Audigy

Audigy

Enthusiast
Anyone here a TOOL-ian? In my humble opinion they are probably the "modern" Led Zeppelin. Their use of odd time signatures and their amazing compositions and ankle deep lyrics is just astounding.

If you haven't check out these videos (some are quite long but they are also enjoyable)

EDIT: Oh great, seems I cannot post links till I accumulate 5 or more posts. Convenient.

Anyway search Aenima, Parabola and No Quarter in YouTube.
 
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gwilks98

Audioholic Intern
Anyone here a TOOL-ian? In my humble opinion they are probably the "modern" Led Zeppelin. Their use of odd time signatures and their amazing compositions and ankle deep lyrics is just astounding.

If you haven't check out these videos (some are quite long but they are also enjoyable)

EDIT: Oh great, seems I cannot post links till I accumulate 5 or more posts. Convenient.

Anyway search Aenima, Parabola and No Quarter in YouTube.
I actually considered them to be a modern pink floyd.
 
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FguerraG

Junior Audioholic
Definitely like Tool , but wouldn't think their music will be as transcendental as Led Zeppelin's , anyway you can keep praising them in small posts until you can link the videos ;)

Think you need 5 posts or some like that
 
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jamie2112

Banned
What a sick band and a great bunch of guys.I have had the pleasure of working with them on several tours and they are incredible live as well as on record. Danny Carey is an alien drummer there are few like him out there playing.:cool:
 
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gwilks98

Audioholic Intern
What a sick band and a great bunch of guys.I have had the pleasure of working with them on several tours and they are incredible live as well as on record. Danny Carey is an alien drummer there are few like him out there playing.:cool:

I'm not a musician and I can tell his quality.
 
Shadow_Ferret

Shadow_Ferret

Audioholic Chief
and ankle deep lyrics is just astounding.

You mean like:

Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim.

Yeah. Deep. :rolleyes:

Personally, I don't get the Led Zep or Floyd comparisons. They're all right, but they've done nothing that will be considered "classics" decades from now.
 
Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
Danny Carey is an alien drummer there are few like him out there playing.:cool:
Ditto that - as a drummer myself, this guy is one of my modern heroes. As a band, they are one of my favorites of all time. I'm sorry that some people have too narrow minded of a view like Shadow Ferret's post above, and focus on one tiny snapshot, while missing the big picture of the context. It's a song, not a book, and repetition like that can be a powerful ojbect in conveying a certain emotion or point.

As for comparisons I hesitate - I think they truly stand on their own against the greats that came before them and to compare them to Zeppelin or Pink Floyd only diminishes their authenticity and uniqueness as the band they've come to be.
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
This is by far the number one band I want to see live. I was actually listening to Ænima yesterday while flying in a Blackhawk yesterday.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
You mean like:

Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim.

Yeah. Deep. :rolleyes:

Personally, I don't get the Led Zep or Floyd comparisons. They're all right, but they've done nothing that will be considered "classics" decades from now.
Kinda left out the rest of the lyrics :rolleyes: Sorry, can't post most of it due to language, but the jist of the song is that you'd better learn to swim before the inevitable biblical proportion flood comes to wash away the decadence of mankind. Not deep at all... That's one of my favorites from them.

These guys have already been around for 10+ years and they certainly stand the test of time so far.
 
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Halon451

Halon451

Audioholic Samurai
This is by far the number one band I want to see live. I was actually listening to Ænima yesterday while flying in a Blackhawk yesterday.
I've seen them twice - the first time was right after Undertow came out, but at that point they hadn't yet really developed their live performance, even though it still rocked.

The second time was on the Lateralus tour, Pepsi Arena in Albany, NY. Holy god... what a show. Maynard sang nearly the entire show cloaked in shadows towards the rear of the stage, coming out every once in a while only to display a very disfigured paint job he had done on his face and head. Very bizarre - and the supporting talent (acrobats and other oddities) along with the huge video backdrop (there's a Pink Floyd reference for ya) made the whole thing seem timeless and surreal. Un-freaking-believable is the only thing I can think to describe it.

Another very interesting Keenan project - Puscifer. I've been listening to them a lot lately. A far cry from Tool, but just as weird and hypnotic almost. Very good stuff if any fans of Tool haven't checked it out yet. :)
 
Shadow_Ferret

Shadow_Ferret

Audioholic Chief
These guys have already been around for 10+ years and they certainly stand the test of time so far.
Maybe. All I'm saying is that Led Zep and Floyd transcended their core audience. Zep is highly regarded by many and was named the Top 100 Hard Rock band of all time by I forget who. Floyd's DSoM was, and maybe still is, the longest album in the Billboard Top 100.

Tool is a very good band, but I don't see them ever transcending their genre the way those two bands did.

