You do realize the bulk of the weight is usually heatsinks, and with increased efficiency comes less of a need for them right?
For $499 msrp you get a receiver that's worth the money. Most people who are going to spend 500 dollars on a receiver don't need pre-outs in the first place.
To call them garbage is a little overboard. Also to everyone who says their old amps were better, you're just holding onto your old amps cause you're old too! Ya oldies!
Like Adam......oldy mcolderson.
Well, the heavy part is usually the heatsink(s) and the transformer(s).
The transformer in my 805 is over 20 pounds (perhaps closer to 25).
And the 805 was selling for only $449 at one point! Total weight is 51 pounds.
If I want more HDMI (which I don't), I can always buy a separate HDMI swicher with 6 ins and 2 outs (about $79).
Now, the word "garbage" is not part of my vocabulary. The word most closer to this will be trash. But I only use it for my own trash, as home dispensable.
And you don't need to be old to own an old amp. As a proof, my neighbour's kid is 18 years old, and he recently bought an old Denon amp from 1973 at a garage sale for $20 (integrated amp with main in/pre out).
And me, I got a brand new cell phone just recently released. It has more features than any receiver on the market!
LOTR
