think of it this way, a drag race car and a stock car are completely different but doth go fast around course for a set amount of time.

Personally I love both feelings. Sitting in a club feeling the non stop pounding of the music is incredible, there is nothing better to me. Now when I'm at home and a bass line crushes a movie, it's still love but it's totally different.

I'm actually looking at DJing for a side job maybe. It would give me an excuse to buy some more equipment. I think it might be fun.

 

[darien87]

It's a terrible driver though.

There are plenty of 15's out there that can perform better.

http://www.faitalpro.com/products/schede/hps.php?id=201070130

Now that's a driver.

Faital Pro huh? Even the name is scary.

 

[Highbar]

I'm actually looking at DJing for a side job maybe. It would give me an excuse to buy some more equipment. I think it might be fun.

I've worked in huge night clubs, including an open air one (want to talk about some serious bass ), a 1900 person concert venue, and small bars with set ups and you can easily tell a good system from a bad system. Give DJing a try you never know what you'll find out. If you're good you can make some good money.

 

[fredk]

Tell me more, please.

What Highbar said.

I spent some time checking out the sound system in one of the tents at the local blues festival last year. A bank of 3,000w amps sure looks impressive.

Average HT: 20*15*8 = 2,400 cu. ft.
Club: 80*60*15 = 72,000 cu. ft. (thats 30x as big is the average HT )

 

[Hi Ho]

Here's the driver I have in my first sub project:



It's an Ascendant Audio ??? 12" driver. I can't remember exactly what it is as it is no longer made but it does sound great and look impressive.

Here's the driver in my more recent sub build:



It's a Rythmik Audio DS1500 and it literally shakes the house down to around 15hz in the sealed enclosure.