splitting component

[landonspop]

I watch tv at night and weekends through my surround sound. My wife likes to watch tv during the day, while the kid is taking nap with regular tv speakers because she says the surround is too much even on low volume. I have even had her try the night mode. I suggested headphones but she says she moves around to much, especially during commercials. My cable box only has one component output.

I was thinking about doing this:

Split the component cables from back of cbl box with monster splitter
send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound, then vid to tv w/ (all component cbls)
send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio

Should this cause a noticeable video loss?

 

[Johnd]

I watch tv at night and weekends through my surround sound. My wife likes to watch tv during the day, while the kid is taking nap with regular tv speakers because she says the surround is too much even on low volume. I have even had her try the night mode. I suggested headphones but she says she moves around to much, especially during commercials. My cable box only has one component output.

I was thinking about doing this:

Split the component cables from back of cbl box with monster splitter
send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound, then vid to tv w/ (all component cbls)
send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio

Should this cause a noticeable video loss?

I'm confused. Component is for video only. How do you get sound out of the component cabling?

 

[landonspop]

I'm confused. Component is for video only. How do you get sound out of the component cabling?

Which part are you confused with?

I said I would send sound using coaxial to a/v rec and use rca aud outputs for tv

"send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound"
equals:send one side of split component for vid and coaxial cbl for aud

"send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio"
equals: send other component cbls to tv with rca (red white) for the audio

I have the sound figured out.
My question was and still is, will I see a picture loss?

 

[Johnd]

Which part are you confused with?

I said I would send sound using coaxial to a/v rec and use rca aud outputs for tv

"send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound"
equals:send one side of split component for vid and coaxial cbl for aud

"send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio"
equals: send other component cbls to tv with rca (red white) for the audio

I have the sound figured out.
My question was and still is, will I see a picture loss?

Generally, when one refers to component [cabling], they are referring to video. My understanding is that a component output is for video only. Thus, the confusion is from somehow deriving an audio signal from a purely video signal. That's all.

To answer your question directly, if the video remains shielded with coaxial cable (no interference injected) over the entire path, I don't see how there could be signal degradation. Cheers.

 

[landonspop]

Generally, when one refers to component [cabling], they are referring to video. My understanding is that a component output is for video only. Thus, the confusion is from somehow deriving an audio signal from a purely video signal. That's all. Cheers.

I was referring the use of component cbls for video only, I never said I was trying to derive audio from the component cbls! (?)

Maybe I should have just left the audio part out of the post.

 

[Johnd]

I was referring the use of component cbls for video only, I never said I was trying to derive audio from the component cbls! (?)

Maybe I should have just left the audio out of the equation.

Really?

Reading your op:

(1) Split the component cables from back of cbl box with monster splitter
(1a) send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound, then vid to tv w/ (all component cbls)
(1b) send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio

Reading your post one discerns the following:

You split 1 into 1a and 1b. How do you not understand the confusion? I think I now understand what you were attempting to write...you did not mean to meld 1 with 1a and 1b. I'm not trying to be trite or the grammar/composition police, but...

Anyhow, I think I now understand your question, and I have given my resposnse. Cheers.

 

[jcPanny]

Video connections

Your TV should have more than 1 video input so I would recommend the following:
1. Connect component video and analog audio directly from the cable/sat box to the TV, no splitters required.
2. Connect digital optical or coax from the cable/sat box to the receiver (for digital audio).

You can watch TV without turning on the receiver.
You can watch TV with the receiver and speakers by putting the TV speakers on mute.
You will have to use the TV (or universal) remote when switching from TV to DVD and other sources that are connected through the receiver to a different input on the TV.

 

[markw]

So, you want to send the sound to both the TV and the receiver?

I watch tv at night and weekends through my surround sound. My wife likes to watch tv during the day, while the kid is taking nap with regular tv speakers because she says the surround is too much even on low volume. I have even had her try the night mode. I suggested headphones but she says she moves around to much, especially during commercials. My cable box only has one component output.

