Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 22, 2009 #21 thanks isiberian ok so that shows me how to make the box and recommends the amp and rock wool etc, but is there other things i should know such as the driver im guessing an infinity kappa 12" driver but is there other things i should buy ?? thanks for your help as i dont know much about this topic thanks
thanks isiberian ok so that shows me how to make the box and recommends the amp and rock wool etc, but is there other things i should know such as the driver im guessing an infinity kappa 12" driver but is there other things i should buy ?? thanks for your help as i dont know much about this topic thanks
Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 23, 2009 #22 hey so im now thinking about making two of these 12" infinity kappa builds and using them together as a stereo pair but (sorry for what may sound like a stupid question) will they both be able to run off my receiver denon avr-789 ?? thanks
hey so im now thinking about making two of these 12" infinity kappa builds and using them together as a stereo pair but (sorry for what may sound like a stupid question) will they both be able to run off my receiver denon avr-789 ?? thanks
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Feb 23, 2009 #23 Timmy245 said: hey so im now thinking about making two of these 12" infinity kappa builds and using them together as a stereo pair but (sorry for what may sound like a stupid question) will they both be able to run off my receiver denon avr-789 ?? thanks Click to expand... No that's an intelligent question. You will need an external amp to drive any subwoofer period. Most commerical amps use plate amps, but for the kappa project I suggest a Behringer EP2500 For this you will need to convert your sub pre-out signal from RCA to XLR, but there are numerous ways to do this. 1 Behringer ep2500 can drive 2 Kappas fairly easily. For your crossover I suggest a DCX 2496 from Behringer as well. There are numerous ways to set this up. If you have an external amp you can actually use the DCX for you whole system, but you can also use it just for the subs. Though the box is designed for a specific driver. all the Infinity Perfect 12.1s have a very similar design and response. So you could probably use any of them effectively. I have gleaned all this from reading through the thread on the project. Which I recommend. If you are willing to learn how to build the boxes then you could set yourself up for DIY speakers in the future and teach yourself a trade. It's easy to do with the right tools, patience, and caution. Remember stupid people assume they have the answers. Smart people ask for help. That's why they know more. Engineers ask questions a lot.
Timmy245 said: hey so im now thinking about making two of these 12" infinity kappa builds and using them together as a stereo pair but (sorry for what may sound like a stupid question) will they both be able to run off my receiver denon avr-789 ?? thanks Click to expand... No that's an intelligent question. You will need an external amp to drive any subwoofer period. Most commerical amps use plate amps, but for the kappa project I suggest a Behringer EP2500 For this you will need to convert your sub pre-out signal from RCA to XLR, but there are numerous ways to do this. 1 Behringer ep2500 can drive 2 Kappas fairly easily. For your crossover I suggest a DCX 2496 from Behringer as well. There are numerous ways to set this up. If you have an external amp you can actually use the DCX for you whole system, but you can also use it just for the subs. Though the box is designed for a specific driver. all the Infinity Perfect 12.1s have a very similar design and response. So you could probably use any of them effectively. I have gleaned all this from reading through the thread on the project. Which I recommend. If you are willing to learn how to build the boxes then you could set yourself up for DIY speakers in the future and teach yourself a trade. It's easy to do with the right tools, patience, and caution. Remember stupid people assume they have the answers. Smart people ask for help. That's why they know more. Engineers ask questions a lot.
Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 23, 2009 #24 thanks very much isiberian i would be lost without you answering all these questions, with the behringer ep2500 does that connect to the main receiver ? thanks again!
thanks very much isiberian i would be lost without you answering all these questions, with the behringer ep2500 does that connect to the main receiver ? thanks again!
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Feb 23, 2009 #25 Timmy245 said: thanks very much isiberian i would be lost without you answering all these questions, with the behringer ep2500 does that connect to the main receiver ? thanks again! Click to expand... I suggest you connect it with a crossover, but you probably could connect it with the receiver. You will need a cleanbox that converts from RCA to XLR. It may take a little work, but this way has many benefits. Longer upgrade time which spreads out the excitement. More things to buy. Means you get to open more packages. Learning curve. After a DIY project you will be much more knowledgeable of how stuff works. Cheaper prices.
