SVS subwoofer help

[t1mu]

i just bought a brand new Pioneer PDP-5080HD. i saw on the back it has a subwoofer output. i have looked at a lot of reviews of subwoofers online and many people say SVS is probably one of the best.

My living room is 20x10. Which subwoofer do you guys think would be best? I really liked the small SB12 Plus but im not sure if thats big enough for my living room. What do you guys suggest? Thank you.

 

[mazersteven]

What do you guys suggest? Thank you.

E-mail SVS, and ask their opinion. They are a bunch of great guys, and will help you make an educated decision.

 

[Warpdrv]

there are lots of companies out there that offer great subs....

What is your budget and what are you planning on using it for, music or HT or both...

The SB12 is a great little sub, and will pound that small room relentlessly, but it rolls off earlier for HT purposes IMO... but it still provides quite an amazing experience.

SVS also has B-Stock products, and right now there are 3 Maple PB12-Plus subs available for $779 + ship (99.00)
https://svsound.com/store/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=12

I had that same sub in the same size room, and it will scare the hell out of you. Its a good deal larger, but output down to 12hz would be no problem in that small room...

 

[MDS]

My living room is 20x10. Which subwoofer do you guys think would be best? I really liked the small SB12 Plus but im not sure if thats big enough for my living room.

My living room is 16 x 18 x 9 and I bought the SB12-Plus in Rosewood. My room dimensions put it right at the borderline between the Medium and Large room settings on the PEQ (I haven't really messed with it yet though).

SVS said that one SB12 would be fairly good but for real deep bass I'd really need two or the larger PB12. I decided to go with the SB12, figuring maybe later I could add another one if I felt like it (I really only have two possible locations for a sub in the room). So far I think the single SB12 is good enough. If you want to achieve 115 dB (Dolby Reference Level for the LFE) and annoy your neighbors, a larger sub or multiple SB12s might be in order...but I like the smaller size and good looks of the SB12 and it works well enough for me.

 

[t1mu]

yea im thinking about calling SVS. i called them today btu it was after normal hours. and also yea i was thinking about the pb12 plus. its kind of expensive and i dont want anything besides piano gloss black or just black because thats wat everything is in my living room. im a college student so i dont wanna go above like $800 for a subwoofer thats ridiculous.

Warpdrv - I plan on using this for music, basketball games, and movies. my budget i would say is $800. wat do you mean by but it rolls off earlier for HT purposes IMO?

MDS - you have a 16x18 room and you had the SB12 plus and how did it sound? my room is 10x20 so if it sounded good in your room then it should definitely sound good in mine.

if not the SB12 plus, then if i can somehow find the PB12plus in black or gloss black for 800 dollars ill buy it.

 

[Alex at SVS]

Something to be aware of with the SB12-Plus, great little sub though it may be, compromises are always made to get it smaller. In smaller roomer where size is an issue they can work out great. But I would really go with the PB12-NSD or the PCi 20-39 instead though if size isn't a deal breaker (which it doesn't seem to be if you're considering the PB12-Plus) for some real slam/impact especially in the low end above moderate volumes. The PCi may be a better fit in your room though as it has a smaller footprint, lighter, and (because it's lighter) easier to move. Which is basically a roundabout way of saying the PB12-NSD or the PCi 20-39 are both better performers than the SB12-Plus, there only downside being that they're larger subs.

A PB12-Plus in that size of room would likely be overkill for a lot of people, but if you like to turn it up loud or very loud then yes, you may benefit from the added cost. But I honestly don't think you would need it.

 

[Warpdrv]

Very true Alex, but the PB12-Plus allows you to tune the sub down really low in that small size of room and will do it effortlessly, so therefore (if this sub is for HT) where alot of really great special effects shake the house up....


A sealed sub doesn't produce a really strong output below 20hz, and the SB12-Plus has a freq. response +/- 3db 22 to 150hz.....

Here is a chart of the FR for the SB12 showing the output rolling off or dropping a little above 20hz.....

