I need some guidance on HTIB

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lostsouls

Audiophyte
Hello all,

I am looking for an HTIB for around USD 400. I am just looking for a good system to connect to a HDTV ( which I am planning to buy) and watch movies with DVD player. As I am new to all this I am not sure which one should I buy. I have come up with the following HT systems. Please let me know which one is better and also whether any other better HTIB comes around for the same price.

Onkyo HT-S760
(No HDMI)

Onkyo HT-SR800

Onkyo HT-S3100


Also does the receiver need HDMI inputs/HDTV switching to get HD video on TV from DVD player?

And Will I get surround sound from HDTV without HDMI inputs in receiver?

Thanks
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Hello all,

I am looking for an HTIB for around USD 400. I am just looking for a good system to connect to a HDTV ( which I am planning to buy) and watch movies with DVD player. As I am new to all this I am not sure which one should I buy. I have come up with the following HT systems. Please let me know which one is better and also whether any other better HTIB comes around for the same price.

Onkyo HT-S760
(No HDMI)

Onkyo HT-SR800

Onkyo HT-S3100


Also does the receiver need HDMI inputs/HDTV switching to get HD video on TV from DVD player?

And Will I get surround sound from HDTV without HDMI inputs in receiver?

Thanks
Without looking at the description/specs for each of the packages I couldn't say which version is the best bang for the buck but I would suggest Onkyo HTIB systems. They use the same receiver (re-branded with a different model number) as the 5xx series. The speakers are the weak link in an all-in-one system but will work fine until you feel the need to upgrade and when you do the receiver will still work fine with any new speakers.

HDMI 'switching' is what all receivers do, meaning you can have multiple HDMI inputs and only one HDMI output and switch between them but some manufacturers have confused the issue (IMO) by using the term 'switching' to mean 'repeating' which is better than 'pass-thru'. You don't need HDMI unless you have source components that have HDMI outputs.

You can get surround sound in a number of ways. If the source has optical or coax digital outputs, you will get DD/DTS and the receiver will decode it. If the source does not, you can still get simulated surround using analog connections by using a matrix decoder like PLII on the receiver. [Note that it is 'simulated' in the sense that it takes cues from 2 channel audio to extrapolate the extra channels. It is very convincing - PLII works extremely well.]
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Get sr800.. they have best speakers.
No, stop. Now you are spilling this into other threads. You don't have basis for these remarks unless you own this system, even then it would be your opinion. If you do have this system, it means you would have been trolling and searching for the B& hammer.;)
 
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lostsouls

Audiophyte
Thanks for the really quick replies !!!

The ratings at reviews.cnet.com project SR 800 to be one of the best HTIB systems. The one drawback about its HDMI being that there is no analog-to-HDMI video conversion. I'm not sure what does this mean. Can I assume that I can still play movies from DVD player with HD video/audio output?

The SR 760 seems to have good speakers. It doesn't have any HDMI connectivity. I was wondering whether I could get HD video if I could directly connect my DVD player to TV. And for the surround sound audio I would connect optical cable from TV to receiver ?
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Thanks for the really quick replies !!!

The ratings at reviews.cnet.com project SR 800 to be one of the best HTIB systems. The one drawback about its HDMI being that there is no analog-to-HDMI video conversion. I'm not sure what does this mean. Can I assume that I can still play movies from DVD player with HD video/audio output?

The SR 760 seems to have good speakers. It doesn't have any HDMI connectivity. I was wondering whether I could get HD video if I could directly connect my DVD player to TV. And for the surround sound audio I would connect optical cable from TV to receiver ?
You can't get "HD video" unless you have a "hi def" player such as Blu-Ray or the late, unlamented HD-DVD. The best you can get with a "standard" DVD player is to get one that does a better job of upconversion than your TV does.

FWIW, a regular DVD played on a regular DVD player doesn't look too bad on a decent TV. :D

You can always run video directly to the TV and use that for video switching, thereby totally bypassing the receiver and use that only for audio switching.
 
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lostsouls

Audiophyte
Thanks for the response . Could someone tell me what does it mean when the manufacturer says there is no analog-to-HDMI video conversion in Onkyo SR800 ??
Is that gonna make a difference in the video quality.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
That just means that any video source you input that isn't HDMI, will not be upconverted and output onto HDMI.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Video connections

Lost,
Yes, you can connect HDMI directly from the source to the TV and use a digital optical or coax cable to send audio to the HTIB. The HDMI switching (and analog format conversion) is just a convenience feature that reduces the number of cables you have to run from the HTIB receiver to the TV.

Unless you are spending $4-500 on a receiver and also have a PS3 or BluRay player, you can't take advantage of HDMI audio processing.

Check out Monoprice.com for inexpensive cables.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
lostsouls, please take a look at the Onkyo 990 THX system. Sometimes, you can find them seriously discounted, and even some CI guys have given this package the props.

I think of Onkyo HTIBs as the "Gateway Drug"! :eek:

(don't ever re-visit us here if you want to keep your money!)... :p
 

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