They might be more like Black Sabbath. Highly regarded by everyone within that genre, but not very well-known or loved outside of it.

And I say this as one of the biggest Sabbath fans out there.

And out of curiousity, which of Tool's albums is considered a "must have?" I might add that to my collection.
 
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gwilks98

Audioholic Intern
Tool is a very good band, but I don't see them ever transcending their genre the way those two bands did.

They might be more like Black Sabbath. Highly regarded by everyone within that genre, but not very well-known or loved outside of it.

And I say this as one of the biggest Sabbath fans out there.

And out of curiousity, which of Tool's albums is considered a "must have?" I might add that to my collection.
I think the reason why they won't be well loved outside of their genre, is they made their own genre. They're not what I would consider metal or rock or alternative. It is for that reason they will never gain mass popularity: art rarely does.

The must have album is definitely Lateralus. 10,000 days is a close second. Aenema and Undertow are closer to alternative metal and less artsy. Depending on who you talk to, you'll usually hear them recommend new tool or old tool. Each album is vastly different from another, so you really can't think of it as all from the same band.
 
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gwilks98

Audioholic Intern
You mean like:

Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. :eek:
actually, there is a reason for that. It ties in with the heavy breathing in the beginning of the song: it's some sort of psychiatric technique, but I can't remember the name. Maynard has a reason for everything he puts into his songs. (Though sometimes, he's just plain crazy. He's pretty out there.)
 
Audigy

Audigy

Enthusiast
You mean like:

Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim. Learning to swim.

Yeah. Deep. :rolleyes:

Personally, I don't get the Led Zep or Floyd comparisons. They're all right, but they've done nothing that will be considered "classics" decades from now.
Maybe you got the wrong lyrics. Go here

http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Tool/Aenima.html

It has the rest of the lyrics and 79.48717948717948717948717948718 less "Learn to Swims"

I'll give you a second chance why don't you look at the entire song as a whole now that you have the "complete" lyrics and see if they're more than just "Learn to Swim", perhaps there is a hidden meaning behind the "Learn to Swim", one would expect so from a band acclaimed for its complexity and sophistication. Maybe it unravels the problems with our society, how we have become incredibly superficial and plastic.

And I never said they were on par with Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. It was merely a comparison of musical styles and progressive themes.

And I'd say that for a 3 time Grammy Winning Band with a Top 100 guitarist and a Top 50 Drummer and one of the best Frontman in recent years they are damned well alright and possibly legendary if they sought more publicity, which they obviously shy from to some extent.
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
I'd say Ænima is Tool's best album. It is a must have of their collection!
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I wouldn't call them one of the best bands of all time either, but I do love them and they are definitely for the fact that they don't conform to any particular classification. There is some variety and originality going on there that not a lot of bands achieve. Even their own albums are not similar to each other; there is a progression and change, yet you can still tell it is them without a doubt.
 
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gwilks98

Audioholic Intern
Maybe you got the wrong lyrics. Go here

http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Tool/Aenima.html

I'll give you a second chance why don't you look at the entire song as a whole now that you have the "complete" lyrics and see if they're more than just "Learn to Swim", perhaps there is a hidden meaning behind the "Learn to Swim", one would expect so from a band acclaimed for its complexity and sophistication.
It's borrowed from a stand up from comedian bill hicks. Bill was talking about his distaste for LA phoneys, and said that he hoped an earthquake would sink the whole state. He later joked he was going to sell Arizona beachfront property, and all the phonies he hated better "learn to swim."

You can hear some of Bill Hicks in Third Eye, and there's a depiction of him on the inside cover. The band was big into him before he died of some sort of cancer.
 
Audigy

Audigy

Enthusiast
It's borrowed from a stand up from comedian bill hicks. Bill was talking about his distaste for LA phoneys, and said that he hoped an earthquake would sink the whole state. He later joked he was going to sell Arizona beachfront property, and all the phonies he hated better "learn to swim."

You can hear some of Bill Hicks in Third Eye, and there's a depiction of him on the inside cover. The band was big into him before he died of some sort of cancer.
Yea I'm a big fan of Hicks too, thats why they had the Arizone Bay reference.

He was a great comedian, one of the greatest advocates of free speech. However I think Tool used it in a much broader sense to include people beside Los Angelers.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
I love Tool. I think they are one of the best bands to come out in the 1990s era but I can't compare them to LedZep or Pink Floyd. They have their own unique sound which I'm really drawn too. I think they had an influence in music as I find "A Perfect Circle" to sound very similar to them
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
When people compare bands, usually nothing good happens. Someone compared Tool to The Mars Volta. There is no comparing bands, there is no accurate way to judge a band. It's all preference. Shadow Parrot doesn't like them, whoop dee doo. Make fun of his tie.

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