DVD hard drive backup

[mudrummer99]

Does anyone know of a DVD ripping program that is extremely reliable (as close to 100% as possible) I'm looking to be able to hook up an external harddrive to my soon to be PS3 (now that I have learned my largest fear is nothing more than BS). I would like something that will do a great quality rip. Size/compression won't be an issue since drives are cheap. And these are personal use back ups from my own collection, I don't even have netflix or rent movies nearly ever. If anyone could help me out here, i would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for the help.

Mike

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I just use WMP and rip WAV files, transfer to my 500GB hard drive, slap it onto the PS3 and never get off the couch.

 

[Matt34]

I use Clone DVD and Any DVD. Very easy to use and gives you the option to take out the extras(previews and menus) to save on space.

 

[scottyg]

Dvd shrink 3.2 is freeware and I have been using it for over two years without any problems with a direct full backup of a movie...no compression

 

[mudrummer99]

thanks everyone for the replies. I'll try a couple of these out and see what I think.

Mike

 

[BMXTRIX]

www.slysoft.com - As mentioned above... These two programs are excellent and do exactly what you need. CloneDVD mobile is great for recompressing a DVD to a more portable size, in a format that is iPod... or in my case, Archos, ready.

Great stuff - and they give you a 30 day trial for free.

 

[mudrummer99]

Could anyone tell me about much much space each movie will take up ripped in an uncompressed form and what program I can use to watch these on my computer? The first question is so I can gauge about what size external HD I should be when I get my PS3 and the second is so I don't install a bunch of random programs that suck on my computer. Also, does anyone know if the PS3 allows you to use usb hubs?

Thanks again

Mike

 

[jonnythan]

First of all, it's illegal to rip a DVD. There's a reason you can't go to the store and buy a DVD ripping program.

Second of all, most movies will take between 4.5 and 8 GB of space.

 

[mudrummer99]

First of all, it's illegal to rip a DVD. There's a reason you can't go to the store and buy a DVD ripping program.

Second of all, most movies will take between 4.5 and 8 GB of space.

Yeah, I find it amusing that it is "illegal" to make a personal use backup onto a hard drive but not onto another dvd (or maybe it is, and that's just as pointless as well). I don't rent dvds or have netflix, I just want the ability to not scratch my discs, and more importantly, not have to get up to change movies. Thanks for the info about size of files, I appreciate it.

Mike

 

[jonnythan]

No, it's illegal to make a "backup" onto another DVD as well.

The illegal part is breaking the CSS copy protection, a necessary step to copy a DVD onto any medium.

It's an obscene law, yes. That's why I try to make sure people are aware of it - not to condemn them for engaging in illegal activities, but to keep them aware that things that should be basic property rights are so freakishly limited by our government at the behest of large corporations.

 

[mudrummer99]

No, it's illegal to make a "backup" onto another DVD as well.

The illegal part is breaking the CSS copy protection, a necessary step to copy a DVD onto any medium.

It's an obscene law, yes. That's why I try to make sure people are aware of it - not to condemn them for engaging in illegal activities, but to keep them aware that things that should be basic property rights are so freakishly limited by our government at the behest of large corporations.

*cough* DRM *cough* lame...

 

[scottyg]

as far as I am concerned we are bled dry for every red cent when we can be so I will take every advantage I can to preserve and build a PERSONAL media library. As long as you are not selling it there won't be a problem. I bought over 600 new dvds and will not take this route with bluray as for there are hd ripping programs,1tb hard drives, and a video store on my corner....Do you follow me ? I bet on HD DVD and lost which is fine with a minimal investment (player and movies around $500) but I am sure they are titles I won't see on Blu for a while. I think most bluray movies are around 25gb total which means you can fit a decent amount on a 1tb drive. The only reason I won't start buying Bluray discs right away is becasue I have a feeling that they will leave an awesome audio track off of a disc so they can re-release it.....I want to say 3 different copies of Gladiator were released on dvd...I hope we can avoid this with BLURAY !!

 

[BMXTRIX]

First of all, it's illegal to rip a DVD. There's a reason you can't go to the store and buy a DVD ripping program.

Second of all, most movies will take between 4.5 and 8 GB of space.

Actually, DVD ripping programs are available at stores without issue. There is nothing illegal about ripping or copying DVDs.

The illegal, and the very questionably illegal, portion of this is the breaking of copyright protection. But, if we want to have a full discussion of DVD copying then we will assume that we are also going to call into account fair use laws which the DMCA is in direct conflict with.

But, at the end of the day, it is not the copying itself which is illegal, but the breaking of DVD encryption for commercial discs which may be construed as illegal.

