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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
so i noticed after i hooked it up that my plus/2 doesnt have the dials on it for a PEQ????? when i ordered it from bstock it said nothing about that it just said no damage to it.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
so i noticed after i hooked it up that my plus/2 doesnt have the dials on it for a PEQ????? when i ordered it from bstock it said nothing about that it just said no damage to it.
E-mail SVS. I'm sure they will send you new dials.
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
actually SVS emailed me back and said the textured black is not offered with PEQ control.
they recommend an external control like Behringer DSP 1124P.

what kind of benefit does a PEQ control bring to Home theater?
 
annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
what kind of benefit does a PEQ control bring to Home theater?
Big benefits! You can custom tailor/balance the response to your liking based upon the room's effect. The Behringer DCX2496 is actually a much more versatile tool but either one would work quite well.
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
thanks i will look into it. I will have to research it because i have never used one and have to find out if it requires buying additional things besides the control like wires etc. SVS talked about buying some software for it.
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
A little pricier product would be a Velodyne SMS-1.

Just thought I would let you know what other options are out there...


Here is an interesting thread to read... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1028464

Discussion has led to a product called the Anti-Mode 8033, which seems to be quite an interesting little unit...

Main difference of 8033s EQ compared to the SMS-1 is the algorithm of automatic calibration, which has very different approach that takes advantage of the new Anti-Mode technology.

In numbers, 8033 has improved frequency resolution, it has computation power to compute 3 times more parametric filters and the calibration is processed iteratively in 4 phases (which contributes a lot to the quality the results made by automatic EQ.). 8033 also has multi-point algorithm which uses smarter-than-average cost-functions. SMS-1 has some benefits like remote controller, cross-over and more options to colorize the sound with own EQ settings, but it is also more expensive.

The filters are a bit different between these two. Anti-Mode 8033 uses new Anti-Modal oscillation filters which are custom designed in z-domain. This z-domain of is virtually non-restricted for the AM filters, which means that accuracy of even a single AMF is better on average than accuracy of tunable bi-quad (Q-value, center frequency, damping, phase angle etc.). This results in less modal post-ringing, which would happen if the exact center frequencies (and anti-Q values) are not met, and flatter result in power response. In short, SMS-1 is not able to make steep enough corrections in some cases because of the sparse spectral resolution and too limited tuning parameters of PEQs.

DC-block on 8033 is tighter, so A/D D/A converter response of 8033 reaches lower limits (-3dB at 5Hz for flat setting). This means it can be used also with ultra low reproducing subs, where SMS-1 can't. For average subs this has no meaning. To get best results with SMS-1, manual tuning with computer and REW is required. This is because even SMS-1 has the ability to plot the response to TV, it is way too smoothed to be used effectively for finer tuning.

Finally the decision is up to what it is you are exactly looking for the most, cross-over with some kind of EQ abilities that can (needs) to be tuned manually, or more precise auto-EQ. The price range is also different, 8033 costing about 200$ less.
 
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annunaki

annunaki

Moderator
Most likely, with the Behringer products, you will need some Female RCA to Male XLR adaptors.
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Most likely, with the Behringer products, you will need some Female RCA to Male XLR adaptors.
Yes.... they are readily available at any music store..... They usually run about $10.00 each but I have seen them cheaper...
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
thanks i appreciate it. the next upgrade is the TV. Since i have this all set up in parents basement the speaker set up is all wrong. as you can see in the pics the right front is very close to the TV and I cant spread out the mains because the pole is in the way. the sub is on a wall that opens up into a big area and cant be put in a corner. In september we will be in our house then the fun begins!!!!
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
dial in

so heres the deal. I havent even had time to really demo this thing or watch a movie. i watched 2 minutes of war of the worlds and that was it. i have been playing music as i am taking care of the little guy.
I tried to dial it in yesterday and here is my experience.
I didnt have much time but anyway, the crossover on reciver 80, bass set to sub out, speakers set to small. sub level at about 10 to 11 oclock and receiver sub trim level at -5. i calibrated all the speakers at 75 then when i got the sub the spl said it was much lower, i had to bump the trim up to +5 in order to get to 76db. this is way to high to me.
this seemed strange to me so i just bumped it back down to -5 and will mess around with it the weekend.
any input?
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
i normally start with a 0db trim. then adjust the subwoofer gain to match the other channels. (no need for +5db trim)
 
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Buckeye_Nut

Audioholic Field Marshall
PS...

My Plus2 has given me a lot of enjoyment.

Of course...I am biased!!


My plus2 is black, but I'm sure you can see why
;)
 
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moreira85

Audioholic Chief
so after messing around tonight a little the SVS is decent for music however i put in Ratatouille tonight and only watched a couple scenes and HOLY CRAP IT SCARED THE HECK OUT OF ME AND MY WIFE. I barely had the volume up then all of a sudden my chest and and the house started shaking. this thing is crazy!!
 
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