Timmy245 said: thanks very much isiberian i would be lost without you answering all these questions, with the behringer ep2500 does that connect to the main receiver ? thanks again! Click to expand... I suggest you connect it with a crossover, but you probably could connect it with the receiver. You will need a cleanbox that converts from RCA to XLR. It may take a little work, but this way has many benefits. Longer upgrade time which spreads out the excitement. More things to buy. Means you get to open more packages. Learning curve. After a DIY project you will be much more knowledgeable of how stuff works. Cheaper prices.
Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 23, 2009 #26 sorry isiberian but theres one thing im just not getting, as i stated before i have a denon 789 this receiver has no pre-outs but can i still build these 2 subs connect them to the behringer amp then the behringer amp to my receiver .. somehow :S all gets a little confusing for me thanks again
sorry isiberian but theres one thing im just not getting, as i stated before i have a denon 789 this receiver has no pre-outs but can i still build these 2 subs connect them to the behringer amp then the behringer amp to my receiver .. somehow :S all gets a little confusing for me thanks again
A alexwakelin Full Audioholic Aug 22, 2008 475 0 0 Flagstaff, AZ Feb 23, 2009 #27 Timmy245 said: sorry isiberian but theres one thing im just not getting, as i stated before i have a denon 789 this receiver has no pre-outs but can i still build these 2 subs connect them to the behringer amp then the behringer amp to my receiver .. somehow :S all gets a little confusing for me thanks again Click to expand... Your Denon has a subwoofer preout. If you are planning on building 2 subs, you can use a y-cable to send a signal from the subwoofer preout to each channel of the Behringer amp. As said before, the ART Cleanbox is the best device to boost the signal and convert from RCA to XLR. Reactions: lsiberian
Timmy245 said: sorry isiberian but theres one thing im just not getting, as i stated before i have a denon 789 this receiver has no pre-outs but can i still build these 2 subs connect them to the behringer amp then the behringer amp to my receiver .. somehow :S all gets a little confusing for me thanks again Click to expand... Your Denon has a subwoofer preout. If you are planning on building 2 subs, you can use a y-cable to send a signal from the subwoofer preout to each channel of the Behringer amp. As said before, the ART Cleanbox is the best device to boost the signal and convert from RCA to XLR.
TLS Guy Audioholic Jedi Oct 30, 2007 27,291 0 113 79 Eagan MN Feb 23, 2009 #28 Timmy245 said: thanks isiberian ok so that shows me how to make the box and recommends the amp and rock wool etc, but is there other things i should know such as the driver im guessing an infinity kappa 12" driver but is there other things i should buy ?? thanks for your help as i dont know much about this topic thanks Click to expand... You have a bunch of sub options here, but a kappa perfect 12 build is a good rewarding project.
Timmy245 said: thanks isiberian ok so that shows me how to make the box and recommends the amp and rock wool etc, but is there other things i should know such as the driver im guessing an infinity kappa 12" driver but is there other things i should buy ?? thanks for your help as i dont know much about this topic thanks Click to expand... You have a bunch of sub options here, but a kappa perfect 12 build is a good rewarding project.
Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 23, 2009 #29 ok thanks everyone i think i understand how it all connects up now as i start this project ill post pics along the way here i will probably be asking for a ton of help along the way so i apologise in advance lol thanks again !
ok thanks everyone i think i understand how it all connects up now as i start this project ill post pics along the way here i will probably be asking for a ton of help along the way so i apologise in advance lol thanks again !
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Feb 23, 2009 #30 Timmy245 said: ok thanks everyone i think i understand how it all connects up now as i start this project ill post pics along the way here i will probably be asking for a ton of help along the way so i apologise in advance lol thanks again ! Click to expand... Why the need to apologize. We wouldn't be here if we didn't want to help. Just be thankful not apologetic. Again smart people ask. Stupid people hurt themselves.
Timmy245 said: ok thanks everyone i think i understand how it all connects up now as i start this project ill post pics along the way here i will probably be asking for a ton of help along the way so i apologise in advance lol thanks again ! Click to expand... Why the need to apologize. We wouldn't be here if we didn't want to help. Just be thankful not apologetic. Again smart people ask. Stupid people hurt themselves.
Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 24, 2009 #31 ok guys so just so i know im on the right track is this what i should be ordering for these 2 12" infinity kappa builds http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/cat/i...roduct_details?category_id=&product_id=306479 http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/cat/i...roduct_details?category_id=&product_id=575572 and obviously the 2 drivers but would someone be helpful enough to point me to a place where i can order the drivers and obviously they would need to deliver internationally as i live in australia but other than that are the two items in the links what i need (along with the drivers) and do the prices seem roughly right ? also with warranty on these products what do i do if something goes wrong with them? just cop it and replace it thanks for all the help once again Tim
ok guys so just so i know im on the right track is this what i should be ordering for these 2 12" infinity kappa builds http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/cat/i...roduct_details?category_id=&product_id=306479 http://www.djwarehouse.com.au/cat/i...roduct_details?category_id=&product_id=575572 and obviously the 2 drivers but would someone be helpful enough to point me to a place where i can order the drivers and obviously they would need to deliver internationally as i live in australia but other than that are the two items in the links what i need (along with the drivers) and do the prices seem roughly right ? also with warranty on these products what do i do if something goes wrong with them? just cop it and replace it thanks for all the help once again Tim
annunaki Moderator Dec 9, 2003 4,540 0 113 Wausau, WI Feb 24, 2009 #32 Whoa! I paid $256.00 and $279.99 for my EP2500 and DCX2496 respectively from www.zzounds.com. Use their price match link with sellers from Amazon. Good deals to be had there (zzounds) with excellent customer service!
Whoa! I paid $256.00 and $279.99 for my EP2500 and DCX2496 respectively from www.zzounds.com. Use their price match link with sellers from Amazon. Good deals to be had there (zzounds) with excellent customer service!
Timmy245 Audioholic Dec 20, 2008 127 0 18 Feb 24, 2009 #33 ohh sorry i shouldve mentioned this was australian money so the prices will be more then anywhere else (almost anywhere)
ohh sorry i shouldve mentioned this was australian money so the prices will be more then anywhere else (almost anywhere)
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Feb 24, 2009 #34 Timmy245 said: ohh sorry i shouldve mentioned this was australian money so the prices will be more then anywhere else (almost anywhere) Click to expand... It's been a while since I've been down under, but has the currency gotten that bad? I would think you could find a bit better price. I suggest you look around a bit more to see if you can find a better deal.
Timmy245 said: ohh sorry i shouldve mentioned this was australian money so the prices will be more then anywhere else (almost anywhere) Click to expand... It's been a while since I've been down under, but has the currency gotten that bad? I would think you could find a bit better price. I suggest you look around a bit more to see if you can find a better deal.
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Feb 24, 2009 #35 annunaki said: Whoa! I paid $256.00 and $279.99 for my EP2500 and DCX2496 respectively from www.zzounds.com. Use their price match link with sellers from Amazon. Good deals to be had there (zzounds) with excellent customer service! Click to expand... Does seem high, but Australia has a bit higher prices on some stuff. I think shipping to Australia may be pretty high too.
annunaki said: Whoa! I paid $256.00 and $279.99 for my EP2500 and DCX2496 respectively from www.zzounds.com. Use their price match link with sellers from Amazon. Good deals to be had there (zzounds) with excellent customer service! Click to expand... Does seem high, but Australia has a bit higher prices on some stuff. I think shipping to Australia may be pretty high too.
lsiberian Audioholic Overlord Nov 17, 2008 12,393 0 113 On A Bridge in Fort Worth Feb 24, 2009 #36 Timmy245 said: ohh sorry i shouldve mentioned this was australian money so the prices will be more then anywhere else (almost anywhere) Click to expand... You are up very late. You are a true audiophile staying up all hours of the night to find the stuff.
Timmy245 said: ohh sorry i shouldve mentioned this was australian money so the prices will be more then anywhere else (almost anywhere) Click to expand... You are up very late. You are a true audiophile staying up all hours of the night to find the stuff.