I was thinking about doing this:

Split the component cables from back of cbl box with monster splitter
send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound, then vid to tv w/ (all component cbls)
send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio

Should this cause a noticeable video loss?

If so, the cable box most likely has a pair of red/white RCA jacks, which is an analog audio output. You should be able to connect them to the corrosponding red/white analog audio input on the TV and be able to use it's internal speakers. Simplty turn the TV speakers all the way down when you don't want to use them.

Your digital connection to the receiver will be unaffected.

FWIW, your post was very confusing. This has nothing to do with the component video cables. This was pure audio. When you become a little more familiar with this stuff, you'll see what we mean.

 

[landonspop]

If so, the cable box most likely has a pair of red/white RCA jacks, which is an analog audio output. You should be able to connect them to the corrosponding red/white analog audio input on the TV and be able to use it's internal speakers. Simplty turn the TV speakers all the way down when you don't want to use them.

Your digital connection to the receiver will be unaffected.

FWIW, your post was very confusing. This has nothing to do with the component video cables. This was pure audio. When you become a little more familiar with this stuff, you'll see what we mean.

Maybe I could have said it easier. I never had a problem w/ audio.

If you split something there becomes two. I clearly said split component output from cable box. Sending one side (component) to rec and one to tv.

I did mention using coaxial sound with one split which most of you should know what coaxial sound is. If not, it is the digital output named coaxial on my cable box which is marked with a yellow rca plug. Plus, I mentioned using rca sound outputs on the other side of the split (which I thought most of you would know as the red and white outputs.)

I sent this same question (copy and pasted) to my salesman at a local high line store to see if he could make sense of it and he had no problem.



Splitting component was my topic. The only sentence, with a question mark (?), in my original post, asked if splitting this would degrade the picture.

Sorry, I just didn't want to type a book.

 

[landonspop]

Really?

Reading your op:

(1) Split the component cables from back of cbl box with monster splitter
(1a) send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound, then vid to tv w/ (all component cbls)
(1b) send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio

Reading your post one discerns the following:

You split 1 into 1a and 1b. How do you not understand the confusion? I think I now understand what you were attempting to write...you did not mean to meld 1 with 1a and 1b. I'm not trying to be trite or the grammar/composition police, but...

Anyhow, I think I now understand your question, and I have given my resposnse. Cheers.

(1) Split the component cables from back of cbl box with monster splitter
correct

(1a) send one side to rec w/ coaxial sound, then vid to tv w/ (all component cbls)
correct, notice w/ coaxial sound

(1b) send one side to tv (vid 1) using rca sound outputs for the audio
correct again, notice rca sound outputs for audio (sound)

one side refers to split of component output
coaxial sound refers to yellow digital audio output on my unit
rca sound outputs refer to rca (white and red) analog audio outputs
vid to tv (from receiver) with all (only) component cables = I wasn't sending sound from receiver to tv, just video

 

[AverageJoe]

...I sent this same question (copy and pasted) to my salesman at a local high line store to see if he could make sense of it and he had no problem...

You should congratulate him on his intuition and clairvoyance.

 

[JKL1960]

I think I get it. He's using component video switching on his receiver so when his wife doesn't use the receiver she gets no picture.

I wouldn't split it. If your TV has two component inputs I would still run one to the amp where it will switch your other sources and run the other straight to the cable box. Then you would just use this input source for TV and the other for whatever your receiver is sending.

Splitting with Y adapters would also be fine and I wouldn't expect any signal loss or degradation because you will only be feeding one or the other not driving two displays.

Right? Did I catch on?

 

[landonspop]

Your TV should have more than 1 video input so I would recommend the following:
1. Connect component video and analog audio directly from the cable/sat box to the TV, no splitters required.
2. Connect digital optical or coax from the cable/sat box to the receiver (for digital audio).

You can watch TV without turning on the receiver.
You can watch TV with the receiver and speakers by putting the TV speakers on mute.
You will have to use the TV (or universal) remote when switching from TV to DVD and other sources that are connected through the receiver to a different input on the TV.

Great answer, but I only have one 1080 input on tv. So I need to send video from cable box to rec along with video signal from bludvd, and sp3. I will then use the rec's component out to the only input on tv marked for 1080.

