Audyssey commentary.

N

Nextlevelaudio

Enthusiast
Not hijacking the thread or anything, but anyone have any experience with comparision of the Neptune EQ over the Audessy?
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
NAD's version of Audessy ..I've just learned...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16103241&postcount=1785

So my question is..if company like NADs tweek Audessy, could it be that companies like Denon and Onkyo tweek it as well? If so the results would be different for different brand of receivers even if the the speaker and room acoustics remain the same...
The NAD/PSB curve is an additional target curve. Otherwise, the codes/algorithms/programs that AS supplies to the different mftrs are identical, coming from the horse's mouth.

The implementations may* differ in how the receiver assigns BM. For instance, I know with Onkyo, if AS decides any speaker has the -3db cutoff below 80hz, it simply assigns it as full-range/large. This is why we AS users are often going into the menu to assign xover after AS calibration. There may be some communication/lobbying between AS and mftrs about this type of issue in the future.

This is fine, because AS corrects down to the cutoff. IOW, raising xover has no ill effects. The problem arises with cube/tiny speakers. Say that AS decides the cutoff is 150hz, but the consumer desires a 100hz xover point. That 50hz range will never have been corrected for by AS.

I've mentioned the PSB curves on several occasions regarding NAD products. I don't assume that everyone remembers anything I might've said on multiple occasions, but I am just a tiny bit surprised you didn't notice since I know of your affinity for NAD products, at least historically.

FWIW, Alimentall is extremely opinionated. While he might hate the stock curves, there was a recent poster here at AH who just said he didn't like the PSB curve. In any case, Alimentall is a big time proponent of NAD, PSB, NHT, etc, and yes he sells all of those. He despises B&W, and no he doesn't sell those. He also might be the only person I've seen claim that he can distinguish driver material blinded, IIRC. Interesting fellow, yes.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
The NAD/PSB curve is an additional target curve. Otherwise, the codes/algorithms/programs that AS supplies to the different mftrs are identical, coming from the horse's mouth.

The implementations may* differ in how the receiver assigns BM. For instance, I know with Onkyo, if AS decides any speaker has the -3db cutoff below 80hz, it simply assigns it as full-range/large. This is why we AS users are often going into the menu to assign xover after AS calibration. There may be some communication/lobbying between AS and mftrs about this type of issue in the future.

This is fine, because AS corrects down to the cutoff. IOW, raising xover has no ill effects. The problem arises with cube/tiny speakers. Say that AS decides the cutoff is 150hz, but the consumer desires a 100hz xover point. That 50hz range will never have been corrected for by AS.

I've mentioned the PSB curves on several occasions regarding NAD products. I don't assume that everyone remembers anything I might've said on multiple occasions, but I am just a tiny bit surprised you didn't notice since I know of your affinity for NAD products, at least historically.

FWIW, Alimentall is extremely opinionated. While he might hate the stock curves, there was a recent poster here at AH who just said he didn't like the PSB curve. In any case, Alimentall is a big time proponent of NAD, PSB, NHT, etc, and yes he sells all of those. He despises B&W, and no he doesn't sell those. He also might be the only person I've seen claim that he can distinguish driver material blinded, IIRC. Interesting fellow, yes.
I only raised this because I was wondering if other manufacturers were supplying their onw curves as well and how this could possibly affect the outputs. I've got a Yamaha receiver :D and because it uses its own proprietary room corrections, I don't really care whether or not NAD worked with PSB on the audessy curves. I really don't care about Audessy for that matter. *L* I was just wondering if other receiver manufacturers worked with speaker designers is all.

I too find Alimentall very opionated and I take what he says with a grain of salt. I tend not listen to those who see this whole audio thing as black and white because as you know, this audio hobby is more subjective than objective.

Thanks for the heads up. ;)
 

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