wah wah red chicklet + politics thread

Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
Who AM I? Don't jump to conclusions:D WORTH READING


I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in another
country. I was not his only child. He fathered several children with numerous
women. I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.
My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a legitimate,
reliable birth certificate.
I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely
accepted in my country, but I practiced nontraditional beliefs and didn't
follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.
I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising
myself as someone who really cared about them.
That was before I decided
it was time to get serious about my life and I
embarked on a new career.
I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those who read
my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a
child.
I became active in local politics in my 30's then with help behind the
scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in
my 40's.
They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything. That
reinforced my conceit.
I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience
in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker and
citizens were
drawn to me as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.
I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This bolstered
my
ego.
At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy. I
was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to
bash my country.

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the
country's economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do
better and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.
I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It was the
free market, banks and corporations. I decided to start making citizens hate
them and if they were envious of others who did well, the plan was
clinched
tight.
I called mine "A People's Campaign" and that sounded good to all
people.
I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional
path of
politics & was able to gain widespread popular support.
I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope' , together we could
change our country and the world.
So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the
downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities" like
the Jews..
My true views were not widely known and I needed to keep them unknown, until
after I became my nation's leader.
I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out
what
I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people
I associated with.
I'm glad they didn't. Then I became the most powerful man in the
world. And the world learned the truth.
Who am I?
ADOLF HITLER




Later,

MidCow2
 
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sgtpepper9

sgtpepper9

Audioholic
haha I may just be young but do republicans always get this scared when we elect a democratic president?
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
I'm not quite sure I understand the purpose of this thread...

First, that description of Hitler's life is borderline misleading. There were many more important experiences that shaped his views on life and his country than just the fact that his father abandoned him. Hitler was a wanna be artist/architect, a voracious reader, a soldier (some would call him a battlefield hero, a spy, a propagandist, a failed politician (almost hunted for treason), and a prisoner before he wrote Mein Kampf. He did not burst on the scene for national office- he had slowly built up a steady base as part of his party, even before he went to prison, and was very well known within Bavaria and to a lesser extent the rest of Germany. I will also add that Hitler's condemnation of the Jews was not something he invented as a mature adult running for office- his anti-Semitic beliefs extended very far back to his days as a young adult.

I'm not going to take the time to explain every point that was written, but whomever wrote this originally did a piss-poor job at understanding the life of Adolf Hitler, his origins, and his motives. I would also add that very little thought was given to the state of Germany and greater Europe at the time.

To try and equate the rise and life of Hitler to the rise of Obama (which is my interpretation of the text based on how it was written- apologies if I'm mistaken) is absolutely sick and twisted. Trying to make a comparison between anybody and a man who was one of the greatest villains in history just because you disagree with their politics is immature and asinine.

P.S. This is NOT an attack at the OP... I assume this was found/received in an email as opposed to it being written.
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
haha I may just be young but do republicans always get this scared when we elect a democratic president?
No, more like everyone who doesn't agree with someone's politics goes apeshiz when that someone gets elected to some office. Remember, everyone has their belief with respect to what's the best way to do something, and everyone believes themselves to be right while anyone who thinks contrary to them is wrong. :)
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
History is a valuable teacher.
Oh for Pete's sake. How many other leaders with the same qualities and similar stories not turn out to be maniacs. If you look at history, look at the whole thing and not selectively.
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
Oh for Pete's sake. How many other leaders with the same qualities and similar stories not turn out to be maniacs.
To even claim their stories are similar is a HUGE stretch....
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
I really wish the govt would completely deregulate everything and make way for the true "free market". Then we'd see real doom.
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

Banned
so I assume you did not give me the red chicklet :)

I'm not quite sure I understand the purpose of this thread...

First, that description of Hitler's life is borderline misleading. There were many more important experiences that shaped his views on life and his country than just the fact that his father abandoned him. Hitler was a wanna be artist/architect, a voracious reader, a soldier (some would call him a battlefield hero, a spy, a propagandist, a failed politician (almost hunted for treason), and a prisoner before he wrote Mein Kampf. He did not burst on the scene for national office- he had slowly built up a steady base as part of his party, even before he went to prison, and was very well known within Bavaria and to a lesser extent the rest of Germany. I will also add that Hitler's condemnation of the Jews was not something he invented as a mature adult running for office- his anti-Semitic beliefs extended very far back to his days as a young adult.

I'm not going to take the time to explain every point that was written, but whomever wrote this originally did a piss-poor job at understanding the life of Adolf Hitler, his origins, and his motives. I would also add that very little thought was given to the state of Germany and greater Europe at the time.

To try and equate the rise and life of Hitler to the rise of Obama (which is my interpretation of the text based on how it was written- apologies if I'm mistaken) is absolutely sick and twisted. Trying to make a comparison between anybody and a man who was one of the greatest villains in history just because you disagree with their politics is immature and asinine.

