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manvill76

Enthusiast
Dear Sir,

What is a blu ray disc? Do I really need to change my gears to enjoy this kind of disc? My amplifier and dvd player as well as my display does not have the so called HDMI input/output. What is the difference between a DVD and a blu ray disc?
Can I play a blu ray disc on my DVD player? Is the cost of a blu ray film the same as the DVD film?

I was amazed when I watch a blu ray film on a Sony showroom. The sound and video was incredible. It was like watching a film inside a big theater.

Thanks and regards.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Hi.

What is a blu ray disc?
Another form of media storage - like a CD, DVD, tape, etc.

Do I really need to change my gears to enjoy this kind of disc? My amplifier and dvd player as well as my display does not have the so called HDMI input/output.
It appears that you do need to change your equipment to use blu-ray, but you'll need to decide if it's worth it. The advantages of blu-ray are a higher resolution picture and (potentially) uncompressed audio. Blu-ray would be useful to you if your TV is an HDTV, but not if you have a standard definition TV (like I do). If you give us the model numbers of your equipment, when can help you answer that question better.

What is the difference between a DVD and a blu ray disc?
Blu-ray discs hold more information. A lot more information. They can do that on a disc that is the same size as a DVD because the information is packed tighter - and that's possible because a different frequency of laser is used to read them.

Can I play a blu ray disc on my DVD player?
You'll need to tell us the model number, but if you don't have a player that specifically states that it can play blu-ray then you cannot. My guess is that you can't because you are calling it a "DVD player."

Is the cost of a blu ray film the same as the DVD film?
I can't say for sure because I've never bought a blu-ray disc and haven't bought a DVD in years, but I'm guessing that blu-ray is still more expensive because it's a newer technology and offers more.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I feel sorry for guys like the OP here. Because Blu-ray has slumped off in their marketing approach I've noticed a lot of people still have no clue what Blu-ray is. The extent of their marketing seems to end at advertisement on new DVD movies and advertisements for new movies coming out to DVD/Blu-ray.

It's Blu-ray's ignorance that leads to more people being either unaware or they don't understand what it is that they are supposed to be buying. For AV guys like us it's common knowledge, kinda like laser disk, but look where that ended up.;)

Adam pretty much summed up your questions with laments term answers, which is definitely appropriate for someone getting their feet wet when it comes to this format.

Here you can do some light reading concerning the format, it should give you some insight on how the format works, what it does for you, and how it differs from DVD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

If you are just interested in recent history you can read about the now defunct HD DVD which was in competition to replace DVD in format war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
It's Blu-ray's ignorance that leads to more people being either unaware or they don't understand what it is that they are supposed to be buying. For AV guys like us it's common knowledge, kinda like laser disk, but look where that ended up.;)
I appreciate the thought and perspective put into your post, but I think it's pretty hard to overstate the ignorance of the consumers. Local Costco stores had/did put up very large signs at the entrance to the TV areas that basically said something like: "You must have HD programming to enjoy high definition on your new HDTV". Like, really big sign. :eek:
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I appreciate the thought and perspective put into your post, but I think it's pretty hard to overstate the ignorance of the consumers. Local Costco stores had/did put up very large signs at the entrance to the TV areas that basically said something like: "You must have HD programming to enjoy high definition on your new HDTV". Like, really big sign. :eek:
That's good and dandy, but what's that got to do with Blu-ray?;)

Remember we don't all have the luxury of Costco stores in our area.:D

I agree that most consumers overall are pretty ignorant to new technology, government, economy and pretty much anything relevant. I've chosen to cutback on ridiculing ignorant people mainly because it doesn't help. To treat someone who asks a question with neglect or negative responces just pushes a person further away from wanting to learn or know how things work. People also don't like being forced into a new way of living or buying.

What if they stopped making DVDs to make way for Blu-ray sales. At that the consumer's worst fear is realized, they are forced into buying something new in order to purchase new media. As for the Digital TV conversion, people are increasingly frustrated that they must change and learn/buy new things just to watch scheduled programming. Those *"convertor boxes" are terrible to say the least. The user interface is minimal and if you lose the remote you can't change channels with most of them.

All that said, I still think that Blu-ray has a piss poor advertisement campaign. I guess they figure they've won so they don't really need to. They put a little competitor out of business (a willing trade is more the case), but they still have DVD to compete with. As tough as that sounds, it's nothing simple to achieve. DVD has a strong new and used market, a very tough egg to crack. Maybe Blu-ray camp knows it's going to be next to impossible to prove the the general public that Blu-ray is a worthy successor to DVD especially at the cost.

* "converter box" is quite possibly the best example of marketing for ignorant people. It doesn't convert in the way the average joe thinks it does, but to average joe it makes more sense than "digital receiver" or "digital tuner". Much like the Nintendo Wii the "converter box" unleashed the wild side of people where a majority of their brain cells must be rendered inoperable for a time when the "converter box" concern takes prescedence. When I used to work for Wal-Mart it was quite possibly one of the most frustrating things to have to tell one customer we where out of "converter boxes" while another customer, who was standing well within earshot, asked me if we had any "converter boxes". When people are worried to death that they won't be able to watch TV in month or two they seem to focus on NOTHING but that flimsy piece of plastic with a chinsy circuit board inside.

end rant
 
F

Fenix

Audioholic
To answer some of your questions first:

Blu-Rays are more expensive than DVDs. On release days DVDs are about $15 at walmart while the Blu-Ray version is $25, and when they are not on sale they normally run about $30+

Your older equipment most likely will not run them. First off, as mentioned above, you state that you have a DVD player. That player will not run Blu-Rays. You need a Blu-ray player. Secondly, if you want to get the HD sound you need HDMI (that currently is the only connection that it will transmit over), any other connection will just get you the normal DTS or Dolby Digital. Thirdly if you want to get benefits of the better picture, then you need a new HDTV with HDMI inputs (1080p is only sent over the HDMI, otherwise you get up to 1080i with the component input). And finally you will have to get a newer receiver that has HDMI and the HD audio decoders.

I purchased all of my AV components within the last year and paid ~$4,000 for everything:

TV: Sony KDL-46V4100 (46" LCD, 1080p, 60Hz)
Blu-Ray: Sony BDP-S350
AVR: Yamaha RX-V665
Speakers: Klipsch XB-10 x4
Klipsch XL-23
Klipsch Sub-12

I love Blu-Ray movies and the clarity that they have both in picture and audio. It's an expensive format right now, but once it gets more popular the prices will come down (Just like DVDs did when they became popular).
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
It's note worthy that you can use a traditional surround sound receiver with Blu-ray, you just won't get the full potential it offers in the sound quality department.
 
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