My impressions: Sansa m200 (2 gig) vs. Zune 80 gig

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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Well, the ever-lovely Mrs. W got me an engraved 80 gig Zune for Christmas. I guess she got tired of those 2 gig Sansas we’ve been living with for the past few years and decided to drag me into the 21st century, kicking and screaming. Gotta love that woman.

I’ve been learning how to use and appreciate this beast since then, with mixed results. First off, the good stuff.

I now have forty times the capacity of my old unit! That’s hard to argue with.

The sound, with Grado SR-80s, is fantastic. Better than the Sansas.

The graphics are neat. It’s nice to see the album cover and all pertinent info at a glance on a well-lit screen. The Sansa a line of scrolling text on a hard-to read screen.

Now, the other stuff.

It’s bigger and klunkier than the Sansa, but with the graphics and storage capacity I’d say that’s an acceptable tradeoff.

The earplugs look kewl, what with the cloth wrapped wires and selection of covers to fit any ear, but they sure sound awful! But, that’s the norm with these devices, no?

There is no hint about how to operate the dang thing. They just say go to the website. This is good since you need to connect the Zune to the computer to activate it. You first need to load the Zune media player (which is like a more comprehensive WMP) and then plug in the unit to activate it.

With the Sansa, you just plugged it into a USB port and went to WMP and you were good to go, Everything was fairly intuitive.

Oh. still no instructions. A brief blurb somewhere in the included “quick start” pamphlet on how to turn it on and off would have been nice.

This thing advertises a built-in “radio”, which was a major decision in wifey’s purchase of this over an ipod. (that, and she doesn’t like itunes). And, it does have a radio, sort-of. When I go to the radio function and scan up the “dial”, it does lock into some known frequencies and, in some cases. displays some station info (Call letters and genre).

But, and this is where it gets good, or bad, depending. THERE WAS NO SOUND! Just a hiss.

I thought it was broken so I checked the instructions, which are hidden on the Zune website only to find out that you need to subscribe to these “free” radio stations. Now, maybe I’m old-fashioned, but I’ve always believed that OTA radio was free for the asking, no? We travel and don’t always have access to the NY stations. I guess I’m supposed to subscribe to the Texas stations too.

Major score FOR the Sansa here. Free radio is free there. Just tune to the station and you’re off and running. That’ll still be in our travel kit, you betcha.

Likewise, the Sansa may well be the chosen companion for the car. I can easily hold it in my right hand and use my thumb to skip songs while driving. This will be more of a task with the Zune. Ergonometricly, I think the Sansa wins here.

All in all, it’s a mixed bag. Sometimes letting go of the old ways is hard, but when you have to pay for “free” radio, something is wrong.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
I used to own the original 30 gig zune, and I didn't much care for it. I have used several of the Sansa players and like them much more... even moreso than my ipod. I really can't stand to use an .mp3 player that doesn't let you just drag and drop the music files onto the player, which is my biggest gripe about ipods, you MUST use itunes to manage your media, and itunes doesn't automatically update when new files are added to your music folder.
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
I have a Sansa Clip 2gig I use for workouts and love it. Easy to use, very compact and the rechargeable battery lasts forever. Best of all is I played less than $80 for it.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Oh yeah, Thanks. You reminded me of one more thing.

I have a Sansa Clip 2gig I use for workouts and love it. Easy to use, very compact and the rechargeable battery lasts forever. Best of all is I played less than $80 for it.
My Sansa uses a commonly available AAA battery which lasts for a long, long time and is a snap (literally) to replace on the go.

The Zune recharges via either a USB port or a wall wart (sold separately, naturally). So, I guess I needto buy that recharger and carry it with us when we travel or carry a laptop with us, which is not always the case.

Point to Sansa.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
I don't know if you guys have seen the new slot music players from Sandisk. But my company prints the labels for them. My sales rep just bought one the other day and brought it in. I was surprised at how heavy it is. For its size, it's heavy as hell. I guess some of that comes from the fact that is uses 1 AA battery as opposed to AAA's.

