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CraigV

CraigV

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Just sad we won't see any more of this:

I saw a story on Yahoo lamenting the demise of Juliet, basing this on the premise that she is going to be in another show on another network. If the “Island” has shown us anything, it’s that death (or a supposed death) is not necessarily the end of a character.

I just saw it too but without the benefit of having seen the whole season. I liked the opening scene. Who are those two? What are those two? There is some serious writing talent on this show. I'm gonna read this thread to look for more clues. Next year is the final season? I'm going to watch it commercials and all.
As for the two guys at the beginning of the episode, the older guy (not Jacob) is said to need to find a loop-hole. Jacob then speaks to John in the present day as though he were…what? A re-incarnation of this man? There appear to be two John Lockes’, one alive & one dead. Wonder how that is going to pan out.

I kind of had a feeling the season would end with the bomb going off. It’s going to be a long summer & fall waiting for what happens next.
 
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mperfct

mperfct

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I can't help but see that pic and think if they are built for speed or comfort.
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

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I think the two men at the beginning may be the original inhabitants of the Island? Jacob and that buddy of his...

It seems that Jacob and Richard aren't the only people with the unique ability to remain ageless. I would think that the man that was talking with Jacob used Locke's death to take advantage of The Others and Ben - that was his loophole.

My big question is... now that Jacob is (dead), who is the Leader of the Island?

And was this the war that (the good guys) were referring to? Were they too late in warning Jacob, and now the bad guy has won?

From the conversation at the beginning of the episode, I think I may have some grasp as to what The Others are for... Jacob's buddy said that every person that comes fights, becomes corrupt, evil... because (im assuming) of the Island's uniqueness, I mean, it heals cancer patients and paralysis!

Jacob said that he brought the Black Rock to the Island to prove that guy wrong... who's to say he didn't bring the Flight 815 passengers to the island?

And if he did... what will happen when Flight 815 lands in LAX like it was supposed to?

Ajira will have never crashed, in that case.
And if Ajira never crashed... then Locke never comes back to the island re-incarnated as that crazy dude.

And if Locke's reincarnation never comes back, Jacob never dies.

Herm.
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

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OH YEAH!!!

When Desmond blew the damn (flipped the failsafe in the hatch)...

He woke up, naked, in the jungle.

I bet Juliet will follow somewhere in the same path as Desmond.

She's not dead XD


I think that is HER eye!
 
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Alex2507

Alex2507

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Juliette naked and unconscious in the jungle ...
Boy, can you write a story or what? :D

I hope they do a good job with the finale season.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this come out on DVD.
 
Phil Taylor

Phil Taylor

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That eye is definitely Jack's eye. It is the exact same as the very first scene of the series back in season 1 - no doubt about it. It may be how the season starts next year... Jack waking up in the jungle, far removed from the crash scene, in a stand of bamboo trees. Guess we gotta wait til next year to find out. There is a very weird camera move in that scene - Jack runs from the bamboo trees to the beach and stops - the camera shows Jack on the right, then pans left to the beach and at the end of the pan Jack is on camera left... very strange... ???
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

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That eye is definitely Jack's eye. It is the exact same as the very first scene of the series back in season 1 - no doubt about it. It may be how the season starts next year... Jack waking up in the jungle, far removed from the crash scene, in a stand of bamboo trees. Guess we gotta wait til next year to find out. There is a very weird camera move in that scene - Jack runs from the bamboo trees to the beach and stops - the camera shows Jack on the right, then pans left to the beach and at the end of the pan Jack is on camera left... very strange... ???
I dunno - Jack has hazel eyes... those eyes in the teaser were green... :confused:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Badnewsforshannon.jpg < Jack w/ hazel eyes

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/8/8d/4x06_JulietFlash.jpg < Juliet w/ green eyes
 
Phil Taylor

Phil Taylor

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I dunno - Jack has hazel eyes... those eyes in the teaser were green... :confused:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Badnewsforshannon.jpg < Jack w/ hazel eyes

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/8/8d/4x06_JulietFlash.jpg < Juliet w/ green eyes
I've seen a side-by-side comparison and it is exactly the same eye clear down to the position of the eyelashes, wrinkles, the reflection in the eye, etc - every feature of the eye is exactly the same - it is JACK's eye.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

