modern equivelent to Screenplay 4805

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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Ahhhh…so that’s how to you “thank” people – I was wondering about that.

The reason I ask is because if I upgrade to a projector that has HDMI and Component inputs and I choose to run the 1080p blueray and 1080i hd dvd player’s video signal through my Onkyo 605 with hdmi, then a hdmi cable to the projector, I heard that receivers in general never do a great job of video pass-thru.

Here are some snippets from a cnet review about the onkyo 605’s video:

“The most disappointing aspect of the TX-SR605's video performance is that it either lacks or has poor 2:3 pull-down processing.”

“We also noticed that the TX-SR605 was softening the resolution of images that it deinterlaced; this was confirmed on the HQV test disc as well. . In areas where there should have been detail, there was just a solid color. On the other hand, the TX-SR605 did a very good job with several other tests on the HQV test suite, including tests with a rotating white line, three pivoting fingers, and footage of a waving flag.”

“While the video performance of the TX-SR605 was disappointing, in our experience subpar video processing by AV receivers is common. We've mentioned it in reviews of the Sony STR-DA5200ES, the Yamaha RX-V1700, and the Pioneer VSX-82TXS. The irony is that the more receivers take advantage of the single-cable HDMI convenience, the more important proper video processing becomes. For example, you can bypass much of the processing in the TX-SR605 by running a separate cable for component video and changing the input on the TV when using analog sources.”


Maybe the difference comes down to personal visual feeling and convenience (not unplugging/plugging component cables from different players all the time)
At the risk of talking over my head:

If its just BD and HD-DVD you are worried about, you should be just fine. Its the component connections that are not connected directly to display, but to receiver first, that you might hate. If video component direct to display, and SPDIF to receiver, no worries. Don't worry about HDMI connection.

edit: Im running HDMI x2 thru receiver, BD and HD-DVD, outputting thru a 35 ft Mono Hdmi cable, to JVC projector, to 159" screen, and its the most beautiful pic anyone I know personally has ever seen in their life, period.
 
N

Needbass

Junior Audioholic
At the risk of talking over my head:

If its just BD and HD-DVD you are worried about, you should be just fine. Its the component connections that are not connected directly to display, but to receiver first, that you might hate. If video component direct to display, and SPDIF to receiver, no worries. Don't worry about HDMI connection.

edit: Im running HDMI x2 thru receiver, BD and HD-DVD, outputting thru a 35 ft Mono Hdmi cable, to JVC projector, to 159" screen, and its the most beautiful pic anyone I know personally has ever seen in their life, period.

Okay - thats good to know - by the way, your "edit" makes me drool like a dog looking at a steak

what model is you JVC proj?
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Okay - thats good to know - by the way, your "edit" makes me drool like a dog looking at a steak
WOOF WOOF! heheh :p Thanks.. you know.. doing a fine PJ setup is not all that more expensive than many large plasmas. In fact possibly less expensive than Kuros...

what model is you JVC proj?
JVC RS-1u as open box from AVS store. Only had 3 hrs on it, full warranty, saved a TON (like 1/3). It wasn't even in the running until I saw the deal. They sold out all on the first day. :eek:
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
The reason I ask is because if I upgrade to a projector that has HDMI and Component inputs and I choose to run the 1080p blueray and 1080i hd dvd player’s video signal through my Onkyo 605 with hdmi, then a hdmi cable to the projector, I heard that receivers in general never do a great job of video pass-thru.
Some receivers do an exceptional job with video conversion within the box, while others don't do a great job. The question is more about whether the 605 allows for true video pass-thru or whether you need to go through the processing within the receiver first.

I know that most Denon receivers allow for video to pass through the receiver untouched, or processed, depending on what the end user would prefer.

The goal is that you don't actually want the receiver to do a thing to your video source, and if you find that your receiver does, then you may want to consider spending 100 bucks or so on an external HDMI switcher and pair it with a HDMI splitter from Monoprice. This (in theory) should solve your issue, since HDMI will then be sent to both the receiver as well as the display with zero loss in quality to either one.
 
C

conchchowder

Audiophyte
+1, the thank button is good! lol (if we actually helped of course!)

Here's a link to a good read about 1080p over component. I was about to call BMXTRIX a liar until I read that it's not a hardware issue, it's a content piracy issue. PS3 will output 1080p games over component cables all day long (I ran mine this way). But I guess I never noticed that the blu-ray vids were bumped down to 1080i...
The same thing happens on a HTPC.

(Freaky that you can't quote a post that has a link in it (you have to delete the link until you have 5 posts) if you are a n00b...even though it wasn't your link!)
 
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