j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
The specs for DVD stated a minimum of some form of Dolby, but for BD that must not be the case.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
The specs for DVD stated a minimum of some form of Dolby, but for BD that must not be the case.
That is what it looks like. I tired to call Dolby to conform this one way or the other but to find a number and the right person to call is impossible. Dolby does not want to talk to the public and the operator only has extensions by people's names, not departments or divisions.:mad:
 
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allargon

Audioholic General
That is what I was afraid of:mad:
The lead into to movie, the title selection page is in DD and the movie itself is DTS:mad:

There goes that DVD out the window:mad: I am frustrated. I thought some form of DD must be on Blu-Ray; I guess not. That will leave many unhappy, unless you have a newer processor.:eek:

And, to top it off, I tried to find a phone number for Dolby Labs. None to be found at their web page:mad: The yellow pages had one but the phone person could not direct me to a department in Dolby who would know the standards. They only direct you to a person by name.:mad:
They certainly made it hard to contact them by phone.:eek:

Same goes for Universal and my email to them was misinterpreted. Not a good day.
Err... DD/DD+/Dolby TrueHD is not even required on HD DVDs. Only DVD required DD. Plenty of Blu-Ray's only come with multichannel PCM. Plenty of Blu-Ray's and HD DVD's only come with DTS or DTS-HD (HR or MA).

Blu-Ray players are required to be able to decode 448 (or lower)/640Kbps DD and 768K/1.5Mbps DTS as well as process PCM. That's it.

HD DVD players are required to be able to decode 448 (or lower) DD, 768K/1.5Mbps DTS, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD as well as process PCM. That's it.

Players that can't handle DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA can handle the DTS core. That DTS core can be bitstreamed over HDMI or SPDIF to a capable receiver or converted to PCM to go over HDMI to a capable receiver or converted to analog to go out over multichannel analog outputs or even just the red/white RCA cables to a TV set or stereo/ProLogic (Damn, I feel old!) receiver.

Now, to the mtrycrafts question. I've noticed that Universal Blu-Ray's use DD for the initial menu and screen, then, of course, DTS-HD MA for the main feature. No worries with that. A receiver bitstreamed would show DD for the menu then either DTS (for a non high-res decoding setup) or DTS-HD Mstr or MA for the main feature. A receiver getting decoded audio (like mine) over HDMI from a player (e.g. the PS3) would show multichannel PCM throughout the entire process.

Now, if you have a really, really old surround receiver that only decodes DD (and no DTS), my advice is to use the multichannel analog outputs of your player into your receiver to hear DTS, DTS-HD, DTS-HD MA audio. If that's not an option...err...you can do two channel out of your player then use your receiver's ProLogic function to fake the surrounds. It's not optimal. But, it's an option.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Err... DD/DD+/Dolby TrueHD is not even required on HD DVDs. Only DVD required DD. Plenty of Blu-Ray's only come with multichannel PCM. Plenty of Blu-Ray's and HD DVD's only come with DTS or DTS-HD (HR or MA).

Blu-Ray players are required to be able to decode 448 (or lower)/640Kbps DD and 768K/1.5Mbps DTS as well as process PCM. That's it.

HD DVD players are required to be able to decode 448 (or lower) DD, 768K/1.5Mbps DTS, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD as well as process PCM. That's it.

Players that can't handle DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA can handle the DTS core. That DTS core can be bitstreamed over HDMI or SPDIF to a capable receiver or converted to PCM to go over HDMI to a capable receiver or converted to analog to go out over multichannel analog outputs or even just the red/white RCA cables to a TV set or stereo/ProLogic (Damn, I feel old!) receiver.

Now, to the mtrycrafts question. I've noticed that Universal Blu-Ray's use DD for the initial menu and screen, then, of course, DTS-HD MA for the main feature. No worries with that. A receiver bitstreamed would show DD for the menu then either DTS (for a non high-res decoding setup) or DTS-HD Mstr or MA for the main feature. A receiver getting decoded audio (like mine) over HDMI from a player (e.g. the PS3) would show multichannel PCM throughout the entire process.

Now, if you have a really, really old surround receiver that only decodes DD (and no DTS), my advice is to use the multichannel analog outputs of your player into your receiver to hear DTS, DTS-HD, DTS-HD MA audio. If that's not an option...err...you can do two channel out of your player then use your receiver's ProLogic function to fake the surrounds. It's not optimal. But, it's an option.

Yes, that is what it seems to be the case, no mandatory audio codec on BluRay. I went over my recent purchase of BD discs and it seems Fox is one that uses DTS most often for the English audio:mad:
My only option now is to get a new processor as I hate to give up my faithful boombox and don't really want to do prologic from BD:mad:
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
And yet we see all these FOREIGN Chinese movies with all THREE Dolby TrueHD (DD), DTS-MA (DTS), and PCM on the same disc!!!

So if they can afford to do that, hmmmm, why can't the US studios afford that?

If not, at least do plain DD & DTS in addition to one of the HD Audio formats on every disc!!!
 
T

thm

Enthusiast
i saw this move and it was waist of time
curve the bullet lol, wtf came up with that idea
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
i saw this move and it was waist of time
curve the bullet lol, wtf came up with that idea
Oh, come on. It's Sci-Fi fun!

I thought it was a cool idea.

I loved the movie.
 
D

Dizastical

Audioholic Intern
Did anyone esle notice durring this movie that the front left sounds are stronger (a bit louder) then the right? I thought it was my HT system untill I put in the hulk and it was perfectly centered again. I noticed it right from the opening. Just seemed heavy on the left for some reason. Anyone else?

Dave
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Did anyone esle notice durring this movie that the front left sounds are stronger (a bit louder) then the right? I thought it was my HT system untill I put in the hulk and it was perfectly centered again. I noticed it right from the opening. Just seemed heavy on the left for some reason. Anyone else?

Dave
I did not notice.

But maybe I'm not as keen as you.

Heck, I didn't even notice the aspect ratio changed throughout "The Dark Knight" due to the IMAX scenes until everyone talked about it!:D
 

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