My next biggest complaint about it is that it doesn't have a display of any kind. Pretty stupid in my opinion. How am I supposed to know which song I'm listening to? The SD music cards are so small, that I'm sure they're hella easy to lose. Plus, they cost the same amount as a CD. That is also stupid to me. If you want me to switch from CD's to SD cards, then you need to do something to incentivize it for me. Make the SD cards $10 and maybe I would consider it.

All in all, I think the slot radio players are a stupid idea and I don't see them possibly succeeding.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I'm of two minds about those things.

I don't know if you guys have seen the new slot music players from Sandisk. But my company prints the labels for them. My sales rep just bought one the other day and brought it in. I was surprised at how heavy it is. For its size, it's heavy as hell. I guess some of that comes from the fact that is uses 1 AA battery as opposed to AAA's.

My next biggest complaint about it is that it doesn't have a display of any kind. Pretty stupid in my opinion. How am I supposed to know which song I'm listening to? The SD music cards are so small, that I'm sure they're hella easy to lose. Plus, they cost the same amount as a CD. That is also stupid to me. If you want me to switch from CD's to SD cards, then you need to do something to incentivize it for me. Make the SD cards $10 and maybe I would consider it.

All in all, I think the slot radio players are a stupid idea and I don't see them possibly succeeding.
On one hand, I'm glad they are helping to keep you in a job. That's a good thing.

OTOH, I did see these in the store alongside of a rack of thir source media. My worst fears are confirmed. They seem to be a way to release, for lack of a better description, a CD on a tiny memory chip. Talk about cheap ways to distribute music!

I'm sure it's non-duplicatible for downloading to a CPU, too. If I'm wrong, somebody please correct me. If they are stored in at least WMA format and are downloadable to my computer (I don't see readers for these, do you?) then perhaps I'll change my mind. Until then.. meh!
 
Swerve

Swerve

Junior Audioholic
I really can't stand to use an .mp3 player that doesn't let you just drag and drop the music files onto the player, which is my biggest gripe about ipods, you MUST use itunes to manage your media, and itunes doesn't automatically update when new files are added to your music folder.
This is what I hate about my wife's ipod touch. She gets me to update her media for her!
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I stand corrected on that FM rant.

I tried it again and this time sound came out. Not as clean as on the Sansa, bit id is free. Methinks it was just setting up the presets at first? Decent instructions would have helped here.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
This is what I hate about my wife's ipod touch. She gets me to update her media for her!
I found a program that will automatically update your itunes library, and you just set the program to run using the windows scheduler, and it will run as often as you want. I set mine to run at 2 AM every morning. The only thing is, is if I download something and want to put it on my ipod right away, I have to manually add the file/folder.

Just google for itunes library updated and you should be able to find it, it's very simple to setup.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
On one hand, I'm glad they are helping to keep you in a job. That's a good thing.

OTOH, I did see these in the store alongside of a rack of thir source media. My worst fears are confirmed. They seem to be a way to release, for lack of a better description, a CD on a tiny memory chip. Talk about cheap ways to distribute music!

I'm sure it's non-duplicatible for downloading to a CPU, too. If I'm wrong, somebody please correct me. If they are stored in at least WMA format and are downloadable to my computer (I don't see readers for these, do you?) then perhaps I'll change my mind. Until then.. meh!
Well, we were printing a ton of labels for them before X-mas. But since then? A whole lot of nothing. I don't think they're selling very well. Supposedly the SD cards have no DRM. So you're supposed to be able to play them in any device that will accept an SD card.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
I was looking at those slot players on the sansa site, and didn't think they made much sense. I got both of my parents a 2 gig sansa clip since they go to the gym and do a lot of yardwork, and so far they love them. The hardest part was getting them to learn how to rip their cd's and put the music on the player, but I think they got the hang of it now.
 

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