Advice on current system. DIY infinity etc

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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
Tested it out and not so good. I get a loud hum through the entire system when i plug the xlr-rca cable in.

also i am not geting any output pluged into the DCX2496
i can get output if i plug it in directly to the ep2500
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Tested it out and not so good. I get a loud hum through the entire system when i plug the xlr-rca cable in.

also i am not geting any output pluged into the DCX2496
i can get output if i plug it in directly to the ep2500
You need to use the GUI software and interface with the DCX with a serial cable. It's much easier to check settings through the GUI. You proably have an input muted, or you may have signal routing set up incorrectly in the unit.

The hum: if you are sure the cable is made right(pins 1 and 3 of the XLR should be shorted/soldered together in the plug), then you may have a ground loop.You would need a device such as the ART DTI box to properly remove this loop. As a benefit, you need no adapters with the DTI. I has RCA/1/4" and XLR inputs and outputs. It balances the signal also from unbalanced. It uses transformers to convert the signal internally and to remove the ground loop. This problem is not common, but it does persist in some cases due to the inconsistent grounding methods used in consumer unbalanced gear.

-Chris
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
I will double check the settings on the dcx later today after work.

i have a bt24 20hz hpf and a but24 80hz lpf setup should i use the but48 ?
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Hum, (no pun intended) I ordered the ART DTI but never even considered where it goes. So between the DCX and amp...huh? I guess I need another XLR cable or can I use the RCA to XLR cable that I already have?
The hum: if you are sure the cable is made right(pins 1 and 3 of the XLR should be shorted/soldered together in the plug), then you may have a ground loop.You would need a device such as the ART DTI box to properly remove this loop. As a benefit, you need no adapters with the DTI. I has RCA/1/4" and XLR inputs and outputs. It balances the signal also from unbalanced. It uses transformers to convert the signal internally and to remove the ground loop. This problem is not common, but it does persist in some cases due to the inconsistent grounding methods used in consumer unbalanced gear.

-Chris
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Hum, (no pun intended) I ordered the ART DTI but never even considered where it goes. So between the DCX and amp...huh? I guess I need another XLR cable or can I use the RCA to XLR cable that I already have?
The DTI goes between the unbalanced connection and balanced connection. Not between a balanced connection and balanced connection.

The DTI has 1/4, XLR and RCA jacks on both it's input and output side, so you need no adapters. Just use for example, regular RCA cable to connect to the input side, then a regular XLR cable on the output to balanced pro device side.

-Chris
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
Can anyone give me a crossover setting and routing for the dcx so i dont blow my sub. haha that would suck.
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
Ok fixed the hum by cutting the shield ground wire. also have set up the dcx so i now get output though not sure on the crossover settings yet. I must say so far without any equalization yet this is the best sounding sub i have heard!
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
For the crossover you just set it to blend in with your mains well. I have mine set at 69hz, you may want to set yours higher or lower. You can also change the phase with the dcx and you might want to play with that a bit and see if you hear any difference.
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
on the hpf i have it set to 20hz with but48 and but18 on the lpf 80hz now what should i do there?
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
on the hpf i have it set to 20hz with but48 and but18 on the lpf 80hz now what should i do there?
Actually, set the high pass filter to 20hz, 2nd order butterworth. This will allow for more extension, and still protect the driver from unloading under tuning.

You need to use an external amp to your main speakers so you can control both the subwoofers and mains with the DCX to get your optimal integration. The built in crossover system in the receiver is primitive and inflexible. If you are using stereo/dual subs, and placing each one within 3 or 4 feet of each main, I would cross at 80-85Hz, 4th order. Fine tune the adjustments for main and sub until you get the smoothest measured response.

I must say so far without any equalization yet this is the best sounding sub i have heard!
Just wait until you find optimal room position and apply some correction EQ. :) BTW, you can make the sub sound like any level of 'tightness' that you so desire using the DCX. After you have set it up and applied your correction EQ, etc.; activate a low shelving filter of 6db/octave rate. Center it's frequency at about 35hz as a starting point. Now set the filter for -2 to -4 dB. This will apply a subtle low end taper, and now it will sound essentially like a highly dampened sealed box. Some people prefer this type of sound. Well, you can have that sound if so desired, and yet still have the massive output levels and low distortion available from this ported system.

-Chris
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
Thanks! one last thing should i enable the low frequency protection on the ep2500 as well?
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
What would be the best protection on the sub other than the butterworth 12db or 2nd order? would linkwitz rilley be better and at 24 or 48db? Thanks

please excuse my spelling and lack of knowledge on crossovers :D
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
What would be the best protection on the sub other than the butterworth 12db or 2nd order? would linkwitz rilley be better and at 24 or 48db? Thanks

please excuse my spelling and lack of knowledge on crossovers :D
Better? The filter I suggested will protect the driver sufficiently. If you want to be more aggressive, sure, use 24db/octave, but I have calculated the excursion potentials with the 2nd order Butterworth filter and it will be perfectly safe. no matter what content is in the signal.

-Chris
 
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DemiSlayer

Junior Audioholic
Update for a long time lol.

Am trying to run one ep2500 bridged to one of the infinity subs tho it seams its bottoming out the sub and not that loud. I am not running any eq at moment and have tried many subsonic filters.

I am currently adding a few THT to cover the LFE for HT tho would like to retain the infinity for the mains and for music.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Update for a long time lol.

Am trying to run one ep2500 bridged to one of the infinity subs tho it seams its bottoming out the sub and not that loud. I am not running any eq at moment and have tried many subsonic filters.

I am currently adding a few THT to cover the LFE for HT tho would like to retain the infinity for the mains and for music.
It's because your sub is ported. Don't run a ported sub without a High pass filter!
 

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