Here is a chart of the PB12-Plus (sorry they don't offer a big one for this sub) but you can see even in the 20hz tune it still has good output below 20hz, but in the 16hz tune(Plugging 1 port) (green line) it goes pretty deep with good output, and although they don't show the 12hz mode (plugging 2 ports) it will still have substantial output in that small of a room....

 

[SmoKnHot]

I am currently in room size 11 x 11 foot with a couple of small openings to other rooms, i will be moving soon to a larger size room
(3.7m x 3.5m x 3m).

I just got the PCi 22-31 cylinder and it rocks this little place but i wouldn't have it any other way.

If i had more money i would have bought the Ultra even in a small place.

Get the one of the Cylinders, small foot print for a tight place and you won't be thinking maybe i should of got the bigger sub.

 

[jamie2112]

I will be buying an SVS sub within the next month. I would ask Mike C. as he is the resident sub overlord.. In fact Mike I am asking what the best SVS is for a 14x 20 room?

 

[AVRat]

For your budget, you may also consider an AV123 MFW-15, HSU VTF3-MK3, or Epik Caliber that'll rock the house!

 

[t1mu]

ok im probably going to buy the PB12 plus because i don't want to regret buying the small sb12 plus and wish i had a better one.

Do you guys know anywhere where i can get the PB12 Plus for $800 in black or gloss black?

since i am going around $800, which is better the PB12plus, VTF-3 MK3 with Turbocharger, or the VTF-3 HO? because the pb12plus in gloss black is around 1000 dollars and plus they dont have them anymore on the website.

 

[Warpdrv]

For your budget, you may also consider an AV123 MFW-15, HSU VTF3-MK3, or Epik Caliber that'll rock the house!

yes also good suggestions, but the wait time on them might be quite long...
and the thread is labeled SVS....

 

[mike c]

not an expert but ...

I will be buying an SVS sub within the next month. I would ask Mike C. as he is the resident sub overlord.. In fact Mike I am asking what the best SVS is for a 14x 20 room?

budget minimum: PB12NSD
my minimum: PB12Plus
recommended: PB13Ultra (there are some 1200+ b stock right now)

what's your budget?
that room is sealed to other rooms right? height of the room?

 

[mike c]

the the OP,
i've tested the SB12 with music in my bedroom ... it hits pretty good for something that small. but then again, if you can get the PB12 Plus, it's just the better subwoofer.

 

[fox]

I also have been in the thinking about it stage. I have emailed SVS and rec'd some good advice. Yes, by all means, contact SVS. They have helped me, no doubt they will do the same for you.

 

[Warpdrv]

The NSD is in your budget, but the PB-Plus offers you more options and is more future proof...

 

[t1mu]

can someone please tell me which is better the PB12plus, VTF-3 MK3 with Turbocharger, or the VTF-3 HO?

 

[mike c]

i believe the PB12Plus is better than the 3.3 (with or without the turbo) <- guesstimate on my part because the 3.3 is a match for the PB12NSD (a lower model than the Plus)

the 3.3 has no need for the turbo add-on

i don't know of any measurement of the HO - but a some people here have the HO. majorloser has two ...

 

[t1mu]

ok so now i need to know which is better the pb12 plus or the vtf-3 ho so i can save some money. thank you mike.

if i get the pb12plus itll be more than 1000 dollars since i want it in black. if the vtf-3 ho is better, than i can save maybe 100 or 200 dollars?

 

[Adam]

ok so now i need to know which is better the pb12 plus or the vtf-3 ho so i can save some money. thank you mike.

if i get the pb12plus itll be more than 1000 dollars since i want it in black. if the vtf-3 ho is better, than i can save maybe 100 or 200 dollars?

I know that you want black, but in case you're open to another finish - SVS has three PB12-Plus models in maple listed at $779 on their b-stock page.

EDIT: They also have a PB13-Ultra in black for $1219 on b-stock. It has some cosmetic flaws, and there's a picture of it on their site.