Is Too much treble bad?

[MinusTheBear]

To the OP. Have you ever thought about getting rid of your current speakers. You would probably enjoy a bright sounding speaker that offer more of a forward sound presentation. You wouldn't need to use the tone controls as much as you are now.

 

[lsiberian]

there is always a cheaper solution. Get better tastes.

Seriously though. If you listen without tone control for a month you will probably learn to like your music with a more natural curve. We can adjust as humans over time. Example some people switch from white bread to wheat. The adjustment took me 3 -4 weeks of eating only wheat, but the benefits were a lower requirement of bread to satisfy hunger, better digestion, more energy, Plus I lost fat content.

In the same way adjusting to a natural response curve may improve your overall music listening experience. Just a thought. I know everyone says go get new speakers, but most of us have to save up months before we could by a speaker worth buying.

 

[highfigh]

huh? can you translate, pease?

Python line (Parrot sketch) and that's what I thought you started with "that's an ex=tweeter you've got there. It's shucked it's mortal coil."

The bad customer relations was from saying that the warranty doesn't cover stupidity. You don't call a customer that until they leave the store.

 

[highfigh]

If you are cranking the trebble all the way up to get the sound you want there is something wrong. Speakers are designed to be played without the tone controls engaged. They are/were there to make minor adjustments to match your taste or to make up for room effects.

Even if you don't fry your tweeters, I expect that you are driving the tweeters beyond what they are capable of, introducing all sorts of distortion.

Considergoing to a local electronics store and find some speakers you like the sound of without cranking the trebble. Then, take your speakers to the store and compare them with and without the trebble cranked and see which set you like better.


Funny you should mention that, because that was one of the things that popped into my head in the 'somethings not right here' category.

Your comments don't take into account the people who crank the treble on whatever system they listen to, regardless of whether they have listened to it first, or not. It's the same kind of thing as people who salt or pepper their food before tasting it. It's "just something I have always done and I like it that way". If you go into a club that has live music or plays CDs, most have someone running the system who equates good with loud, or clean with really loud and trebly.

Remember- there are thousands of people who like the sound of piezoelectric tweeters, too. I call those "Sonic Lasers".

 

[highfigh]

Cranking up tone/EQ controls makes more noise, not more sound

It's more sound, but it's not good sound.

I had a couple of metalheads come into a stereo store and ask "What are the best speakers you have?". I asked, "Best or loudest?" and he responded with "What's the difference?".

 

[jamie2112]

It's more sound, but it's not good sound.

I had a couple of metalheads come into a stereo store and ask "What are the best speakers you have?". I asked, "Best or loudest?" and he responded with "What's the difference?".

Just look at how many sheep there are out there buying bose........(not you Brian)......

 

[markw]

Artistic license.

Python line (Parrot sketch) and that's what I thought you started with "that's an ex=tweeter you've got there. It's shucked it's mortal coil."

Glad you picked up on that reference. You must be an old fart, too.

The bad customer relations was from saying that the warranty doesn't cover stupidity. You don't call a customer that until they leave the store.

Naturally, we didn't call them that to their faces. It just got dicey when they went to TRY to get new speakers a day or so after buying them and were told that we would have to send them out before we could authorize a "free" replacement and, if they died of natural causes they would get a replacment. Believe me, we didn't have to call them idiots in so many words. They knew what they were.

 

[Adam]

Just look at how many sheep there are out there buying bose...

There are also the people that chose Bose (or whatever) over other brands, even after hearing them. I think that education is a valuable tool here. I think that putting people down because they like something else isn't. The intent of this hobby is to be happy, right? If someone is "ignorant" and happy with their gear, then that's fine by me. That proably also describes me.

That's not intended as a comment towards you, Jamie. Threads like this just get me thinking about that stuff.

 

[Alex2507]

I had a couple of metalheads come into a stereo store and ask "What are the best speakers you have?". I asked, "Best or loudest?" and he responded with "What's the difference?".

What is the difference?

 

[CraigV]

I was wooed by the “crisp clear” sound of Klipsch when I first heard them, so I bought a set. It didn’t take long for “clean and crisp” to become overly detailed, and induce listener fatigue. Cranking up the treble (for me) has the same effect.

 

[Evildude]

Man, I've tried setting the EQ on flat and the music just seems lifeless, and just for the record I don't crank the volume all the way up.

 

[MinusTheBear]

Add Evildudes treble sickness to mike_c bass addiction and I think we could have our first audio induced fatality.

 

[Adam]

Add Evildudes treble sickness to mike_c bass addiction and I think we could have our first audio induced fatality.

Rest in peace, Midrange. You shall be missed.

 

[TheFactor]

Now thats Good !!!

 

[lsiberian]

Man, I've tried setting the EQ on flat and the music just seems lifeless, and just for the record I don't crank the volume all the way up.

Maybe you just need Treblette or the Treble patch. We can wean you off slowly. Or we could do the reconditioning approach. I only need a tazr and you system. And for you to sign a few waivers.

 

[Evildude]

Maybe you just need Treblette or the Treble patch. We can wean you off slowly. Or we could do the reconditioning approach. I only need a tazr and you system. And for you to sign a few waivers.

what are you talking about?...BTW you look like bill gates... :O

 

[lsiberian]

what are you talking about?...BTW you look like bill gates... :O

shhh. I'm trying to keep a low profile.

 

[highfigh]

Glad you picked up on that reference. You must be an old fart, too.

Naturally, we didn't call them that to their faces. It just got dicey when they went to TRY to get new speakers a day or so after buying them and were told that we would have to send them out before we could authorize a "free" replacement and, if they died of natural causes they would get a replacment. Believe me, we didn't have to call them idiots in so many words. They knew what they were.

We had a goober return a pair of 6-1/2" Jensen coax speakers because they were frozen. What's worse is that an equally smart nimrod at the store exchanged them. Turns out, the guy wanted to test them, so he connected them to his battery. Apparently, he didn't figure out why teh first one froze, so he did it to the second one, too.

 

[highfigh]

Glad you picked up on that reference. You must be an old fart, too.

Older than dirt.

A friend of mine who worked at the same store I started at is originally from the Boston area and to give you an idea of his attitude at the time, his guidance counselor wrote in his file that he was "a radical cynic". It's a good thing he worked there because he's the one from our store who found Jamo and told the owner that we would be picking up that line and we became the second dealer in the US for them. It worked out verrrry well.

Anyway, at the height of the consumer audio specs race, a guy arrogantly walked into the store with his friend and said, "OK, impress me!". Phil looked up and just said, "Why bother?".

 

[lsiberian]

We had a goober return a pair of 6-1/2" Jensen coax speakers because they were frozen. What's worse is that an equally smart nimrod at the store exchanged them. Turns out, the guy wanted to test them, so he connected them to his battery. Apparently, he didn't figure out why teh first one froze, so he did it to the second one, too.

wow. That's amazing.