Would someone mind updating me on the economy?

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alexwakelin

Full Audioholic
Slow day, posting from work. Here's the result of our latest round of cuts which I just received via e-mail.

1. Coffee makers, tea pots, microwaves, refrigerators, or small electrical appliances consume a lot of electricity; therefore, please take these personal items home with you by Spring Break. Coffee makers, microwaves, and refrigerators located in the break rooms can be used by all employees. Radios are fine and will continue to be allowed in offices.

2. Personal heaters and fans are also consume great amounts of electricity, and also need to go home by Spring Break. If removal of non-College heaters or fans from your area would adversely affect your health, please discuss your needs with your supervisor to explore options with facilities personnel.

3. Paper towels will be removed from all bathrooms where there are electric hand dryers.

4. All water heaters will be turned off except where water of a certain temperature is required by compliance. You can still clean your hands efficiently and effectively with cold water.
 
MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
Slow day, posting from work. Here's the result of our latest round of cuts which I just received via e-mail.
Wow. Pretty amazing to see that type of stuff, that's really someone looking to save anything they can.
 
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alexwakelin

Full Audioholic
Wow. Pretty amazing to see that type of stuff, that's really someone looking to save anything they can.
Yeah, I'd rather see things like this implemented instead of layoffs, but we're really grasping at straws to make our budget. We also met our budget without raising tuition for the 2009-2010 school year, but if it comes down to layoffs or a tuition hike I wonder which one they choose? Either way someone is going to be pissed.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
And so it begins anew.

Tent cities are sprouting up from sea to shining sea (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26776283/). Toyota, the largest car maker in the world laying off thousands in "Jobs For Life" Japan (http://layofftracker.blogspot.com/2008/12/toyota-may-layoff-for-first-time-in-24.html). The world's economy contracting for the first time since WWII with a monetary loss of $50 trillion so far this year. Stock markets across the globe tumble out of control at AIG's losses. ETC. It all has a sadly familiar ring to it.

Mark, I'm still wishing that your reasons for hope prevail, but............:(
 
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TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
And so it begins anew.

Tent cities in sprouting up from sea to shining sea (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26776283/). Toyota, the largest car maker in the world laying off thousands in "Jobs For Life" Japan (http://layofftracker.blogspot.com/2008/12/toyota-may-layoff-for-first-time-in-24.html). The world's economy contracting for the first time since WWII with a monetary loss of $50 trillion so far this year. Stock markets across the globe tumble out of control at AIG's losses. ETC. It all has a sadly familiar ring to it.

Mark, I'm still wishing that your reasons for hope prevail, but............:(
I have just watched the Warren Buffet interview on CNBC. He is concerned but up beat overall. However he has more to loose than the rest of us in this crash! So he has some self interest in talking things up.

I do however think strategy needs to be reviewed.

I'm amazed at the stupidity of officialdom always. Just imagine that some one even has to ponder the impact of turfing people out of homes and apartments has on the incidence of homelessness!

I do think we have to have a good look at homelessness in the context of having an inventory of over a million empty homes.

The banks have not only been stupid in creating the housing bubble, but they are culpable in its aftermath.

What I mean by this is they have kicked people out of houses and then not protected their assets. They have let them deteriorate fast, further damaging their liquidity position. They don't pay taxes, and local authorities are forced to cut the grass etc, to control mosquitoes.

I would propose that no bank that forecloses be allowed to keep a home vacant more than 30 days.

I would back legislation that would allow local authorities to confiscate bank owned property vacant more than 30 days, with no compensation to the bank. This would add to housing stock to house people with no homes, and provide a needed source of revenue to local authorities. It would also encourage banks to do everything possible to keep people in their homes, and failing that provide a source of needed rental property. At the same time it would force banks to protect their assets. It would also stop the increasing number of empty houses and limit the fall in house prices.

