So Obama shows he is nothing new......

speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Oh, there have been far worse presidents. I won't say that he's in the top half, but he's definitely not on the bottom.

Let's see what public oppinion is in another 20 years. The next 4 to 8 years can always be worse.
As I alluded to earlier this is MY opinion. I am by no means an expert. But, I can easily say that in all of my soon to be 41 (ouch) years on this planet that George Bush is the absolute worse President. Say what you will, but at least most Presidents get something right. Too bad, I can NOT say the same about George Bush. Quite frankly, I will be glad when he is outa there to say the LEAST. Others may feel differently and that is fine by me. However, most of the people that I get to talk to feel pretty much the same way for whatever reasons they may have. The scary part is, how much more damge is he going to do before leaving office-I am sure a moron like him will find several things. Ones that benefit him the most. After all, he just loves to take away from those whom have it the least.

Cheers,

Phil
 
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chadnliz

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Anyone who refers to President Bush is an idiot, moron, stupid or any other way to put it is showing us more of their own lack of intelligence than any proof of George Bush's.....say what you want but he would not get to where he is at by being stupid. It takes a basic lack of intelligence to assume or assert our President is a moron and I am glad these folks will never be considered for President.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Anyone who refers to President Bush is an idiot, moron, stupid or any other way to put it is showing us more of their own lack of intelligence than any proof of George Bush's.....say what you want but he would not get to where he is at by being stupid. It takes a basic lack of intelligence to assume or assert our President is a moron and I am glad these folks will never be considered for President.
Chad, like I said it is my opinion. You have yours and I have mine. But, I just do NOT care for George Bush. Perhaps, my alluding to him as a moron is a bit strong. Guess, I am expressing some of my anger towards him and what he stands for. It is okay to disagree with me as I am by no means an expert on politics. But, the politics that affect me the most are only some of the reasons why I do not care for George Bush. No pun intended towards you at all. You are entitled to your opinion and so am I. Furthermore, I respect the Office of the President, but I do NOT respect George Bush.

Cheers,

Phil
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

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For those who want to impugn John McCain by transferring their malice towards President Bush to Mr. McCain, I must say the Mr. McCain is nothing like President Bush. That much is evident even beyond the borders of the United States.

Mr. McCain has dedicated his life to the service of the United States, even to the point of placing his service to the country over his own life. Remember, he was given the option of being released as a POW because of his father's position. He chose to remain a POW until ALL POW's were released. That is a mark of dedication, integrity and honor. It may have been 40 years since those events, but he has consistently shown that same dedication, honor, integrity and service to his country over those 40 years.

Further, Mr. McCain is well known for his bipartisan dealings with liberal Democrats. One of the key arguments against McCain by Republicans is that he is too liberal and too likely to carry out key points of the liberal agenda. However it may be seen by die-hard Republicans, it should be clear that McCain is willing to support any idea that he sees in the best interest of the nation, regardless of whether those ideas are initiated on the Democrat or Republican side of the House.

It should also be noted that McCain's length and breadth of service gives him the knowledge, experience and perspective to make intelligent decisions regarding the future of the country. When you compare Mr. McCain's record of service against any other potential candidate, nobody else can show show such a longstanding record of dedicated and ethical service, nor can they show a record of his willingness to accept ideas from across the aisle that would be beneficial to the nation.

Obama barely has a record of public service, his motives and integrity are subject to question due to his church's questionable radical political agenda and his campaign appears bereft of concrete proposals to deal with the nation's foreign or domestic concerns. By any measurable standard, Obama pales in comparison to McCain's lifetime of dedicated, honorable service to the country.
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

Audioholic Field Marshall
Ann Coulter For President

Sean Hannity For Vice
Let me guess- Dr. Laura for Surgeon General, Montgomery Burns as Secretary of the Treasury, and Captain Hook as Secretary of Commerce? :D
 
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chadnliz

Senior Audioholic
Speakerman, I wasnt talking to you diectly as this is an opinion held by many so it was just a general opinion of mine and I hope you didnt take it as an attack.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
Let me guess- Dr. Laura for Surgeon General, Montgomery Burns as Secretary of the Treasury, and Captain Hook as Secretary of Commerce? :D
You forgot homer simpson for fda, maxwell smart cia director, peter griffen sect. of education, clint deboer chairman fcc, ect ect....
 
Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
It is rather fashionable to bash George W. these days, and many people who do so, only do it out of following the trend without any real reason, other than to jump aboard the bandwagon. Let's face it, George W. Bush leaves a hell of a lot to be desired, but I wouldn't necessarily say he has been the worst President in US History. Let's also face the fact that he is due out of the office in a short few months, while we should be focusing instead on the future of this country and the next one to lead it.

Obama, for all of his glamorous speaches and he is a powerful speaker and can get people rallied behind him, falls extremely short of the mark of what it takes to be a great President. Just my humble opinion here. You can't lead a country such as the United States on passion alone. For example, as much as he is touting McCain as the third term for George W., I would dare say he represents the next term for Jimmy Carter and all of his failed policies. :cool:
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Anyone who refers to President Bush is an idiot, moron, stupid or any other way to put it is showing us more of their own lack of intelligence than any proof of George Bush's.....say what you want but he would not get to where he is at by being stupid. It takes a basic lack of intelligence to assume or assert our President is a moron and I am glad these folks will never be considered for President.
Listen to just about ANY speech George Bush has ever given and he sure comes across as stupid. Being a bad public speaker doesn't automatically mean the guy is an idiot, but it sure alters my perception of him. I'm sorry, but the leader of the free world should be able to get his point across without putting his foot in his mouth.

I agree that McCain seems like a better candidate than Bush, but that's not saying very much. I also agree that Bush has been one of the worst President's ever. Certainly the worst one of my lifetime.

I too wish that we had a more than 2-party system. In the last election, I was definitely unhappy with Kerry as my only choice, but there wasn't any other. I actually liked the Libertarian candidate better. But voting Libertarian would have been simply throwing my vote away. Why vote for a candidate that has NO chance of winning?

Right now, Obama definitely has my vote. I seriously doubt anyone can be worse than Bush has been. But I don't envy Obama or McCain. Whomever takes over this year is going to be inheriting the biggest pile of crap ever. The current state of this country is so bad, I'm pretty discouraged that anyone is going to be able to turn things around.
 
aberkowitz

aberkowitz

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You forgot homer simpson for fda, maxwell smart cia director, peter griffen sect. of education, clint deboer chairman fcc, ect ect....
Peter Griffin was an awful omission on my part, thanks for setting me straight!!!

Do you really think Clint could pass the Senate confirmation hearings? I've heard rumors about late nights spent with HDMI cables and Absinthe :).
 
Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
This should probably go in the 'Jokes' thread, but seemed more poignant here...

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a 'post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was.

The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb *** put him up there.'
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
This should probably go in the 'Jokes' thread, but seemed more poignant here...

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Bush and his job as President.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Bush is a 'post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was.

The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb *** put him up there.'
Fixed it for ya. :D
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
Listen to just about ANY speech George Bush has ever given and he sure comes across as stupid. Being a bad public speaker doesn't automatically mean the guy is an idiot, but it sure alters my perception of him. I'm sorry, but the leader of the free world should be able to get his point across without putting his foot in his mouth.
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Watch out, he will be reading this on the INTERNETS:).
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
I haven't read the entire thread, but will offer my $0.02.

History has shown that experience doesn't equate to a great president. Some of the greatest presidents in our history had little experience. T. Roosevelt, FDR, Woodrow Wilson, John Adams to name a few. And some experienced people were terrible presidents. James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, Warren Harding to name a few. I'm willing to give a new guy a shot as it's generally young idealists who change the world for the better. I don't think Obama can do any worst than Bush.
 
Halon451

Halon451

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I'm willing to give a new guy a shot as it's generally young idealists who change the world for the better. I don't think Obama can do any worst than Bush.
I hope the rest of the voters out there are a little more selective in their reasoning than this... this isn't tryouts for Little League after all. :eek:
 

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