P.S. This is NOT an attack at the OP... I assume this was found/received in an email as opposed to it being written.
Aberkowitz, you are correct it was just some information I received and posted to stimulate the mind. It is not my opinion or writing. Oh well, apparently I p*ssed off someone to give a unsigned red chicklet. Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone.

Peace,

MidCow2

P.S. - It was posted in a Steam Vent thread :confused:
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
Let's not forget that Hitler was more a conservative than liberal as is the case with the majority of dictatorships historically.
 
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Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
Hopefully I offset that chicklet, whoever did that, it was uncalled for.
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
Aberkowitz, you are correct it was just some information I received and posted to stimulate the mind. It is not my opinion or writing. Oh well, apparently I p*ssed off someone to give a unsigned red chicklet. Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone.

Peace,

MidCow2

P.S. - It was posted in a Steam Vent thread :confused:
Nope- I did not give you a red chicklet.... and if I did I would have signed it. Needless to say, I didn't think your actions deserved one.

I understood from the start that it was not your writing, and I totally understand why you posted it. There's no reason why we cannot have an intelligent discussion around somebody else's opinion- whether we believe it to be realistic or incredibly stupid.

My responses were to the accuracy of the writing (or lack their of) and how somebody decided to wildly twist facts around to satirically compare our current President to one of the worst human beings to ever walk this earth. No matter how much you may dislike a man's politics, his points of view, or his sports interests, we need to keep our criticisms constructive and our comparisons reasonable.
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
we need to keep our criticisms constructive and our comparisons reasonable.
Unfortunately friend, that's something far too few people actually do, whether towards our former CIC, our current CIC, or pretty much anything.
 
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craigsub

Audioholic Chief
Oh for Pete's sake. How many other leaders with the same qualities and similar stories not turn out to be maniacs. If you look at history, look at the whole thing and not selectively.
I made a general statement that history is a valuable teacher. What exactly is the problem with that statement ?

The opposite would be that history is an ineffective teacher.
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
I made a general statement that history is a valuable teacher. What exactly is the problem with that statement ?

The opposite would be that history is an ineffective teacher.
There's nothing wrong with the statement, but everyone knows what you were implying. Do not play the victim card.
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
A little off-topic, but interesting. Munich was the base of the Nazi party, and most of the meetings occurred in the local beer halls- the Hofbrau Haus being the most famous. The place used to have swastikas painted all over the ceiling, particularly around the ceiling fans. After the fall of the Nazis, the beer hall creatively painted over the swastikas with images of the Bavarian flag.

I have a pretty cool picture of this, but for some reason I cannot access it right now. Will post later.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
haha I may just be young but do republicans always get this scared when we elect a democratic president?
It's not just Republicans and it's not just that Obama ran with the Democratic Party. Obama wants to give everyone everything and it's all being paid for by the same people- someone else. Government is taking control of manufacturing, finance, banking and they want more control. The mob we have in Washington think big government and Socialism are good.

Giving people everything they need only takes away any inclination to do things for themselves. Making people dependent on the government only makes them victims to that government's whims. People need to be aware and concerned by how things are changing and they also need to pay attention after the election. Obama said he's make all kinds of changes when he campaigned but in his acceptance speech, he said "It won't happen in a year, it may not happen in one term...". He has lost quite a bit of support from some on Congress and he's doing a lot of tap dancing lately.

You said you're young- that means you should still remember what you learned from American History classes. If you do, I suggest that you read a wider variety on the subject. What they taught isn't the whole story. In anything political, we have a duty to be skeptical of the people in government. They aren't there only for our benefit. Power and influence are a huge part of why they want to be elected.

Obama wants everyone to be equal. The problem is that, rather than make people want to be better because they tried harder, learned more and worked for it, he wants to take from those who have and give to those who need. You should recognize that last part if you paid attention in World History.
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
Simple question: How do we KNOW what anyone else WANTS. I'm just curious. A lot of people say "He/she wants this/that" without any factually substantial reasons. They take what someone says, such as "If you spread the wealth around, it's better for everyone", and turns it into "I want everyone to have the same exact amount of money."

Last time I checked, more people with increased buying power is better for everyone. Yes, EVERYONE. More people with buying power = MORE PRODUCTS PURCHASED, MORE MONEY FOR SMALL AND LARGE BUSINESS, AND MORE REASON TO INCREASE PRODUCTION AND JOBS. The world doesn't revolve around the sale of multi-million dollar mansions, $100k 103" plasma TVs, and half million dollar supercars. It's not only the "successful" people earning 6 figure salaries making the Toyota Camry the highest selling car in the US.
 
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craigsub

Audioholic Chief
There's nothing wrong with the statement, but everyone knows what you were implying. Do not play the victim card.
As I was implying nothing, I suggest you learn not to make assumptions.
 

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