As I have said before, we need to know how big a hole the banks have dug. And yes, as Senator Shelby said at the weekend, some banks may need to go out of business.

We must not forget the poorer countries and emerging markets who are suffering terribly at present. If we don't extend a hand to them we will all pay a huge price and this thing will really drag on.

I think we have very little time left to get this right, and Warren Buffet said as much tonight. The next few weeks will determine whether we emerge from this in two or three years, or we have a 30 to 100 year depression. I just hope this does not turn into the greatest depression.

I can tell you one thing, enacting carbon trades is exactly the wrong thing to do!
 
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Exterous

Audioholic Intern
The banks have not only been stupid in creating the housing bubble, but they are culpable in its aftermath.

What I mean by this is they have kicked people out of houses and then not protected their assets. They have let them deteriorate fast, further damaging their liquidity position. They don't pay taxes, and local authorities are forced to cut the grass etc, to control mosquitoes.

I would propose that no bank that forecloses be allowed to keep a home vacant more than 30 days.

I would back legislation that would allow local authorities to confiscate bank owned property vacant more than 30 days, with no compensation to the bank. This would add to housing stock to house people with no homes, and provide a needed source of revenue to local authorities. It would also encourage banks to do everything possible to keep people in their homes, and failing that provide a source of needed rental property. At the same time it would force banks to protect their assets. It would also stop the increasing number of empty houses and limit the fall in house prices.
You would cut off a large amount of banks remaining assets at the knees. If you confiscated all homes vacant for more than 30 days the banking industry would colapse across the board and we would be in a much worse situation than we are now. Even if some survived they would lend to almost no one based on the fear of being hung out to dry if something happened to the family. Talk about a credit crunch
 
majorloser

majorloser

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EDAR's

I saw these the other day on the news. It's actually not a bad idea. It's far cheaper than refurbishing homeless shelters or building new ones. They cost about $500 each to manufacture. And they can help those already living on the street to a decent form of shelter. They took the idea from shopping carts.

http://www.edar.org/index.html
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
I saw these the other day on the news. It's actually not a bad idea. It's far cheaper than refurbishing homeless shelters or building new ones. They cost about $500 each to manufacture. And they can help those already living on the street to a decent form of shelter. They took the idea from shopping carts.

http://www.edar.org/index.html
I'm gonna put one in Joe's back yard. ;)
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I saw these the other day on the news. It's actually not a bad idea. It's far cheaper than refurbishing homeless shelters or building new ones. They cost about $500 each to manufacture. And they can help those already living on the street to a decent form of shelter. They took the idea from shopping carts.

http://www.edar.org/index.html
That's really neat.
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
I saw these the other day on the news. It's actually not a bad idea. It's far cheaper than refurbishing homeless shelters or building new ones. They cost about $500 each to manufacture. And they can help those already living on the street to a decent form of shelter. They took the idea from shopping carts.

http://www.edar.org/index.html

The possibilities are endless...(pulls out credit card)


Just think, Clint could use one to camp out in front of the theater for the new Star Trek.:eek:
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
I saw these the other day on the news. It's actually not a bad idea. It's far cheaper than refurbishing homeless shelters or building new ones. They cost about $500 each to manufacture. And they can help those already living on the street to a decent form of shelter. They took the idea from shopping carts.

http://www.edar.org/index.html
OK for a camping trip. However we need to get people displaced from homes back in houses or apartments. If we don't expect a lot of unrest and demonstrations.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
OK for a camping trip. However we need to get people displaced from homes back in houses or apartments. If we don't expect a lot of unrest and demonstrations.
I think we need to require the foreclosing banks to honor any existing leases or at least encourage them too. If people are paying their rent they shouldn't be kicked out. Heck maybe they can just sell the house to the people living there. I bet with the housing crash the people could easily make the house payments now.
 
MidnightSensi

MidnightSensi

Audioholic Samurai
How we doing?

Good day in the market huh? Are we turning the corner or just flickering?
 
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