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Folks, I thought the (2) guys at the beginning of the scene were of course Jacob AND Charles Whitmore. As such, I believe the Charles is the "bad" guy and Jacob is the good guy. Ben has given us hints of this from time to time. As always, I could be wrong. :p:):p But, it does make some sense. What a great episode! Ben stabbing Jacob could have been done better. It looked kind of weak. But hey, it was on national tv so perhaps it was watered down a bit. :D:eek::D Now we have a long wait before we get some of our answers. A long wait at that. ;););)



Cheers,

Phil
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

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Folks, I thought the (2) guys at the beginning of the scene were of course Jacob AND Charles Whitmore. As such, I believe the Charles is the "bad" guy and Jacob is the good guy. Ben has given us hints of this from time to time. As always, I could be wrong. :p:):p But, it does make some sense. What a great episode! Ben stabbing Jacob could have been done better. It looked kind of weak. But hey, it was on national tv so perhaps it was watered down a bit. :D:eek::D Now we have a long wait before we get some of our answers. A long wait at that. ;););)



Cheers,

Phil
That's deffinetly a possibility! I'm just not sure about that - the good guy/bad guy thing is still up in the air with me... just as Lapidus said,

"The people that go out of the way to say they are the good guys, are usually the bad guys."

I think Widmore is just another pawn in all of this... the man that was talking with Jacob, I think, may be dead... and reincarnated through Locke... I dunno though, it's so hard to say.
:rolleyes:

In the Bible, Jacob's brother, with whom he has a tenuous and sometimes antagonistic relationship, is named Esau.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob's_enemy
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

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That's deffinetly a possibility! I'm just not sure about that - the good guy/bad guy thing is still up in the air with me... just as Lapidus said,

"The people that go out of the way to say they are the good guys, are usually the bad guys."

I think Widmore is just another pawn in all of this... the man that was talking with Jacob, I think, may be dead... and reincarnated through Locke... I dunno though, it's so hard to say.
:rolleyes:

In the Bible, Jacob's brother, with whom he has a tenuous and sometimes antagonistic relationship, is named Esau.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob's_enemy
As mentioned in my post, I could be wrong. However, the guy sure looked a lot more like Widmore than any other character imho. In fact, he looked like an older version of Widmore. I do believe we will get to know a lot more about Jacob in the final season. As such, many questions will be answered while many more will not. Once again, the anticipation is exactly what keeps me watching the show. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Oh, the agony of it all.......Lmao!!!!! :D;):D



Cheers,

Phil
 
Nomo

Nomo

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I've seen a side-by-side comparison and it is exactly the same eye clear down to the position of the eyelashes, wrinkles, the reflection in the eye, etc - every feature of the eye is exactly the same - it is JACK's eye.
Not a chance. That's Kate's eye.
I've avoided watching this thread as I was a couple of episodes behind, but I couldn't resist.
I still need to watch the last half of the finale, and plan to do that later today.
'til then I'll keep away.;)
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

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Not a chance. That's Kate's eye.
I've avoided watching this thread as I was a couple of episodes behind, but I couldn't resist.
I still need to watch the last half of the finale, and plan to do that later today.
'til then I'll keep away.;)
Looking forward to your input once you do finish catching up :)
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

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In the Bible, Jacob's brother, with whom he has a tenuous and sometimes antagonistic relationship, is named Esau.
I really like that theory. Esau wanted to kill Jacob!
Jacob the fooler stole Esau's birth right and Esau much like Bush wadn goan be fooled 'gain! :D

You like that? Don't think it's easy 'cause it's not.
Religion, politics and prime time ... oh bliss. :p
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

Senior Audioholic
Here's what I thought up last night while re-watching Season 1 for the thousandth time...

So maybe that IS Jack's eye...

BUT

Maybe Season 6 is Season 1... but from "The Others" perspective?

If Jack's bomb was the reason for the Incident, then when the anomaly was destroyed, they would have been sent back to Day 1... when Oceanic landed on the beach.

Season 1 follows the survivors...

But maybe Season 6 follows the Others, and explains

1) Why the kidnapped various members of flight 815
2) Why they are so mysterious about the crash
3) Why they take the children/can't get pregnant...

I think that would produce a wealth of knowledge to the viewer, if we were to see Season 1 through The Other's eyes...