Yet, under fair use, I am unaware of any private individuals who have been sued for legally backing up movies they own. As well, Kaleidescape won their court battle to allow DVD ripping to their video servers.

I don't think anyone should promote renting and ripping philosophies, but I sure as heck am not going to pay for a movie I own 3 times over because my 3 year old wants to watch it in the car, instead of at home on the BD player.

 

[mouettus]

DVD Decrypter (freeware, discontinued) coupled with AnyDVD for tougher disks. I make ISO copies of those files (with DVD Decrypter directly) and Use Daemon Tools to mount the image and listen to the movie. Then I don't have hundreds of files laying around in my hard drive.

Approx. 8.5gb for a single file.

Use DVD Shrink 3.2 (latest version) to make copies. There is an option for DVD-R or DVD9. When I remove all the unwanted audio and extras, I usually get a good compression rate and don't even notice the difference with the original version.

 

[jonnythan]

Actually, DVD ripping programs are available at stores without issue.

Those programs are not capable of ripping commercial DVDs containing movies.

There is nothing illegal about ripping or copying DVDs.

The illegal, and the very questionably illegal, portion of this is the breaking of copyright protection.

I said exactly this in post 10:
"The illegal part is breaking the CSS copy protection, a necessary step to copy a DVD onto any medium."

But, if we want to have a full discussion of DVD copying then we will assume that we are also going to call into account fair use laws which the DMCA is in direct conflict with.

There are no "fair use laws" per se. There are "fair use" exceptions to copyright law, but the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause has nothing to do with copyright law.

There is no conflict.

As well, Kaleidescape won their court battle to allow DVD ripping to their video servers.

Kaleidescape's products are licensed by the DVD CCA - the products legally have the right to use the CSS decryption keys because they paid for them. Their products do not violate the DMCA because Kaleidescape's products are licensed for decrypting DVDs.

I don't think anyone should promote renting and ripping philosophies, but I sure as heck am not going to pay for a movie I own 3 times over because my 3 year old wants to watch it in the car, instead of at home on the BD player.

But, legally, you have to.

 

[BMXTRIX]

Those programs are not capable of ripping commercial DVDs containing movies.

Not arguing that, but the discussion isn't illegal if people are simply discussing DVD backup as some may think.

I said exactly this in post 10:
"The illegal part is breaking the CSS copy protection, a necessary step to copy a DVD onto any medium."

A necessary step if the DVD has copy protection and you intend to break it.

There are no "fair use laws" per se. There are "fair use" exceptions to copyright law, but the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause has nothing to do with copyright law.

There is no conflict.

That's absurd. Of course there is conflict when one law - or exception to a law, allows for personal backup as tried in court cases, yet another law circumvents that law. It seems the very definition of conflict.

Kaleidescape's products are licensed by the DVD CCA - the products legally have the right to use the CSS decryption keys because they paid for them. Their products do not violate the DMCA because Kaleidescape's products are licensed for decrypting DVDs.

Correct, yet after legally obtaining permission, the industry went after them anyway. This is a very good indicator that the DMCA, which is backed by the MPAA and RIAA are not about protecting anything more than big brother and not at all the consumer.

But, legally, you have to.

If I use a 1080p projector, and a DVD camcorder I am not... In fact, there are many ways to do this without breaking CSS to backup discs I own. Yet it is still CSS decrypters which are easily the most effective way to make personal copies of discs you own... and I am still unsure of any single lawsuit that has arisen due to this.

Slysoft sure as heck was very public about breaking BD+ on a couple of discs and AACS on all discs. It is hardly the piraters which seem to be targetted by this, and I'm not sure how many private individuals it has hit in regards to online distribution via Torrents. The most obviously hit are those who just want to ensure that when they buy one disc, they aren't jerked around because they have a 3 year old in their home.

I'm also not sure there has been a single reported court case regarding those who choose to act under their right of Fair Use for a personal backup yet are in violation of the DMCA.

 

[jonnythan]

That's absurd. Of course there is conflict when one law - or exception to a law, allows for personal backup as tried in court cases, yet another law circumvents that law. It seems the very definition of conflict.

"Fair use" is an exception to the law that prevents you from creating a copy of a copyrighted work. The DMCA's anti-circumvention clause prevents you from breaking an effective content protection system. They're related, but not identical and there is no conflict. Ask Lawrence Lessig if you don't believe me.

Correct, yet after legally obtaining permission, the industry went after them anyway. This is a very good indicator that the DMCA, which is backed by the MPAA and RIAA are not about protecting anything more than big brother and not at all the consumer.

I agree with this.