If I split. I can send the other side of split to the 480p input on tv for my wife with the analog rca (red & white) for sound.

My salesman, told me, to just send the analog audio (red & white) cable outputs to the tv analog (red white) inputs matching (same input name) as the 1080 video input from rec.

This works, but the rec has to be on and set to cable, just for the pic to go through it. I was trying to avoid this, so my wife and especially her mother (babysitter) could watch tv, with just the cable box and tv on which my mother in law can operate easily.

 

[landonspop]

I think I get it. He's using component video switching on his receiver so when his wife doesn't use the receiver she gets no picture.

I wouldn't split it. If your TV has two component inputs I would still run one to the amp where it will switch your other sources and run the
other straight to the cable box. Then you would just use this input source for TV and the other for whatever your receiver is sending.

Splitting with Y adapters would also be fine and I wouldn't expect any signal loss or degradation because you will only be feeding one or the other not driving two displays.

Right? Did I catch on?

First sentence = correct.

Second sentence = This was my proposal, except I have to split because there is only one component output on cable box.
So, if I don't split the vid signal, how do I send it to rec and tv.

I did mean split with y adapter, as I knew no other way to split. I wanted to split the cable box component out to the tv and the receiver independently, as long as this would not degrade my picture.

Thanks

 

[pzaur]

What cable box and TV do you have? This will help a great deal.

You could just use a coaxial cable with F-type connectors to run from your cable box to the TV and this would take care of the audio and video.

A solution which may be cheaper than your Monster Splitter for the video portion is to buy three of these or these from your local Radioshack. They would plug directly into your cable box and you'd attach the component cables to them.

-pat

 

[markw]

I sent this same question (copy and pasted) to my salesman at a local high line store to see if he could make sense of it and he had no problem.

Then perhaps he can offer a solution. Personally, I think you're making this more difficult than it needs to be.

My pose seems to echo whatthe rep said but apparantly you don't want the receiver in the chain atall. Theer's something to be said for using the TV as a video switch.

FWIW, a yellow RCA jack is usually a composite video output which has sufficent resolution for a SD TV signal. Coaxial digital is usually orange.

You might want to think about that for a while and see how this fits into your plans.

In either case, you'll be using the TV as a switch.

 

[pzaur]

Cheapest option yet and in stock at Monoprice.com.
For splitting video only through component.

-pat

 

[landonspop]

What cable box and TV do you have? This will help a great deal.

You could just use a coaxial cable with F-type connectors to run from your cable box to the TV and this would take care of the audio and video.

A solution which may be cheaper than your Monster Splitter for the video portion is to buy three of these or these from your local Radioshack. They would plug directly into your cable box and you'd attach the component cables to them.-pat

I all ready have 3 y adapters (1 male to 2 female), that I am not using, but those first things from Radio Shack was a great idea.

It's not so much the cable box itself, but Time Warner fixes it to where only the hdmi and the component outputs work for video. I do not have hdmi inputs on my tv so I am stuck w/ component outputs. They only want people w/ hdtv's to have these receivers is my best guess. Plus you can't record from these signals also.

My tv, Mitsubishi rp has 2 component 480i/480p and 1 component input marked 480i/480p/1080i. It has s and analog and coax inputs also, but these should not matter.

Thanks

 

[TLS Guy]

First sentence = correct.

Second sentence = This was my proposal, except I have to split because there is only one component output on cable box.
So, if I don't split the vid signal, how do I send it to rec and tv.

I did mean split with y adapter, as I knew no other way to split. I wanted to split the cable box component out to the tv and the receiver independently, as long as this would not degrade my picture.

Thanks

You can't split video with a Y connector, it will upset the impedance. You can use standard video splitters with F-connectors and use adapters.

 

[pzaur]

You can't split video with a Y connector, it will upset the impedance. You can use standard video splitters with F-connectors and use adapters.

You could always try the y-adaptors and see if you notice any real problems with the picture...I don't think there is anyway to cause damage to any of the equipment trying this.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, anyone.

-pat