Hmmmm :rolleyes:
 
Phil Taylor

Phil Taylor

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I'm re-watching season one as well - made it thru the first two discs last night. The producers have hinted that the key to the series lies in season one. Early on Locke shows Walt the backgammon board and tells him that the game is the oldest game in the world - older than Christ - some 5000 years old and that it is comprised of two sides "one dark and one light". That theme is repeated in the Jacob/Esau | God/Devil | Sawyer/Jack | Ben/Whidmore | etc duels.

Another theme repeated during the series is the "destiny vs. free will" theme. In "The Moth" episode Locke gave Charlie the choice of whether to continue using drugs or not - and most recently Jacob told Ben he had the choice of whether to kill him - or leave him and "Locke/Esau" to discuss their differences.

Where the show goes next year only the writers know for certain - but it will likely continue the good vs. evil and destiny vs. free will theme that has been established - and I'm sure it will kick ***. :D
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

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I'm re-watching season one as well - made it thru the first two discs last night. The producers have hinted that the key to the series lies in season one. Early on Locke shows Walt the backgammon board and tells him that the game is the oldest game in the world - older than Christ - some 5000 years old and that it is comprised of two sides "one dark and one light". That theme is repeated in the Jacob/Esau | God/Devil | Sawyer/Jack | Ben/Whidmore | etc duels.

Another theme repeated during the series is the "destiny vs. free will" theme. In "The Moth" episode Locke gave Charlie the choice of whether to continue using drugs or not - and most recently Jacob told Ben he had the choice of whether to kill him - or leave him and "Locke/Esau" to discuss their differences.

Where the show goes next year only the writers know for certain - but it will likely continue the good vs. evil and destiny vs. free will theme that has been established - and I'm sure it will kick ***. :D
Interesting perspective Phil. In fact, it makes a lot of sense. I am sure we will know more soon enough. It looks like to me Jacob is NOT the "bad" guy. Not so sure about Widmore though. I also believe that the island contains the "Fountain of Youth"-that, along with the ability to travel through time allows many to control their very own destiny. Thus, doing so allows many to exercise their own free-will. As always, I could be wrong as it would not be the first time for sure. :p:):p



Cheers,

Phil
 
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res6jya6

res6jya6

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Interesting perspective Phil. In fact, it makes a lot of sense. I am sure we will know more soon enough. It looks like to me Jacob is NOT the "bad" guy. Not so sure about Widmore though. I also believe that the island contains the "Fountain of Youth"-that, along with the ability to travel through time allows many to control their very own destiny. Thus, doing so allows many to exercise their own free-will. As always, I could be wrong as it would not be the first time for sure. :p:):p
I've been fascinated with the plot elements that they have woven into the show. Yin and Yang seem to be the major components in the writer's idea:

There are two counteracting sides, but they are - ultimately - part of one whole thing. As was pointed out earlier... Locke describing Backgammon - two players, two sides... one is light... one is dark... which is the essential philosophy of yin and yang.

Now that I have seen the side-by-side comparison of Jack's eye... I am firmly established in my belief that;

1) The (first) Incident was NOT the result of the drilling - it was the result of the bomb.

The Blast Door Map ( http://www.caffeine-headache.net/weblog/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg ) indicates that an "Incident" occured sometime in the early eighties... I have a couple of ideas regarding this -

Since Jack was supposedly not associated with the original variation of DHARMA in 1977, they successfully drilled into the electromagnetic anomally and made "The Swan" station... which included with it a large reasearch lab that would later be known as "The Incident Room" ( http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/f/fd/Behind_the_Secret_Swan.jpg ). Sometime in the early eighties, (something) went down... resulting in the reactor of the Swan to explode, and forcing DHARMA to contain that reactor in the room stated above, thus requiring the 108-minute protocol to be observed.

If you watch The Swan Orientation Video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFDHgjrlK8 ) you will notice a few things... for example, Dr. Marvin Candle is Dr. Pierre Chang (Miles' father) and Pierre Chang has a fake left arm. Dr. Chang states in the video: "Station 3 was originally constructed as a laboratory where scientists could work to understand the unique electromagnetic fluctuations eminating from this sector of The Island. Not long, after the experiments began however, there was... an Incident..."


2) Assuming the previous statement is true... Flight 815 will in fact crash on The Island on September 22nd, 2004. And this whole chain of events will just happen all over again. It seems to be an inevitable catch-22... that is, until you look at the VARIABLES in the situation.

Constants on the island: Jacob, Esau (Jacob's nemesis, sorry), The Island, the military presence circa 1950, DHARMA's presence in the 70's...

Variables on the island: Flight 815 survivors...

It seems that The Others infiltrated DHARMA... during The Purge ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwNGC30IqI ) it seems to me that The Others were able to initiate the massacre internally; they were wearing masks as they walked out from the shadows - the people that were dead were just that: dead... there seemed to be no struggle or indication that they were aware that hostiles were attacking.

Since I am a believer that Jack did the wrong thing, I also feel that Sayid did the wrong thing when he shot Benjamin Linus... that wasn't supposed to happen!

There remains a slight blank here: How did Benjamin come to control The Others? How did HE pull off The Purge? (Something I am assuming we may learn in Season 6)

Anyway... if the Others were able to infiltrate DHARMA, they knew all of DHARMA's secrets... and even if they weren't aware of some sort of incident originally taking place in 1977, they would sure as heck know about it after Jack screwed everything up.

Open questions at this point:

When/how did Benjamin Linus come back to DHARMA after being cured by The Others?

What happened once Juliet made the bomb detonate?

I have no answer for Ben... but the bomb?

Wayyyy back in Season 2, John Locke decided it would be a good idea to STOP pushing the button. In doing so, Desmond had to turn the key to a failsafe. For those of you that need a refresher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UXeJbQTas ... After turning the failsafe key, Desmond wakes up covered in red paint... and begins reliving his life since BEFORE The Island. The entire time, he gets feelings and flashbacks about The Island. Before long, he meets Eloise Hawking in a jewelery store... the second time around, Desmond decides that he is in fact going to marry Penny, but Eloise tells him that his destiny is The Island... not Penny.

After a good knock in the head, Desmond wakes up naked, back on The Island... but with the mysterious ability to predict the future.

I've got a pretty good feeling that THE VARIABLES (Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sayid...) are going to wake up at a point previous in their lives (or ahead in the future, whatever way you want to look at it)...

In doing this, we may better understand the flashbacks that we saw in previous seasons.

In addition to all of this, you will have to remember that THE CONSTANTS all stayed the same, primarily The Others and the incidents that happened with DHARMA. It may be bright to point out something here, though... since The Others already have various abilities (Eloise can see the future, for example)... they may not exactly be constants... if anything, they may be the people writing the equation?

We already know all about the Oceanic survivors. We know their past... we know their future... we know how they get on/off the island.

We already know all about DHARMA. We know how they came to be, we know what happens to them...

What's left? THE OTHERS! I firmly believe that Season 6 is going to be Season 1 - from The Others perspective. They know what goes down on The Island... and with orders from Jacob, they try to change the mathematical formula for the future of the island... re-arranging the variables so that the outcome is different.

If I recall correctly from the Season 5 finale... Jacob implies that he is the one who brought the Black Rock to the island, wherein the Nemesis states that they always become corrupt, fight, and kill... and that Jacob is merely trying to prove him wrong. Jacob then says that anything up to that point, is progress.

Now before I go even further on into this exhausting theory, I want to go over something...

Ilana and her macho buddy state that they are "the good guys"...
Ben states that he is "one of the good guys"...

They all work for Jacob.

So who works for Jacob's nemesis? Widmore? Ms. Hawking?

I guess we can't really create a fine line just yet as to who exactly are the good guys and bad guys... we just don't know enough yet. But what I like to remember is that, even though there are two sides, they still make a whole (YIN YANG!!!). And all of these people are here for a reason.


Back to my original statements...

Jacob seems to have hope for the people that come to the island.
His nemesis does not... and he wants to kill Jacob for some strange reason.

It seems, though, that Jacob may be influencing the Oceanic variables in a way to prove himself correct to his nemesis. He tells The Others whom to take from the crashed aircraft (well, he tells Richard, anyway)... and he helps divulge all sorts of information regarding the survivors.

Note: Richard could be working for Jacob's nemesis...

So what I am trying to get at here... is that Jacob is using this new batch of people that HE himself visited before the crash, to change the outcome of how things turn out on the island. The whole while, his nemesis is looking for ways to kill him... through a loophole (in Jacob's plans, perhaps? **in which he would know all about if Richard was a spy**).

And now it's all being reset to the beginning... when the Oceanic variables first came to the island. Only, now we are going to see things from a different POV...

And if that is the case, Jacob is once again alive...

And The Others are going to manipulate the Oceanic survivors in a way that will help Jacob... since they most likely already know what is going to happen...

Any thoughts? :confused:
 

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